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#176
1. Chad in Portland

2. Oregon State and Washington don't recruit complete teams either but they almost always manage to beat Oregon for the local bigs that would go a long way to making the Ducks a legitimate national power.

3. I've heard multiple direct accounts from former local players that said Belotti was very arrogant in his local recruiting approach.
 
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milohimself said:
1. Chad in Portland
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Haven't heard of that one (but don't listen to sports radio much). What station is he on?

milohimself said:
3. I've heard multiple direct accounts from former local players that said Belotti was very arrogant in his local recruiting approach.
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Local players that Belotti didn't end up offering?

What did he do or say that was arrogant in those cases?
 
#178
#178
Chad in Portland is a clone legend . Of course everyone around here hates Rome like they hate ESPN.
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#179
#179
CIP is the man. He's on the Morning Sports Page and works spot stuff during Blazers/Ducks/Seahawks/Timbers games on 95.5 the Game.

And I have heard multiple accounts on radio and in person of local kids recruited by Bellotti, and his pitch was basically "You're local, we're the f***ing Oregon Ducks, therefore you're going to play for us."

Either way, it is obvious there was something wrong with his pitch to beaten out for so many top local recruits (half a dozen to a dozen four and five stars between Oregon and Washington) by very mediocre Oregon State and Washington programs.
 
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Nightowl said:
Oklahoma was only 1 in the computers books. Oregon will break the streak. USC will give us a tough game through 3 before depth and conditioning takes over and Oregon runs away with it in the 4th.
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Doesn't look like Oregon will be number one after all. So I guess I'm laying betting my mortgage on the Rebel Black Bears (gulp).
 
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DuckinTN said:
I don't know about you, Nightowl, but I'm pretty nervous about next Saturday. The Trojans are going to be amped.
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barkely will get his points. i still think this trojan d stinks though. should be interesting to see if this oregon team follows former highly ranked oregon teams and craps the bed in the colesium. originally i called an sc victory for this game. particurally with the bye week. but the closer it gets teh more i think sc's d is going to get shredded.
 
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oregon has yet to have played a even mediocre team on the road and stanford is just a good matchup for them offensively. the margin of victory indicates they are an elite team, but it certainly would not be completely shocking to find out they are a fraud.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
fraud with really good timing. Defense is a sham, conference is weak and their marquee OOC win was against a bottom 4 SEC squad. Serendipity might work for them.
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there are certainly a lot of teams that would likely still be undefeated with the same schedule. the serious question is whether the margin of victory is indicative of a great team or just a good scheme that will not be effective against a defense with a pulse.
 
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Bumi said:
It's easy for an oline to look good playing against sub par talent. See Oregon is 09. Heralded offensive line that gets demolished in the Rose Bowl against a defensive with premier FBS talent.

As you said, their defense is a joke, and their WR's would be riding the pine for most any elite program.
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not sure. dude has great pass protection and rbs have huge holes. yes they've played inferior talent, but harbaugh has had that oline destroying people for years now.
 
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droski said:
there are certainly a lot of teams that would likely still be undefeated with the same schedule. the serious question is whether the margin of victory is indicative of a great team or just a good scheme that will not be effective against a defense with a pulse.
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a good defense paired with any ability to control the ball is going to absolutely murder Oregon's defense. What's lost in all this "blur" stupidity is that it does the same to the Oregon defense that it does to the opposition. Unfortunately, they've played one decent team and its offense laid down in the second half (turnovers didn't help).
 
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BigPapaVol said:
fraud with really good timing. Defense is a sham, conference is weak and their marquee OOC win was against a bottom 4 SEC squad. Serendipity might work for them.
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They'll get theirs. The Ducks D will be allowing an avg. of 500 yards a game allowed from here on, just wait and see. Nobody can win 5 straight doing that.
 
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droski said:
there are certainly a lot of teams that would likely still be undefeated with the same schedule. the serious question is whether the margin of victory is indicative of a great team or just a good scheme that will not be effective against a defense with a pulse.
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Oregon is a less talented version of the 08 Sooners. They're clearly the best team in the Pac-10, which has looked progressively worse as the season drags on, but I don't know how they'd match up against elite teams from other conferences. I think they'd beat BSU and TCU. Maybe Michigan State. I'm not so sure about Auburn(they'd score though) and Alabama.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
a good defense paired with any ability to control the ball is going to absolutely murder Oregon's defense. What's lost in all this "blur" stupidity is that it does the same to the Oregon defense that it does to the opposition. Unfortunately, they've played one decent team and its offense laid down in the second half (turnovers didn't help).
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This is the Ducks saving grace: They are alone at number one in the nation at turnover margin, and top 5 in interceptions made in a pass-happy league. What the Ducks D lacks, especially upfront, they make up for in ballhawking.

The remainder of the schedule will make their D look like swiss cheese and it will bite them at some point.
 
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milohimself said:
This is the Ducks saving grace: They are alone at number one in the nation at turnover margin, and top 5 in interceptions made in a pass-happy league. What the Ducks D lacks, especially upfront, they make up for in ballhawking.

The remainder of the schedule will make their D look like swiss cheese and it will bite them at some point.
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but a bunch of that turnover margin is about sorry opposition and teams playing catch up.
 
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milohimself said:
This is the Ducks saving grace: They are alone at number one in the nation at turnover margin, and top 5 in interceptions made in a pass-happy league. What the Ducks D lacks, especially upfront, they make up for in ballhawking.

The remainder of the schedule will make their D look like swiss cheese and it will bite them at some point.
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agreed. sooner or later they'll turn it over a couple of times and the otehr team will take advantage. even great teams have problems running the table.
 
#193
#193
Arizona has the best chance to beat Oregon, followed by USC. Arizona's defense is the best Oregon will face from here out, and the Trojans have some play makers. Oregon State isn't the same with only 1 Rodgers playing.
 
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droski said:
agreed. sooner or later they'll turn it over a couple of times and the otehr team will take advantage. even great teams have problems running the table.
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yes. Great D is typically the piece that holds undefeated runs together. Offense eventually has off days. Need either weak schedule or defense to step up. Oregon has the weak schedule part but doesn't appear to have the defense.
 
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TennesseeFan07 said:
Arizona has the best chance to beat Oregon, followed by USC. Arizona's defense is the best Oregon will face from here out, and the Trojans have some play makers. Oregon State isn't the same with only 1 Rodgers playing.
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have to agree, though oregon is a different animal at home. if barkley doesn't turn it over i expect sc to score enough to make it interesting.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
but a bunch of that turnover margin is about sorry opposition and teams playing catch up.
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True, but being number one by themselves says they are at least decent at taking care of the ball and getting it back from the other team. Not the greatest, but there is no denying they are at least proficient in it.

BigPapaVol said:
yes. Great D is typically the piece that holds undefeated runs together. Offense eventually has off days. Need either weak schedule or defense to step up. Oregon has the weak schedule part but doesn't appear to have the defense.
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Oregon's schedule certainly isn't weak from here on. It's no SEC run, but I doubt there are more than a couple teams that could make it through the Ducks upcoming 5 game stretch without a L.

And droski, I doubt turnovers will be the hinge; with read option, the d-line has to crash and get to the ball at the point of decision. The Ducks operate that play much, much faster than everybody else. Watch it if you're seeing the Ducks at the Coliseum this weekend, or if you're going back up north to see them play the bears. Say what you want about their "gimmick" offense, they do run to set up the pass, which is sound football in that regard.

Oregon's offense will get stopped when they play a defense with large d-linemen that can hold their own, fast OLB's who can contain the corners and d-backs who can keep Thomas' options covered up when they decide to pass. They will be punting it away when that happens, but not giving it over to the D.
 
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#197
i've seen firsthand what 3rd and longs can do to that scheme when it comes to ints by the qb. thomas hasn't had much pressure so we don't know how he would respond to getting hit on a regular basis. he's still a first year starter and therefore likely susceptable to INTs and the occasional fumble.
 
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droski said:
i've seen firsthand what 3rd and longs can do to that scheme when it comes to ints by the qb. thomas hasn't had much pressure so we don't know how he would respond to getting hit on a regular basis. he's still a first year starter and therefore likely susceptable to INTs.
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He's been pressured. He's handled it fairly well. However, he hasn't played a team with a sold front four.
 
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droski said:
i've seen firsthand what 3rd and longs can do to that scheme when it comes to ints by the qb. thomas hasn't had much pressure so we don't know how he would respond to getting hit on a regular basis. he's still a first year starter and therefore likely susceptable to INTs and the occasional fumble.
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If it's a situation where Thomas might be even a little susceptible to throwing a pick, they're going to run. Arizona is the only team left on the schedule that can maybe even match up a little to Oregon's offense. Like the '08 Sooners, the Ducks offense won't get exposed 'til bowl season.
 
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milohimself said:
Mizzou and MSU both lose, Bama wins out taking care of 'Barn at home and the SEC title over USCjr, garnering them enough first place votes to vault over Boise and TCU/Utah or a one-loss Oregon.
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this is what I see happening as well. hell why does oregon even need to lose for this to happen?
 
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