The Official #6 Tennessee vs. Missouri Game Thread, 6:00 PM ET, SEC Network

[BradstarVols]

They hit 14 out of 26 for 54% some where highly contested one banked in pure luck. They are 36% on the season from 3, which is good. If they could shoot 54% and put-up 25+ 3s a game, they would be hard to beat by anybody. JMO, even though we are rated as one of the toughest Ds in the nation Vanderbilt & Missouri had their best shooting performance vs us. Was it just luck or is something changing.

Exactly that's my point. They hit 14-26 3s and still could have lost. I think it was just one lucky game. Most of those 3s were ridiculous.

 

[Vols8086]

Exactly that's my point. They hit 14-26 3s and still could have lost. I think it was just one lucky game. Most of those 3s were ridiculous.

They were the number 9 ranked offense in terms of efficiency in the NCAA entering the game. Number 13 overall in scoring per game.

Let’s not act like Missouri scoring points is freakish bad luck. That offense is legit and has been all season long.

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

They care. You said you think the team goes on a deep run into the tournament. That's fandom talking.

Wishful thinking perhaps

 

[WaywardVol]

They were the number 9 ranked offense in terms of efficiency in the NCAA entering the game. Number 13 overall in scoring per game.

Let’s not act like Missouri scoring points is freakish bad luck. That offense is legit and has been all season long.

I appreciate that, but some of those threes weren’t even good shots. The one that hard banked in?

What’s frustrating is we’ve had two good offensive games in a row and lost both. I’d imagine that’s deflating.

 

[Vols8086]

I appreciate that, but some of those threes weren’t even good shots. The one that hard banked in?

What’s frustrating is we’ve had two good offensive games in a row and lost both. I’d imagine that’s deflating.

You have shots every game that go in that aren’t good shots. For both teams.

The point is folks on here trying to act like Missouri scoring points is a shock obviously haven’t been paying attention.

 

[WaywardVol]

You have shots every game that go in that aren’t good shots. For both teams.

The point is folks on here trying to act like Missouri scoring points is a shock obviously haven’t been paying attention.

Im not shocked that Missou is good offensively. Their performance last night was more than a few shots. Crazy circus layups and threes from everywhere. If they shoot their average, we win easily.

 

[lifeisdeep]

He's not wrong.

A half-court launch is low percentage.
Overtime is a tossup.

When that half-court shot is their only chance at giving you a back-breaking loss, when you just had another such loss three days earlier, maybe you should take measures to prevent it.

 

[Vols8086]

Im not shocked that Missou is good offensively. Their performance last night was more than a few shots. Crazy circus layups and threes from everywhere. If they shoot their average, we win easily.

And if we shoot our averages or score our average we get blown out. We doubled them in attempts and points from the FT line last night.

It’s just such a lazy take to suggest one team shoots their average and we win. Which is what we do every time around here to justify or excuse a loss.

 

[cardvolfan]

They were the number 9 ranked offense in terms of efficiency in the NCAA entering the game. Number 13 overall in scoring per game.

Let’s not act like Missouri scoring points is freakish bad luck. That offense is legit and has been all season long.

They are good offensively, yes. 14-26 from 3 is way beyond the norm, though.

 

[Vols8086]

They are good offensively, yes. 14-26 from 3 is way beyond the norm, though.

We shot 10% higher from 3 than our average (which equates to 3 more made 3’s for us last night) and made 12 more FTs (attempted 15 more) than we do on average. Both of those are well beyond our norm.

Add that up and that’s 21 points beyond our season averages. If we are going to laud the improbability of Missouri’s night from 3 then we have to also look at our own numbers offensively and acknowledge that as well.

It doesn’t fit the narrative we want to spin around here but it’s the truth.

 

[GBO18]

We shot 10% higher from 3 than our average (which equates to 3 more made 3’s for us last night) and made 12 more FTs (attempted 15 more) than we do on average. Both of those are well beyond our norm.

Add that up and that’s 21 points beyond our season averages. If we are going to laud the improbability of Missouri’s night from 3 then we have to also look at our own numbers offensively and acknowledge that as well.

It doesn’t fit the narrative we want to spin around here but it’s the truth.

Mizzou is a terrible defensive team though.

 

[Vols8086]

Mizzou is a terrible defensive team though.

We aren’t a good offensive team though…

 

[WaywardVol]

And if we shoot our averages or score our average we get blown out. We doubled them in attempts and points from the FT line last night.

It’s just such a lazy take to suggest one team shoots their average and we win. Which is what we do every time around here to justify or excuse a loss.

I’ll give you that. It is lazy to say of a team shoots their average. But, that wasn’t the only thing I said.

I’m not excusing a loss: my original take was you shouldn’t get overly praised for a comeback when you should never be down by that much in the first place.

I do think Missou was unusually successful from three. I didn’t see a lot of east looks.

 

[walkenvol]

I swear I am boycotting Gatorade. I saw that same freaking ad at least 20 times today.

Are you talking about the one with the large lady standing on her head? I’m worried for her every time I see that commercial that she might break her neck!

 

[BreatheUT]

Wishful thinking perhaps

I'm right with you. I'd like to believe it too but my eyes and the stats show they struggle with offense.

 

[KTrain]

They were the number 9 ranked offense in terms of efficiency in the NCAA entering the game. Number 13 overall in scoring per game.

Let’s not act like Missouri scoring points is freakish bad luck. That offense is legit and has been all season long.

Well 54% on 3s is freakish they are 36% for the year as part of their #9/13 ranking. Just think if they hit 54% for the year now that's as you say freakish. They would probably be at or undefeated. 54% is even decent on 2s.

 

[KTrain]

Im not shocked that Missou is good offensively. Their performance last night was more than a few shots. Crazy circus layups and threes from everywhere. If they shoot their average, we win easily.

Yeah, I agree if they averaged out on their norm, we win but if we hadn't had a pretty good shooting game and were above norm on FTs, they would have blown us out. Like someone said they not only hit 14 threes' but made some circus acrobatic, I guess you would call them layups or rim runs. Some, where unbelievable they went in.

 

[DooleyOrangePants]

I agree. The only fair criticism of Barnes tonight imo was not going smaller earlier. There was no reason to be going big. Hopefully he continues with the small lineup on Wednesday

The other was the defensive call on the last possession. No guarding inbound pass, no on ball pressure. We gave them plenty of space to do what they wanted.

 

[WaywardVol]

Yeah, I agree if they averaged out on their norm, we win but if we hadn't had a pretty good shooting game and were above norm on FTs, they would have blown us out. Like someone said they not only hit 14 threes' but made some circus acrobatic, I guess you would call them layups or rim runs. Some, where unbelievable they went in.

Which is why I’m not too worried about the loss, other than the psychological effects. We have a tired team. Playing and practicing at 11 early in the year is taking its toll. ZZ’s errant three balls. Vescovi’s FT failures.

 

[ColinS]

Which is why I’m not too worried about the loss, other than the psychological effects. We have a tired team. Playing and practicing at 11 early in the year is taking its toll. ZZ’s errant three balls. Vescovi’s FT failures.

I just can't buy the we are tired excuse. Everybody has played the same or almost the same number of games. I will agree that the loss is not as relevant as the teams psychy.

 

[KTrain]

I just can't buy the we are tired excuse. Everybody has played the same or almost the same number of games. I will agree that the loss is not as relevant as the teams psychy.

I noticed SV when they were interviewing him, he has dark circles under his eyes could be an allergy, but my grandma used to say you're rundown those dark circles under your eye's dead giveaway. He has probably logged more miles than any player in the nation.

 

[kckempf]

I had seen a post somewhere describing the miles logged by our team members in the average game, and they're putting in a lot of miles, largely because of the aggressive defense. After briefly cutting back the rotation we've been using more players again in recent games. I'm guessing we're aware of load management with our players and that we need to consider their rest if we want to commit to tis level of defense in the tournaments.

 

[tombowalker]

When that half-court shot is their only chance at giving you a back-breaking loss, when you just had another such loss three days earlier, maybe you should take measures to prevent it.

Sorry man, but this is just emotional nonsense.

You don't even have to be an analytics nerd for this one. Forcing the half-court shot gives them the best chance of winning. And it's not particularly close.

 

[Stoerner Fumbles]

They were the number 9 ranked offense in terms of efficiency in the NCAA entering the game. Number 13 overall in scoring per game.

Let’s not act like Missouri scoring points is freakish bad luck. That offense is legit and has been all season long.

Their three point average jumped 18% against us with a high percentage of those shots being guarded. It was a highly anomalous performance, and they still needed a half court shot at the buzzer to win. None of those observations are subjective. They’re a good offensive team. They also hit an absurd number of circus shots, including two banked threes and a buzzer heave. I don’t think listing those oddities are “acting” like anything.

 

[Stoerner Fumbles]

I noticed SV when they were interviewing him, he has dark circles under his eyes could be an allergy, but my grandma used to say you're rundown those dark circles under your eye's dead giveaway. He has probably logged more miles than any player in the nation.

Half our fanbase just hired your grandmother.