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Chaz-Vol said:
I thought most of his 3s were either in rhythm or he was open. The midrange 2s weren't great looks. Number one thing I hope he doesn't lose though is confidence and just keeps shooting. The hot potato offense with people being afraid to shoot with prior Barnes players is hardest to watch.
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I hope he’s not Victor Bailey 2.0. I have a gut feeling that he’s not. I almost want him to not go off versus the upcoming buy games. Just be efficient with a lot fewer shots. Confidence and consistency is what’s needed from Chaz.
 
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THEONLYTENISEE said:
Who’s the backup PG? How many minutes do you see ZZ averaging this year?
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I believe Gainey will get the bulk of the backup PG minutes and wouldn’t be surprised if ZZ averages close to 35.Obviously he’s our most valuable player and will be on the floor most of the time unless it’s a blowout win imo.
 
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I am just trying to find 80 points per game average. That will win us 80% of our games with a normal Barnes defense - which would be a decent season depending on the tourney. Somebody has to be a pleasant surprise. I am afraid Phillips and Estrella are going to have trouble breaking out of the 4 points, 2 rebounds mode. Hope I am wrong about that. At some point Carr has to be more than "potential". If Ziegler has to be the scorer, he places too much pressure on himself and will force bad shots. Gainey will be slightly improved. I expect nothing from Boswell. Dubar has to look a lot better than he did Sunday. Mashack is gonna give us more, but being able to shoot the 3 and actually doing it are two different mindsets. Barnes can sometimes scare the offense out of a player. (I think that happened to Vescovi a little bit - when he was no longer allowed to play loose) so we have Igor, Okpara, and Lanier. Where do we find the points?
 
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garry123 said:
I am just trying to find 80 points per game average. That will win us 80% of our games with a normal Barnes defense - which would be a decent season depending on the tourney. Somebody has to be a pleasant surprise. I am afraid Phillips and Estrella are going to have trouble breaking out of the 4 points, 2 rebounds mode. Hope I am wrong about that. At some point Carr has to be more than "potential". If Ziegler has to be the scorer, he places too much pressure on himself and will force bad shots. Gainey will be slightly improved. I expect nothing from Boswell. Dubar has to look a lot better than he did Sunday. Mashack is gonna give us more, but being able to shoot the 3 and actually doing it are two different mindsets. Barnes can sometimes scare the offense out of a player. (I think that happened to Vescovi a little bit - when he was no longer allowed to play loose) so we have Igor, Okpara, and Lanier. Where do we find the points?
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ZZ: 12 avg
Lanier: 16 avg
Mashack: 7 avg
Igor: 13 avg
Felix: 10 avg
JG: 8 avg
JP: 5 avg
CC: 4 avg
DStone: 3 avg
Cade: 2 avg

That's 80, don't think any of those numbers are crazy. Assumes none of JP, CC, Stone, or Cade break out in any way.
 
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VolsNetClippers2025 said:
ZZ: 12 avg
Lanier: 16 avg
Mashack: 7 avg
Igor: 13 avg
Felix: 10 avg
JG: 8 avg
JP: 5 avg
CC: 4 avg
DStone: 3 avg
Cade: 2 avg

That's 80, don't think any of those numbers are crazy. Assumes none of JP, CC, Stone, or Cade break out in any way.
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agree w most of those estimates. But I’d take 3-4 from Lanier and give them to Cade. Jmo
 
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VolsNetClippers2025 said:
ZZ: 12 avg
Lanier: 16 avg
Mashack: 7 avg
Igor: 13 avg
Felix: 10 avg
JG: 8 avg
JP: 5 avg
CC: 4 avg
DStone: 3 avg
Cade: 2 avg

That's 80, don't think any of those numbers are crazy. Assumes none of JP, CC, Stone, or Cade break out in any way.
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I think in SEC and tournament games this rotation is shortened.
 
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garry123 said:
I am just trying to find 80 points per game average. That will win us 80% of our games with a normal Barnes defense - which would be a decent season depending on the tourney. Somebody has to be a pleasant surprise. I am afraid Phillips and Estrella are going to have trouble breaking out of the 4 points, 2 rebounds mode. Hope I am wrong about that. At some point Carr has to be more than "potential". If Ziegler has to be the scorer, he places too much pressure on himself and will force bad shots. Gainey will be slightly improved. I expect nothing from Boswell. Dubar has to look a lot better than he did Sunday. Mashack is gonna give us more, but being able to shoot the 3 and actually doing it are two different mindsets. Barnes can sometimes scare the offense out of a player. (I think that happened to Vescovi a little bit - when he was no longer allowed to play loose) so we have Igor, Okpara, and Lanier. Where do we find the points?
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I think everyone is putting too much in that Indiana game. No way we rotate that many players in a close game. Although Chaz didn’t shoot well, he was on the bench towards the end of the game.
 
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garry123 said:
I am just trying to find 80 points per game average. That will win us 80% of our games with a normal Barnes defense - which would be a decent season depending on the tourney. Somebody has to be a pleasant surprise. I am afraid Phillips and Estrella are going to have trouble breaking out of the 4 points, 2 rebounds mode. Hope I am wrong about that. At some point Carr has to be more than "potential". If Ziegler has to be the scorer, he places too much pressure on himself and will force bad shots. Gainey will be slightly improved. I expect nothing from Boswell. Dubar has to look a lot better than he did Sunday. Mashack is gonna give us more, but being able to shoot the 3 and actually doing it are two different mindsets. Barnes can sometimes scare the offense out of a player. (I think that happened to Vescovi a little bit - when he was no longer allowed to play loose) so we have Igor, Okpara, and Lanier. Where do we find the points?
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We averaged less than 80 last year. In 22-23 we averaged 70 a game and still won 25 games, finished in sweet 16 and top 20 in the AP poll. I don't think 80 is the number we need to be successful.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
We averaged less than 80 last year. In 22-23 we averaged 70 a game and still won 25 games, finished in sweet 16 and top 20 in the AP poll. I don't think 80 is the number we need to be successful.
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With only a slight sprinkle of snark, the number we need is one. One more point than the other team. Wouldn’t look good to the polls or drive tasty analytic models (which seem to drive the polls), but come tournament seeding day, that’s all that counts.
 
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VolsNetClippers2025 said:
ZZ: 12 avg
Lanier: 16 avg
Mashack: 7 avg
Igor: 13 avg
Felix: 10 avg
JG: 8 avg
JP: 5 avg
CC: 4 avg
DStone: 3 avg
Cade: 2 avg

That's 80, don't think any of those numbers are crazy. Assumes none of JP, CC, Stone, or Cade break out in any way.
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JMO I think this team struggles to get to 80 most games. I stil expect a good season, but we may see some slugfest type games.

I don't think Lanier gets to 16 or Igor 13. I hope Estrella can do more. He is someone I think can show us some offensive touch once he is back to 100%.

I hope Mashack can take a step up. He may be what he is a this point ( a great defender and overall player but limited offensively). I hope he can provide us a little more. That is the key to this season. (As we ll as ZZZ being healthy)
 
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LeannaVol said:
JMO I think this team struggles to get to 80 most games. I stil expect a good season, but we may see some slugfest type games.

I don't think Lanier gets to 16 or Igor 13. I hope Estrella can do more. He is someone I think can show us some offensive touch once he is back to 100%.

I hope Mashack can take a step up. He may be what he is a this point ( a great defender and overall player but limited offensively). I hope he can provide us a little more. That is the key to this season. (As we ll as ZZZ being healthy)
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I’m thinking that most of TN’s wins that aren’t versus directional schools will be in the 70s. And most of the loses TN will have scored in the 50s/60s.

I agree about Lanier with 16 and Igor at 13. I’m thinking around 2/3rds of those numbers.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
I’m thinking that most of TN’s wins that aren’t versus directional schools will be in the 70s. And most of the loses TN will have scored in the 50s/60s.

I agree about Lanier with 16 and Igor at 13. I’m thinking around 2/3rds of those numbers.
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Seems like we are all almost in agreement in an optimistic/pessimistic sort of way. Go Vols!
 
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Random, but UCF might have good team this year.

Jordan Ivy-Curry: 17ppg at UTSA last season
Keyshawn Hall: 16.6ppg at George Mason
Darius Johnson: 15ppg last season at UCF
Dior Johnson: 26ppg in JUCO last season, former 5*
Jaylin Sellers: Avg 15ppg at UCF last season
Mikey Williams: talented but hasn’t proven anything
 
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