The Official 2021 Summer Ball Thread

#611
#611
vol66 said:
I’d prefer not to name names, but I just checked some of those stats, even if they compiled it over the weekend, it’s not correct. And no I did not go thru all 14 of them…yet…😛
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We need to push for them to hire vol66 for these duties
 
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#617
#617
You can take stats in summer with a grain of salt. Been at games in several leagues and most are messed up. Saw two pitches that were called strikes with no swing ruled as wild pitches. Two errors issued on runner reaching first and a runner reaching with neither hit or error given. Some times it is lack of knowledge and some guys/gals having to do too many things.
 
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#618
preacherman20 said:
You can take stats in summer with a grain of salt. Been at games in several leagues and most are messed up. Saw two pitches that were called strikes with no swing ruled as wild pitches. Two errors issued on runner reaching first and a runner reaching with neither hit or error given. Some times it is lack of knowledge and some guys/gals having to do too many things.
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Yep, I remember being a kid, keeping stats for other games after my game was over, it’s an art, but there’s also a lot of knowledge being dropped too, if one pays attention.

Your overall point is well taken, stats without context are meaningless. For me context is watching the games to see what is what…for instance, my expectation for what Kyle Booker should look like in Cal Summer Ball was about right, he should be a great player in that league and he has been. Taylor was a surprise because there was no expectation, excited for him, but it’s not SEC baseball. Beck is about where I thought he would be in the Cape, based on his SEC season.
 
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vol66 said:
Yep, I remember being a kid, keeping stats for other games after my game was over, it’s an art, but there’s also a lot of knowledge being dropped too, if one pays attention.

Your overall point is well taken, stats without context are meaningless. For me context is watching the games to see what is what…for instance, my expectation for what Kyle Booker should look like in Cal Summer Ball was about right, he should be a great player in that league and he has been. Taylor was a surprise because there was no expectation, excited for him, but it’s not SEC baseball. Beck is about where I thought he would be in the Cape, based on his SEC season.
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Sure, there are judgment calls with baseball stats and their quality can be debated. However, if there are official stats being recorded at summer league games that are being reported incorrectly, then that is less than ideal.
 
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#621
Volprofch05 said:
Sure, there are judgment calls with baseball stats and their quality can be debated. However, if there are official stats being recorded at summer league games that are being reported incorrectly, then that is less than ideal.
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I didn’t mean to imply that the leagues are doing it wrong…gimmie a second here…brb…
 
#622
#622
vol66 said:
I didn’t mean to imply that the leagues are doing it wrong…gimmie a second here…brb…
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I was thinking more that journalists or others who are compiling information may not be accurate, but who knows and it's not a big deal
 
#624
#624
I understand how UT could make the mistake, under Kirby’s profile stats it has the info that UT is reporting, I knew that was incorrect because I know he’s started games very recently, so I went and looked at the team stats and I got the above from there.

Navigation of summer stats is difficult because every league does things a bit different.

But yeah, it’s not a big deal, especially if one follows along all summer, and summer ball may or may not translate to next spring any way, usually it doesn’t.
 
#625
#625
Yeah. Kirby has one game as one name abd the rest as another. You also have to understand that most of these games are done by interns trying to understand and get experience in certain aspects of baseball from announcing, technology, pa persons, and more. Good job at some. Not so good at others but part of it. Summer ball is just that. Plus you never know what the coaches have told the players to work on doing summer ball. It might be a pitcher learning a new pitch or emphasizing a certain pitch more often or a batter changing his swing.
 
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