The Official #17 Tennessee vs. #3 Auburn Game Thread, 4:00 PM ET, ESPN

[chuckiepoo]

Muddy & SRV agree with you

Love me some blues guitar...

SRV

 

[VOLINVONORE]

Did anybody ever hear what they finally called on the play right before the half with Fulky? I thought I heard they made a ruling change during the half. Is that true? They can't move that foul to Santi if that is what they did because the call was a player control charge call, you know the one with the hand on the back of the head with a forward lunge with the other hand.

Did anybody get the whole truth?

I don’t think they took the 3 points they score off that false call.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

I thought this was rather a cool thing to do .... why not?

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[orangejuice]

Damn what a crazy day for top 6 teams. I’ve never seen this many lose on the same day

 

[Frank Duncan]

Hope they spend HOURS on inbounding the ball practice.

 

[vols 30]

Damn what a crazy day for top 6 teams. I’ve never seen this many lose on the same day

I wonder if they'll bump Duke to #1 ?

 

[BallerVolFan]

I wonder if they'll bump Duke to #1 ?

I don’t think they will jump to a 1 seed quite yet. Here’s their metrics....

NET: 12th
KenPom: 5th
BPI: 10th (ESPN)
SOS: 57th (ESPN)... 28th (TeamRankings)
SOR: 11th (ESPN)

Not a single metric has them in the top 4. I used ESPN and TeamRankings for their SOS and SOR but I don’t really put much weight into ESPN’s metrics. But that’s where they stand as of now. They have benefited from a weaker schedule with the ACC being way down this year.

To compare... here are Tennessee’s metrics:

NET: 9th
KenPom: 11th
BPI: 6th (ESPN)
SOS: 2nd (ESPN)... 1st (TeamRankings)
SOR: 12th (ESPN)

The numbers would say we are a better team but the committee definitely implements the eye test regardless of what they say and the fact that they are Duke and have only lost 4 games puts them higher than us. They have won less Quad 1 games than us and have two Quad 2 losses and one Quad 3 loss. I think the 1 seeds after tonight would be Gonzaga, Arizona, Baylor, and Kansas. I think Auburn would slide out of the top 4 due to their three losses in their last six games.

 

[BowlBrother85]

I don’t think they will jump to a 1 seed quite yet. Here’s their metrics....

NET: 12th
KenPom: 5th
BPI: 10th (ESPN)
SOS: 57th (ESPN)... 28th (TeamRankings)
SOR: 11th (ESPN)

Not a single metric has them in the top 4. I used ESPN and TeamRankings for their SOS and SOR but I don’t really put much weight into ESPN’s metrics. But that’s where they stand as of now. They have benefited from a weaker schedule with the ACC being way down this year.

To compare... here are Tennessee’s metrics:

NET: 9th
KenPom: 11th
BPI: 6th (ESPN)
SOS: 2nd (ESPN)... 1st (TeamRankings)
SOR: 12th (ESPN)

The numbers would say we are a better team but the committee definitely implements the eye test regardless of what they say and the fact that they are Duke and have only lost 4 games puts them higher than us. They have won less Quad 1 games than us and have two Quad 2 losses and one Quad 3 loss. I think the 1 seeds after tonight would be Gonzaga, Arizona, Baylor, and Kansas. I think Auburn would slide out of the top 4 due to their three losses in their last six games.

There is also the potential for a "Coach K Farewell" bias. If they are even in the argument for a 1 seed going into Selection Sunday, I think that's what they will get.

 

[GUNTERSVOL]

If they changed it to a SV foul, then it was a good call. But, if it was on Fulk, horrible call

Double checked the DVR this morning and the call they made AT THE TIME for sure was on Fulky. If it had been on Santi since they were in the bonus they would have been shooting, not just awarded the ball on a player possession foul. So, it is now the certified worst CHARGING call in the history of at least the SEC. The three point line is a handy point of reference to see he had no movement toward the defender and was moving the ball away from the contact to hand it to Santi on the cut.

 

[GUNTERSVOL]

They explained that on the broadcast coming back after the halftime highlights. They changed that call to Vescovi and another off of Fulky...the record showed three, Barnes got it reduced to one.

Tell me how they can by any rule book out there give Santi a charging foul without possessing the ball. That was clearly the call.

 

[Volfan2012]

Really enjoyed beating cheating Wade and LSU too.

yes that one too.

 

[wmcovol]

They have two NBA first rounders inside and their guards think it’s about them.

 

[peerless98]

Tell me how they can by any rule book out there give Santi a charging foul without possessing the ball. That was clearly the call.

While you can commit a charge without the ball, I have yet to find a rule that says you can commit a charge while running into your own teammate.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

Here's praying Miss St. can rally together and pull off a small miracle; because I give SC zero chance of winning at Auburn.

 

[cardvolfan]

They have two NBA first rounders inside and their guards think it’s about them.

I sent a thank you note to Wendell Green already.

 

[LadyinOrange]

I remember. Wasn't he diagnosed as a profuse sweater? As I recall he received treatment.

I think you're right.

 

[ColinS]

Shouldn’t have made an a$$ of themselves on the logo.

I say they keep doing it. That's three losses in a row

 

[cwbytruckers]

Looking at the box score and combining stats for UP, BHH, and JA from the five position. It was 11 pts 20 RBS and 2 BLKS. Hard to beat Tennessee with that front court production if the guards are hitting.

 

[Kas232323]

Double checked the DVR this morning and the call they made AT THE TIME for sure was on Fulky. If it had been on Santi since they were in the bonus they would have been shooting, not just awarded the ball on a player possession foul. So, it is now the certified worst CHARGING call in the history of at least the SEC. The three point line is a handy point of reference to see he had no movement toward the defender and was moving the ball away from the contact to hand it to Santi on the cut.

No they did not call the foul on Fulk….ever. The announcers made a mistake. I sat just behind the scorers table and watched the ref call and report the foul on 25….it was never called on John.

 

[rdk4121]

No they did not call the foul on Fulk….ever. The announcers made a mistake. I sat just behind the scorers table and watched the ref call and report the foul on 25….it was never called on John.

Even so, just watched the replay and Wendell Green just ran straight into Santi as he's trying to get around the screen. He clearly didn't extend his arm or anything like that. Mind boggling call.

 

[TC 83]

What Rick Barnes said after Tennessee’s big win over Auburn
Read this presser and I totally agree with Barnes on the overrated chant we heard during the game. Also, it was good to read how he wanted the players to enjoy their win. I love our coach—Barnes has brought this program back to national prominence and has done it the right way. So many things to look forward to for this season and the future.

 

[cwbytruckers]

What Rick Barnes said after Tennessee’s big win over Auburn
Read this presser and I totally agree with Barnes on the overrated chant we heard during the game. Also, it was good to read how he wanted the players to enjoy their win. I love our coach—Barnes has brought this program back to national prominence and has done it the right way. So many things to look forward to for this season and the future.

He is so spot on about that chant. Its the same as saying our team basically isnt good either. It’s embarrassing to hear fans of another top 25 team do that. If Tennessee was 7-20 i still woulnt like it.

 

[cardvolfan]

He is so spot on about that chant. Its the same as saying our team basically isnt good either. It’s embarrassing to hear fans of another top 25 team do that. If Tennessee was 7-20 i still woulnt like it.

Yeah, and started in the student section yet again. I have to say there’s a subsection of our student base that has no clue.

 

[EasternVol]

He is so spot on about that chant. Its the same as saying our team basically isnt good either. It’s embarrassing to hear fans of another top 25 team do that. If Tennessee was 7-20 i still woulnt like it.

It agree. It's dumb and low class and as noted ultimately demeans the chanters' team. I think it originated at Duke or UVa or the like, where the student body has far too high an opinion of themselves.