THE official Dale Jr is terrible thread

#26
#26
TheSyxxSynse said:
I've been doing a little research on Little E for this thread.

From 2000-03, Dale Jr. won an average of two races per year. His best year was 2004, when he won six races. From 2005-10, he won only three races.
To win 18 races in the Cup Series, you have to have done something right at one time or another. But, I have to somewhat discredit seven of those wins, the ones at the restrictor plate tracks. I will give him credit and say he is better at these tracks than most, but equipment has a lot to do with his success. When he won those races on those tracks, the DEI cars were unstoppable. I mean, if Michael Waltrip can win races at those tracks in those cars, really anyone could. So skill and talent has little to do with those wins, IMO. I don't remember the circumstances from the rest of the wins, but I'm sure in most of them he had the better car and won the race straight out. However, one's like Michigan '08 I have to discredit also because it was a fuel mileage win. A win is a win no doubt, but some credibility is lost when a driver wins a race this way.

Obviously, Dale Jr. has had some success in his career. But whatever magic he had early in his career has long since past him by. He has success occasionally, but even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while.

In conclusion, Dale Jr. has had skill, talent, desire to win, whatever you want to call it at one time. But now, yes, Dale Jr. is terrible.
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From 2000-2004 his crew chief was Tony Eury Sr. Since then he has has a few CCs including Tony Eury Jr. Obviously Eury Sr was the magic he had early on.
 
#28
#28
TennesseeFan07 said:
Probably because Sr. wouldn't put up with Jr.'s drama on the radio.
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Yep. Eury Sr. comes across as someone who doesn't put up with BS. Dale Jr. dishes our plenty during a race, and he needs a crew chief that can put him in his place, which he hasn't had since Sr.
 
#31
#31
volintears said:
well he's really screwed then,cause IMO Retarte is a idiot,and cost Gordon more than a few wins with stupid calls to pit or not to pit,2 tires VS 4 tires ect.
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Agreed. Steve seems to be more of a liability than an asset.
 
#32
#32
VoL BaLL 777 said:
What is the over/under on how many races Dale wins next year?

Im going to go out on a limb and say 0
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Does that count non-point races?:lolabove:
He'll be luck to make the top 20 in points in 2011. Even if the field is 15 in lieu of 12, he still won't make it.:rock:
 
#33
#33
if he can win at Daytona, he could win another 3-4 races. if his team struggles early, he'll give up.
 
#38
#38
I think he wins one. NASCAR needs him to perform better to get people coming back to the tracks, and if he's close in the final laps, they will do all they can to get him to victory lane.
 
#41
#41
Ok, guys someone has gotta say it. Jr has nearly 20 cup wins. HE IS NOT TERRIBLE. Yes he is not what he once was but he is certainly no Kyle Petty as some compare. I dont think there is any reason for people to rip him just because they are mad he gets media attention. Its not like he begs for it, anytime they talk about him people always say how shy he is. He doesnt like the attention. On to this season though, I honestly think the 88 is the favorite for 500. I know i will be ripped for this but now that Daytona is resurfaced and is gonna be alot like Talladega and be alot of drafting who does that make one of the favorites? ole #88. Harvick is the only one you could argue is better right now. Jr is also all about confidence. If he wins Daytona and backs it up with some top 10's amd 15's once the schedule hits his good tracks in late March early April he could win a couple more and be top 10 in points. JMO though.:loco:
 
#42
#42
Powell Buckeye 34 said:
Ok, guys someone has gotta say it. Jr has nearly 20 cup wins. HE IS NOT TERRIBLE. Yes he is not what he once was but he is certainly no Kyle Petty as some compare. I dont think there is any reason for people to rip him just because they are mad he gets media attention. Its not like he begs for it, anytime they talk about him people always say how shy he is. He doesnt like the attention. On to this season though, I honestly think the 88 is the favorite for 500. I know i will be ripped for this but now that Daytona is resurfaced and is gonna be alot like Talladega and be alot of drafting who does that make one of the favorites? ole #88. Harvick is the only one you could argue is better right now. Jr is also all about confidence. If he wins Daytona and backs it up with some top 10's amd 15's once the schedule hits his good tracks in late March early April he could win a couple more and be top 10 in points. JMO though.:loco:
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I don't see how Jr. could be the favorite at Daytona. He had his success in DEI cars and even Mikey was winning restrictor plate races at DEI. He hasn't done anything at Hendrick to make me think he would be the favorite going into Daytona. I do think he is capable of winning but so are several other cars at that track.
 
#46
#46
MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
Kyle Busch. If Kyle isn't running the NNS race then whoever is driving for Gibbs that week.
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You don't get a chance to pull for the other driver much then do you? I'll start a whole other conversation if I speak my mind on Cup drivers running every Nationwide race, but you can guess my opinion on it.
 
#47
#47
Powell Buckeye 34 said:
Ok, guys someone has gotta say it. Jr has nearly 20 cup wins. HE IS NOT TERRIBLE. Yes he is not what he once was but he is certainly no Kyle Petty as some compare. I dont think there is any reason for people to rip him just because they are mad he gets media attention. Its not like he begs for it, anytime they talk about him people always say how shy he is. He doesnt like the attention. On to this season though, I honestly think the 88 is the favorite for 500. I know i will be ripped for this but now that Daytona is resurfaced and is gonna be alot like Talladega and be alot of drafting who does that make one of the favorites? ole #88. Harvick is the only one you could argue is better right now. Jr is also all about confidence. If he wiins Daytona and backs it up with some top 10's amd 15's once the schedule hits his good tracks in late March early April he could win a couple more and be top 10 in points. JMO though.:loco:
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The only thing he will ever be the favorite to win again is the popularity contest.
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#48
#48
TheSyxxSynse said:
You don't get a chance to pull for the other driver much then do you? I'll start a whole other conversation if I speak my mind on Cup drivers running every Nationwide race, but you can guess my opinion on it.
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I don't care if they run in it, but the Championship should go to the full time guys that don't have Sprint Cup rides.
 
#49
#49
justingroves said:
I don't care if they run in it, but the Championship should go to the full time guys that don't have Sprint Cup rides.
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I also agree that the championship should go to a full time Nationwide driver, because no Cup driver should be able to run full-time. I know the argument for it is that Cup drivers sell tickets and give regulars in the series an idea of how to run with the big dogs, but it just isn't right that in every race the winner and the rest of the top eight are all Cup drivers. The regulars don't stand a chance. How would it look for the Nationwide champion that is a regular in the series end his championship season with no wins?
 
#50
#50
TheSyxxSynse said:
I also agree that the championship should go to a full time Nationwide driver, because no Cup driver should be able to run full-time. I know the argument for it is that Cup drivers sell tickets and give regulars in the series an idea of how to run with the big dogs, but it just isn't right that in every race the winner and the rest of the top eight are all Cup drivers. The regulars don't stand a chance. How would it look for the Nationwide champion that is a regular in the series end his championship season with no wins?[/QUOTE]

It would look better than a Cup regular winning the title.
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