The Official Michael Cohen Testimony Thread

[Mick]

So have you girls determined the campaign finance violation fine he needs to pay yet in regards to all of this?

People need to see his taxes to see how much he has. Some may have even read Art of the Deal.

 

[hog88]

He's in jail for that crime is he not? You act like that is the world of difference and he is really innocent. Please hog.

There is a world of difference.

 

[hog88]

Huh? When a defendant pleads guilty to a charge in court, the judge in turn, finds them guilty of that crime. A judge will typically say something like "Having plead guilty, the court finds you guilty." upon acceptance of the plea. A "conviction" does not have to result from the verdict of a jury. Michael Cohen, is indeed, a convicted felon now, as a result of his pleading guilty to a felony and the court accepting his plea.

Yes, he has a conviction just don't act like the prosecutors put on a case and convinced 12 jurrors of his guilt.

 

[UT_VOLS13]

Origins of Michael Cohen probe unsealed: Court files reveal what led to FBI raids

 

[Mick]

Yes, he has a conviction just don't act like the prosecutors put on a case and convinced 12 jurrors of his guilt.

Why do you think they lacked the evidence? From what I've heard there is audio, testimony, banking records and cooperating witnesses in the Trump Org.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Yes, he has a conviction just don't act like the prosecutors put on a case and convinced 12 jurrors of his guilt.

A conviction is a conviction. I don't see why you think it makes a difference that it didn't go to trial.

 

[hog88]

Why do you think they lacked the evidence? From what I've heard there is audio, testimony, banking records and cooperating witnesses in the Trump Org.

I don't think what he did was a campaign finance violation, and neither did the former head of the FEC that regulates such things.

 

[Mick]

I don't think what he did was a campaign finance violation, and neither did the former head of the FEC that regulates such things.

So, you trust the FEC now and form your opinion based on that? What is the former head of FEC's name?

Hans Anatol von Spakovsky (born March 11, 1959) is an American attorney and a former member of the Federal Election Commission (FEC). He is the manager of the Heritage Foundation's Election Law Reform Initiative and a senior legal fellow in Heritage's Meese Center for Legal and Judicial Studies

Do you think he has an agenda. lol!

 

[hog88]

So, you trust the FEC now and form your opinion based on that? What is the former head of FEC's name?

Hans Anatol von Spakovsky (born March 11, 1959) is an American attorney and a former member of the Federal Election Commission (FEC). He is the manager of the Heritage Foundation's Election Law Reform Initiative and a senior legal fellow in Heritage's Meese Center for Legal and Judicial Studies

Do you think he has an agenda. lol!

Bradley Smith, he had no skin in the game like the overzealous federal prosecutor. Why drop more serious charges that come with more time for a guilty plea to a minor "campaign finance" violation?

 

[Mick]

Bradley Smith, he had no skin in the game like the overzealous federal prosecutor. Why drop more serious charges that come with more time for a guilty plea to a minor "campaign finance" violation?

Because that is the way the justice system has operated for decades.

 

[hog88]

Because that is the way the justice system has operated for decades.

Doesn't make it right now does it?

 

[Mick]

Doesn't make it right now does it?

I don't see Cohen bitching.

 

[hog88]

I don't see Cohen bitching.

yeah, he got off easy

 

[Franklin Pierce]

You see, according to the media, the SDNY were pit-bulls. They were the career prosecutors free of scope limits and restraint. That was going to make all the difference. In fact, the real danger for Trump was never Robert Mueller’s investigation, no it’s always been the SDNY and they aren’t going to let this go. There were even #SDNY hashtags and T-shirts.


Well, so much for that. It was just announced yesterday that the SDNY’s investigation into the Trump organization and the Michael Cohen related “hush money” payments is over.

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Judge William H. Pauley III announced that prosecutors in the Southern District of New York revealed this development to the court in a status report, as media companies including The New York Times, Associated Press, CNN, and Dow Jones & Co. have pushed to unseal the search warrant materials related to the case. The end of the investigation likely means no additional charges will be filed against anyone, including the president.

“We are pleased that the investigation surrounding these ridiculous campaign finance allegations is now closed,” Trump’s attorney Jay Sekulow said in a statement. “We have maintained from the outset that the President never engaged in any campaign finance violation.”​

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And with that, the LAST GREAT HOPE for the left to nail Trump on something criminal has breathed its last breath. There will be no Trump in handcuffs. The SDNY isn’t going to expose mountains of fraud within the Trump organization and Cohen will not be bringing anyone along with him to prison.

The SDNY Just Crushed One of the Left's Biggest Dreams

 

[Stew Cook]

You see, according to the media, the SDNY were pit-bulls. They were the career prosecutors free of scope limits and restraint. That was going to make all the difference. In fact, the real danger for Trump was never Robert Mueller’s investigation, no it’s always been the SDNY and they aren’t going to let this go. There were even #SDNY hashtags and T-shirts.


Well, so much for that. It was just announced yesterday that the SDNY’s investigation into the Trump organization and the Michael Cohen related “hush money” payments is over.

​

Judge William H. Pauley III announced that prosecutors in the Southern District of New York revealed this development to the court in a status report, as media companies including The New York Times, Associated Press, CNN, and Dow Jones & Co. have pushed to unseal the search warrant materials related to the case. The end of the investigation likely means no additional charges will be filed against anyone, including the president.

“We are pleased that the investigation surrounding these ridiculous campaign finance allegations is now closed,” Trump’s attorney Jay Sekulow said in a statement. “We have maintained from the outset that the President never engaged in any campaign finance violation.”​

​

And with that, the LAST GREAT HOPE for the left to nail Trump on something criminal has breathed its last breath. There will be no Trump in handcuffs. The SDNY isn’t going to expose mountains of fraud within the Trump organization and Cohen will not be bringing anyone along with him to prison.

The SDNY Just Crushed One of the Left's Biggest Dreams

Wonder how much Barr leaned on the investigation to be wrapped up?

 

[Franklin Pierce]

AOC, Ilhan Omar accuse Trump of 'spewing fascist ideology' after rally

Democratic Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Ilhan Omar alleged Thursday that President Trump is steering the country toward fascism, as they ramped up their criticism of the president in the wake of a fiery rally where he repeatedly blasted the freshman lawmakers.

Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., speaking to reporters on Capitol Hill, reacted to the president’s recent comments -- as well as the rally crowd's reaction -- by saying it shows they're “not in politics anymore.”


“We are not in politics anymore. We are in racism… we are in a fascistic government,” she said.

Ocasio-Cortez also said the rhetoric used in recent days could pose “personal security issues,” not just for lawmakers like herself, but other persons of color. The New Yorker added she trusts Capitol security officials will take care of security but is fearful more for immigrant communities and other persons of color.

Moments later, Omar also weighed in on Capitol Hill, saying: "I want to make sure that every single person who is in this country, who is aspiring to become part of the American fabric, understands nothing this president says should be taken to heart.

"We are Americans as much as anyone else, this is our country, and we are where we belong. I told people on my election night in the great state of Minnesota, we don’t just welcome refugees, we send them to represent us.

"And as much as he is spewing his fascist ideology on stage, telling U.S. citizens to go back because they do not agree with his detrimental policies for our country, we tell people that here in the United States, dissent is patriotic. Here in the United States, disagreement is welcomed, debate is welcomed – especially in the people’s House."

AOC, Ilhan Omar accuse Trump of 'spewing fascist ideology' after rally

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Powerline Blog: Ilhan Omar Received Asylum Under False Name, Married Brother

The Powerline blog claimed in an investigative report published Thursday that Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) not only married her brother, but also received asylum as a child after her family used a false name.

The extensive blog post was written by David Steinberg, who did much of the initial reporting on Omar that was re-traced by the Minneapolis Star Tribune after a state ethics investigation revealed last month that she had filed joint tax returns for two years with one man while married to another.

Steinberg claims that Omar is actually one of five siblings in the Elmi family from Somalia. Three of the siblings were granted asylum in the United Kingdom, while two were granted asylum in the United States, including the father, Sternberg alleges.

He further alleges: “The Omar family is a second, unrelated family which was being granted asylum by the United States. The Omars allowed Ilhan, her genetic sister Sahra, and her genetic father Nur Said to use false names to apply for asylum as members of the Omar family.”

Steinberg also alleges that Rep. Omar married her alleged brother, Ahmed Nur Said Elmi, in 2009: he had already reportedly been granted asylum in the UK. Following the marriage, he allegedly went on to study at North Dakota State University.

Elmi allegedly lived with her and with Ahmed Hirsi, the father of her children and the man to whom she says she had been married in an Islamic ceremony in 2002, while he studied. He allegedly left the U.S. shortly thereafter.

Omar reportedly divorced Elmi in 2017 and legally married Hirsi a short time later. However, she filed joint tax returns with Hirsi for 2014 and 2015 while still legally married to Elmi.

Omar paid a lawyer to help her deal with the situation, the state ethics investigation confirmed. The campaign finance violation occurred when she used campaign funds to pay the lawyer for what was a non-campaign-related purpose.

Steinberg notes that Omar was 12 years old at the time her family entered the U.S., and so “had no say” in the matter. However, he adds, she is now under scrutiny for later actions as an adult, including her marriages, tax filings, and campaign expenditures.

The Daily Mail, reporting Wednesday on the allegations about Omar’s marriage, noted that the official who performed Omar’s legal marriage to Elmi was a Christian minister.

Breitbart News reached out to Rep. Omar’s office for comment Thursday and received no response.

Powerline Blog: Ilhan Omar Received Asylum Under False Name, Married Brother | Breitbart

 

[evillawyer]

AOC, Ilhan Omar accuse Trump of 'spewing fascist ideology' after rally

Democratic Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Ilhan Omar alleged Thursday that President Trump is steering the country toward fascism, as they ramped up their criticism of the president in the wake of a fiery rally where he repeatedly blasted the freshman lawmakers.

Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., speaking to reporters on Capitol Hill, reacted to the president’s recent comments -- as well as the rally crowd's reaction -- by saying it shows they're “not in politics anymore.”


“We are not in politics anymore. We are in racism… we are in a fascistic government,” she said.

Ocasio-Cortez also said the rhetoric used in recent days could pose “personal security issues,” not just for lawmakers like herself, but other persons of color. The New Yorker added she trusts Capitol security officials will take care of security but is fearful more for immigrant communities and other persons of color.

Moments later, Omar also weighed in on Capitol Hill, saying: "I want to make sure that every single person who is in this country, who is aspiring to become part of the American fabric, understands nothing this president says should be taken to heart.

"We are Americans as much as anyone else, this is our country, and we are where we belong. I told people on my election night in the great state of Minnesota, we don’t just welcome refugees, we send them to represent us.

"And as much as he is spewing his fascist ideology on stage, telling U.S. citizens to go back because they do not agree with his detrimental policies for our country, we tell people that here in the United States, dissent is patriotic. Here in the United States, disagreement is welcomed, debate is welcomed – especially in the people’s House."

AOC, Ilhan Omar accuse Trump of 'spewing fascist ideology' after rally

Wrong thread. The "I'm scared of 5 foot tall Muslim women" thread is elsewhere.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Wrong thread. The "I'm scared of 5 foot tall Muslim women" thread is elsewhere.

I screwed up. Definitely wrong thread. I apologize. I'm an idiot.

I wasn't trying to hijack the thread. I thought I was in the Leninist Girl Scout Troop thread.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

I screwed up. Definitely wrong thread. I apologize. I'm an idiot.

I wasn't trying to hijack the thread. I thought I was in the Leninist Girl Scout Troop thread.

No, this is the "we got him now" thread part 95.

 

[Mick]

Wrong thread. The "I'm scared of 5 foot tall Muslim women" thread is elsewhere.

Classic deflection from our daily Breitbart fearmonger.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Cohen violated campaign finance laws, was convicted of that crime, and Trump was named as individual one as a co-conspirator to that crime.

Ok, gotcha thank you.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Why do you think they lacked the evidence? From what I've heard there is audio, testimony, banking records and cooperating witnesses in the Trump Org.

Plead guilty... No discovery?

 

[Mick]

Plead guilty... No discovery?

He had discovery. Trump tried to use Attorney Client privilege. Took months for the prosecution to get the evidence seized from Cohen.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

He had discovery. Trump tried to use Attorney Client privilege. Took months for the prosecution to get the evidence seized from Cohen.

That makes sense. I think i remember reading that.