THE official Dale Jr is terrible thread

#54
#54
He'd be serviceable, if he was Dale Winklebottom. Though Redneck Nation holding it against Robby for "wrecking Fale" at Daytona is getting old. Though likely most of them are netless, or on dial up, so watching the video would be too hard.
 
#55
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JTrainDavis said:
He'd be serviceable, if he was Dale Winklebottom. Though Redneck Nation holding it against Robby for "wrecking Fale" at Daytona is getting old. Though likely most of them are netless, or on dial up, so watching the video would be too hard.
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If It wasn't Robby it would have been someone else or jr wreaking somebody and taking himself out. I will never understand the jr crowd. His dad was the fing man. His son however, not so much. In short, jr is terrible.
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#56
#56
best.thread.ever.


BTW. Joe Nemechek and Brian Vickers have the same amount of wins as Jr has at HMS.
 
#57
#57
7thgroupvolfan said:
If It wasn't Robby it would have been someone else or jr wreaking somebody and taking himself out. I will never understand the jr crowd. His dad was the fing man. His son however, not so much. In short, jr is terrible.
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It was stupid though for Robby to try and squeeze back in line at Daytona and just as bad when Regan Smith actually moved up for him. Regan should have held his spot imo.
 
#58
#58
IMO, he's got talent. He just had a Cole Trickle/Rowdy Burns experience when his dad died and he's lost his gumption for racing.
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#59
#59
I don't think Junebug is terrible, you don't win 20 races if you are. He hasn't forgotten how to drive, but he seems to have lost the desire to really excel. I'm not sure how much is Dale, Sr's. death, how much is complacency, how much is lack of motivation, but I submit it is some of all. When he was at DEI, everything depended on his success, but now he is number four with three of some of the best drivers of all time. Having to pull the main wagon perhaps motivated him to go 10/10ths, while not being relied upon has resulted in his mediocrity.
 
#60
#60
If he was still at DEI, he would still be the 3rd most talented driver on that team. Face it, he just isnt any good. If he wasnt an Earnhardt, he would be watching from home.
 
#61
#61
if his dad was still around, i'd say his results would be different. his dad wouldn't put up w/ the crap he has pulled
 
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rbroyles said:
I don't think Junebug is terrible, you don't win 20 races if you are. He hasn't forgotten how to drive, but he seems to have lost the desire to really excel. I'm not sure how much is Dale, Sr's. death, how much is complacency, how much is lack of motivation, but I submit it is some of all. When he was at DEI, everything depended on his success, but now he is number four with three of some of the best drivers of all time. Having to pull the main wagon perhaps motivated him to go 10/10ths, while not being relied upon has resulted in his mediocrity.
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The article that ESPN recently posted (week before Daytona, IIRC), about his new found commitment under Letarte's watch - and which made much ado about Jr. being required to be in his pit 30 minutes before and after a race or practice - was telling.

I am a Jr. fan. I know next to nothing about NASCAR. I am sure that those two facts are positively correlated. But to me, he just doesn't seem to have a fire to be up front, or to mix it up -ever.

While I hate Kyle Busch (go figure), you just know that he's going to get up front or wreck himself trying. Conversely, Junior just seems to be doing laps, signing autographs and cashing checks....which is fine, if you are just any driver. But love him or hate him, he's not "just another driver" - he's the heir apparent to his Dad's legacy. Considering how wealthy and wildly popular that has made him, you'd at least hope that he tried to live up to those lofty standards at some point. Or, at least act like you were trying to do so.

I just wish Junior would figure that out at some point, too. But for now, I've picked him and have little choice but to hope he does something of merit, at some point. It is what it is.
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#63
#63
its kinda anoying that Jr. gets more tv time being 2 or 3 laps down than the leaders do just about every week.
 
#64
#64
bubbacurry1 said:
its kinda anoying that Jr. gets more tv time being 2 or 3 laps down than the leaders do just about every week.
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I'm 1/10 millionth to blame for that, honestly.

Chances I can watch an entire race without Jr. having a chance to win: 1 in 25

With him in the Top 10: 1 in 1.5-2

Same thing with Tiger and golf.

I used to watch the NBA when MJ was with Bulls, whenever he was on TV. Since? I was watching my first Sportscenter the other day in probably several years when some NBA highlights came on. I was surprised that Oklahoma had a pro team. Dead serious. Had no idea.

If its not football, you better have something I really want to watch, or I just won't. I don't mean that I single-handedly determine the viewership of the universe, but I think that more people are like me, as not (except replace "football" with whatever their favorite sport is).

That "thud" you hear when he hits the wall isn't his quarter panel, its the sound of hundreds of thousands of people (maybe millions) simultaneously turning the channel.

I'm not saying its either right or fair, and I can see why people who don't like Junior hate it. But, it is what it is.
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#65
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Tenacious D said:
I'm 1/10 millionth to blame for that, honestly.

Chances I can watch an entire race without Jr. having a chance to win: 1 in 25

With him in the Top 10: 1 in 1.5-2

Same thing with Tiger and golf.

I used to watch the NBA when MJ was with Bulls, whenever he was on TV. Since? I was watching my first Sportscenter the other day in probably several years when some NBA highlights came on. I was surprised that Oklahoma had a pro team. Dead serious. Had no idea.

If its not football, you better have something I really want to watch, or I just won't. I don't mean that I single-handedly determine the viewership of the universe, but I think that more people are like me, as not (except replace "football" with whatever their favorite sport is).

That "thud" you hear when he hits the wall isn't his quarter panel, its the sound of hundreds of thousands of people (maybe millions) simultaneously turning the channel.

I'm not saying its either right or fair, and I can see why people who don't like Junior hate it. But, it is what it is.
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That's just how it is. They need to keep the "drop in " viewers from flipping through.

Good post.
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#66
#66
Tenacious D said:
I'm 1/10 millionth to blame for that, honestly.

Chances I can watch an entire race without Jr. having a chance to win: 1 in 25

With him in the Top 10: 1 in 1.5-2

Same thing with Tiger and golf.

I used to watch the NBA when MJ was with Bulls, whenever he was on TV. Since? I was watching my first Sportscenter the other day in probably several years when some NBA highlights came on. I was surprised that Oklahoma had a pro team. Dead serious. Had no idea.

If its not football, you better have something I really want to watch, or I just won't. I don't mean that I single-handedly determine the viewership of the universe, but I think that more people are like me, as not (except replace "football" with whatever their favorite sport is).

That "thud" you hear when he hits the wall isn't his quarter panel, its the sound of hundreds of thousands of people (maybe millions) simultaneously turning the channel.

I'm not saying its either right or fair, and I can see why people who don't like Junior hate it. But, it is what it is.
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solid post. I think alot of the pressure he has put on him is unfair. I would hate to be in his shoes. He cant win no matter what he does. If he was to win a championship, everybody would say that it wasnt good enough cause Sr had 7. So he is kinda damned if he does, damned if he doesnt.
 
#67
#67
I don't get all the love for Jr.......I mean I can see why some would like him but
 
#69
#69
Tenacious D said:
I'm 1/10 millionth to blame for that, honestly.

Chances I can watch an entire race without Jr. having a chance to win: 1 in 25

With him in the Top 10: 1 in 1.5-2

Same thing with Tiger and golf.

I used to watch the NBA when MJ was with Bulls, whenever he was on TV. Since? I was watching my first Sportscenter the other day in probably several years when some NBA highlights came on. I was surprised that Oklahoma had a pro team. Dead serious. Had no idea.

If its not football, you better have something I really want to watch, or I just won't. I don't mean that I single-handedly determine the viewership of the universe, but I think that more people are like me, as not (except replace "football" with whatever their favorite sport is).

That "thud" you hear when he hits the wall isn't his quarter panel, its the sound of hundreds of thousands of people (maybe millions) simultaneously turning the channel.

I'm not saying its either right or fair, and I can see why people who don't like Junior hate it. But, it is what it is.
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You've managed to express the "Junior Phenom" existence about as well as I have seen.
 
#72
#72
bubbacurry1 said:
solid post. I think alot of the pressure he has put on him is unfair. I would hate to be in his shoes. He cant win no matter what he does. If he was to win a championship, everybody would say that it wasnt good enough cause Sr had 7. So he is kinda damned if he does, damned if he doesnt.
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Not to be contrarian, but I don't buy that.

Everything he has is because of his Dad. The instant rise to stardom, the immediate legitimacy, throngs of fans, the biggest endorsements, the best cars, etc. Everything.

Unfortunately, the cost of those things is real - and it comes in the form of pressure-packed expectations. While I've always appreciated how Junior has not seemed to overtly prostitute his father's legacy, but neither has he refused it. In fact, he has derived tremendous benefit from it, whether intentionally or not, and in my opinion, he must take all that also comes with it.

Meaning, I can only excuse the magnifcation of Juniors poor performance insofar as he has sought to refuse it - which is to say, not one ounce. Most glaringly, with his decision to go to HMS, as that ticket was not - could not - have been punched by his merits alone, but rather by his name and legions of fans, instead.

If Junior truly wanted to make it on his own (and he may not have been able to do so), then he should've earned it on his own, and eschewed all short-cuts along the way. But he hasn't, and must now withstand the scrutiny which comes with it. If he's too elevated by his name, then it is both expected and even right that he be judged as such.
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#75
#75
All the boy has going for him is his last name. If not for that he would be a Dick Trickle.
 
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