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MoCo_Vol said:
Boswell got in long enough to get a taste of how unready he is, probably a RS candidate if we stay healthy. Definitely seems to have some natural talent though.

Dubar I think was more about the lineup Indiana played with. They played Ballo (7’), Reneau (6’9”), Mgbako (6’9”) all 30+ minutes. Their biggest bench player by minutes was Goode (6’7”). So really Dubar at 6’5” (on a good day) at the 4 spot wasn’t an option, even at the 3 he was too small and not athletic enough to take advantage of any matchup.

Basically Indiana went 3 bigs and dared us to hit deep shots, we didn’t & they won.

The most encouraging thing from that matchup to me is we won the rebound battle 39 to 38, and our bigs were blocking shots. 8 to 3. But we saw more Cade than Dubar because of the matchups, and he played well.
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I think we're getting a little too liberal with the Dubar height shaming. He was listed at 6-8 by Hofstra. Now, I think we all know that was embellished. Tennessee (under Barnes) has a history of accurately listing player heights, and lists him at 6-6. I tend to believe that is his actual height.

None of this changes your point. Just thought it worth mentioning in context.
 
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cncchris33 said:
I think we're getting a little too liberal with the Dubar height shaming. He was listed at 6-8 by Hofstra. Now, I think we all know that was embellished. Tennessee (under Barnes) has a history of accurately listing player heights, and lists him at 6-6. I tend to believe that is his actual height.

None of this changes your point. Just thought it worth mentioning in context.
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I know what his listed height is, but seeing him in game beside Mashack, Lanier & Gainey. I think he’s closer to 6’5” not a knock really, just he is undersized to play the 4 when a team goes that big with 3 forwards.

We’ll see a lot more of his game with these early season matchups.
 
#21,629
#21,629
I will say though...I think our rotation will be more like this going forward until someone steps up

Starters:
ZZ
Gainey OR Lanier
Mashack
Igor
Felix

Gainey OR Lanier (whoever isn't starting) will get the bulk of the bench minutes
JP (when healthy) will be the next main bench player getting minutes
Cade/Dubar will likely round out the 8/9 man rotation

Carr is the wildcard on the roster...his size and wingspan would allow him to play in a lot of different position and he's supposed to be a great shooter as well
Bishop may earn trust as the season progresses, but I also could see him as a RS candidate...I don't think that'll be the case with just 11 on scholarship AND the way the portal works now. Hopefully Barnes lets him play minutes early and get through some of his growing pains could be needed this year and will absolutely need him next year with 6 seniors
 
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OrangeInKy said:
That goob Philly is on the radio and overreacting to an exhibition loss. What a simpleton.
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Stoked said:
That’s one of the most miserable humans out there lol. He’s a huge Barnes and Heupel hater. Dude calls every show in town and spews his constant negativity.

Oh and he sounds like Hank Hill 😂
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Predicting Tennessee will miss the NCAAT based on that game yesterday, as caller Phil did, is the very definition of overreaction (and stupidity, flaky, etc). He's a boob. Probably posts on here, too. You can likely find him in a game thread.
 
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While we are on talk radio callers and the legend of Cameron Carr, there is another jewel that calls Basilio's show, "Joshie Boy" (as Tony calls him).

In an effort to refute co-host "Beano" Jeff Henderson's assessment that Cameron Carr is overrated, Joshie Boy claims with absolute conviction that Cameron Carr "hit several big shots in the NCAAT, last year". In reality, Cameron Carr played 5 minutes across 2 appearances, and hit 1 shot in the NCAAT (albeit a big shot against Creighton).

This feels like a microcosm of how a lot of our fans view Carr, though. Kind of like the backup QB on a football team whose legend has largely outgrown any actual production.
 
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cncchris33 said:
While we are on talk radio callers and the legend of Cameron Carr, there is another jewel that calls Basilio's show, "Joshie Boy" (as Tony calls him).

In an effort to refute co-host "Beano" Jeff Henderson's assessment that Cameron Carr is overrated, Joshie Boy claims with absolute conviction that Cameron Carr "hit several big shots in the NCAAT, last year". In reality, Cameron Carr played 5 minutes across 2 appearances, and hit 1 shot in the NCAAT (albeit a big shot against Creighton).

This feels like a microcosm of how a lot of our fans view Carr, though. Kind of like the backup QB on a football team whose legend has largely outgrown any actual production.
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They would also be the first to talk crap about us getting 90 hung on us because he got cooked defensively.
 
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cncchris33 said:
While we are on talk radio callers and the legend of Cameron Carr, there is another jewel that calls Basilio's show, "Joshie Boy" (as Tony calls him).

In an effort to refute co-host "Beano" Jeff Henderson's assessment that Cameron Carr is overrated, Joshie Boy claims with absolute conviction that Cameron Carr "hit several big shots in the NCAAT, last year". In reality, Cameron Carr played 5 minutes across 2 appearances, and hit 1 shot in the NCAAT (albeit a big shot against Creighton).

This feels like a microcosm of how a lot of our fans view Carr, though. Kind of like the backup QB on a football team whose legend has largely outgrown any actual production.
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The same Joshua Boy who midway through last NFL season said that Taylor Swift had ruined Kelce’s career and he was having his worst season statistically. A simple brief google session would have helped him tremendously. He’s gonna be shocked when he finds out stats are available on the internet.
 
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cncchris33 said:
While we are on talk radio callers and the legend of Cameron Carr, there is another jewel that calls Basilio's show, "Joshie Boy" (as Tony calls him).

In an effort to refute co-host "Beano" Jeff Henderson's assessment that Cameron Carr is overrated, Joshie Boy claims with absolute conviction that Cameron Carr "hit several big shots in the NCAAT, last year". In reality, Cameron Carr played 5 minutes across 2 appearances, and hit 1 shot in the NCAAT (albeit a big shot against Creighton).

This feels like a microcosm of how a lot of our fans view Carr, though. Kind of like the backup QB on a football team whose legend has largely outgrown any actual production.
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He DIDN'T MISS A SHOT against the Bluejays!!!

I like Carr a lot, but I'm not sure just yet where he'll fit in for minutes. I don't think he offers the same sort of things that Gainey or Lanier offer and he's not got the defensive chops or experience that Mashack has...so where do you find minutes when we've got 5 options to play the 4/5 spot already (even when we go small ball) clearly ahead of him.

Barnes will rotate his bigs a lot more than his guards typically...and he's returning 3 guards that all played 18 or more minutes a game and saw action in all 36 games. Then adding Lanier who will be hard to keep off the court as he's likely going to be the featured offensive threat for the team this year.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
A win would have been great, but losing really has zero downside. And a win would have raised expectations well above the current reality.
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Only downside is seeing the negative nancies, which is weird seeing as I’m the usual suspect

Got to see what we needed to work on, more important
 
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I’ve been a big Carr fan mainly due to explosiveness he’s shown from time to time. I’m disappointed to hear of any lack of buyin defensively because he should have known CRB is gonna demand it. But like Snoop said about DK(and NO I’m not saying CC is or even could be a DK type of scorer), but you gotta recognize game when it’s rt in your face. And when CC has gotten opportunities minutes wise, he scores pts and makes plays. Even tho he and Dubar both seem like question marks rt now, my terrible take is I think he is a gamer, when given the opportunity and will be a huge part of this teams success. Jmo
 
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Lefteye said:
I’ve been a big Carr fan mainly due to explosiveness he’s shown from time to time. I’m disappointed to hear of any lack of buyin defensively because he should have known CRB is gonna demand it. But like Snoop said about DK(and NO I’m not saying CC is or even could be a DK type of scorer), but you gotta recognize game when it’s rt in your face. And when CC has gotten opportunities minutes wise, he scores pts and makes plays. Even tho he and Dubar both seem like question marks rt now, my terrible take is I think he is a gamer, when given the opportunity and will be a huge part of this teams success. Jmo
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Does he, though? He's played in 14 career games, and only double digit minutes in 2 of them. He only hit more than 1 shot in 1 of those games. 23 career points on 29.6% shooting.

So far, it just seems like the idea of Cam Carr has far more value than the play of Cam Carr.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Does he, though? He's played in 14 career games, and only double digit minutes in 2 of them. He only hit more than 1 shot in 1 of those games. 23 career points on 29.6% shooting.

So far, it just seems like the idea of Cam Carr has far more value than the play of Cam Carr.
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Bless you for trying to keep this forum in check.
 
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Lefteye said:
I’ve been a big Carr fan mainly due to explosiveness he’s shown from time to time. I’m disappointed to hear of any lack of buyin defensively because he should have known CRB is gonna demand it. But like Snoop said about DK(and NO I’m not saying CC is or even could be a DK type of scorer), but you gotta recognize game when it’s rt in your face. And when CC has gotten opportunities minutes wise, he scores pts and makes plays. Even tho he and Dubar both seem like question marks rt now, my terrible take is I think he is a gamer, when given the opportunity and will be a huge part of this teams success. Jmo
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He statistically doesn’t though…shooting under 30% FG & just 27.8% from deep. He hasn’t shown us any game. He’s been willing to defend and gotten some minutes because of that.
 
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