The Official Tennessee Titans thread IV

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List of second interviews so far:
Chiefs Assistant GM Mike Borgonzi
Bucs Assistant GM John Spytek
Bears Assistant GM Ian Cunningham
Colts Assistant GM Ed Dodds
Bills Director of Player Personnel Terrance Gray
Packers VP of Player Personnel Jon-Eric Sullivan
 
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Vol8188 said:
Fake news. I was told on here that the fact he didn’t take a job immediately after being fired last season was proof no one wanted him
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Lol what? I recall several on here convincing themselves he'd be hired within 15 minutes if we let him go. The fact it happened a year later isn't some "gotcha", he was always gonna get another shot somewhere. Never mind the fact that it's New England of all places where he is still highly regarded and has a good relationship with the owner.

That said, I am legitimately happy for him, and I'll be curious to see how he does in Foxboro. He needs to do absolutely everything he can to get the most out of Drake Maye. Competing for that division against Josh Allen is gonna be a lot different than the heyday of the Belichick era where they could sleepwalk into a 1st round bye.

Part of me sincerely hopes that he learned from his time here and doesn't simply hire a bunch of buddies and yes men.
 
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CardsNVols said:
Lol what? I recall several on here convincing themselves he'd be hired within 15 minutes if we let him go. The fact it happened a year later isn't some "gotcha", he was always gonna get another shot somewhere. Never mind the fact that it's New England of all places where he is still highly regarded and has a good relationship with the owner.

That said, I am legitimately happy for him, and I'll be curious to see how he does in Foxboro. He needs to do absolutely everything he can to get the most out of Drake Maye. Competing for that division against Josh Allen is gonna be a lot different than the heyday of the Belichick era where they could sleepwalk into a 1st round bye.

Part of me sincerely hopes that he learned from his time here and doesn't simply hire a bunch of buddies and yes men.
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There’s very few nfl jobs. No matter how great a coach is, they’ll likely sit at least a season if they’re looking for an NFL job.

Regardless it was dumb for some on here (I bumped a post yesterday) to claim it was proof that no one wanted him
 
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Vol8188 said:
There’s very few nfl jobs. No matter how great a coach is, they’ll likely sit at least a season if they’re looking for an NFL job.

Regardless it was dumb for some on here (I bumped a post yesterday) to claim it was proof that no one wanted him
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I still don’t think he was necessarily the problem. He was put in a very bad position by some truly awful draft picks and personnel decisions by Jon Robinson. Enough so that his firing seemed inevitable, whether it happened in 23, 24, or 25. Vrabel and the Titans had a solid run, but it was a doomed marriage.
 
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superdave1984 said:
So you are fine with great stats and then folding in the playoffs? Dak  needs a strong run game and great weapons in order to succeed. He cannot carry the team when it needs him to. He cannot raise his game when the stakes are highest. You would want that plus his $60mil salary?
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His postseason stats are really good. The “player/coach x can’t win the big game” is one of the dumbest arguments out there.

Salaries are negotiable. We don’t have to take all of it, but we have plenty of cap room if needed
 
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superdave1984 said:
So you are fine with great stats and then folding in the playoffs? Dak  needs a strong run game and great weapons in order to succeed. He cannot carry the team when it needs him to. He cannot raise his game when the stakes are highest. You would want that plus his $60mil salary?
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I'm not a huge fan of Dak but he could do better someplace like Nashville where there isn't nearly as much pressure and spotlight. That being said I would not want to take on his contract.
 
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Vol8188 said:
His postseason stats are really good. The “player/coach x can’t win the big game” is one of the dumbest arguments out there.

Salaries are negotiable. We don’t have to take all of it, but we have plenty of cap room if needed
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People said the same stuff about Stafford. Gets in the right spot with the right HC/staff and wins at high levels. Said the same stuff about Goff. Gets in the right spot with the right HC/staff and wins at high levels. Saying the save stuff about Baker, etc. etc. Titans fans only have to look at what happened with Tannehill and the success he brought for a few years in the right system and roster for him.

Get the seasoned guy who can still win, build the roster, pick the future QB with upside in mid rounds that can execute the scheme, and go build a winning org as the stadium gets ready to come on line.
 
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Vol8188 said:
His postseason stats are really good. The “player/coach x can’t win the big game” is one of the dumbest arguments out there.

Salaries are negotiable. We don’t have to take all of it, but we have plenty of cap room if needed
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The stat that matters is his record against good teams and in the playoffs. Maybe it is coaching to a degree, but I just don't believe he has what it takes to take a team to the super bowl. His first season ( granted he was a rookie) he had the best o-line, top 5 WR group and the best RB in football at the time. And when it mattered, he didn't have it. Same story year after year. Even with really good players around him, he did not win in the playoffs. Out of 32 starting QB in the NFL, I would rank him around 12-15.
As for salary, I doubt Jerry would pay a big chunk of it for the Titans. He might, but I doubt it. Plus Dak would have to agree to any trade.
 
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superdave1984 said:
So you are fine with great stats and then folding in the playoffs? Dak  needs a strong run game and great weapons in order to succeed. He cannot carry the team when it needs him to. He cannot raise his game when the stakes are highest. You would want that plus his $60mil salary?
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1. The Cowboys would never make that trade due to the cap ramifications. But if they did, we wouldn't owe him 60/year.

2. Peyton had the choke label until he didn't. The Cowboys as a whole are a mess and have been since the mid 90s. It's unfair to put it all on him. He's also balled out in a few playoff games but the defense let him down.

3. Dak would instantly be the best QB we've ever seen.
 
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Carp said:
1. The Cowboys would never make that trade due to the cap ramifications. But if they did, we wouldn't owe him 60/year.

2. Peyton had the choke label until he didn't. The Cowboys as a whole are a mess and have been since the mid 90s. It's unfair to put it all on him. He's also balled out in a few playoff games but the defense let him down.

3. Dak would instantly be the best QB we've ever seen.
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Best qb since McNair, but not best we've seen in 3-4 decades
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Best qb since McNair, but not best we've seen in 3-4 decades
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I love McNair. But he really only only had about 3 year stretch of upper tier play. He was bad early in his career and there was a lot of chatter about the Titans moving on from him before that SB run in 1999.

Warren Moon was pretty terrific too, but I was meaning more the best QB the Tennessee Titans have ever seen.
 
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Carp said:
I love McNair. But he really only only had about 3 year stretch of upper tier play. He was bad early in his career and there was a lot of chatter about the Titans moving on from him before that SB run in 1999.

Warren Moon was pretty terrific too, but I was meaning more the best QB the Tennessee Titans have ever seen.
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I am going to take Steve over Dak.

But, would be the top-2 as a Titan.

As an Oiler, yes, Warren better than both.

Hard to be a good QB within the Adams family
 
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Carp said:
I love McNair. But he really only only had about 3 year stretch of upper tier play. He was bad early in his career and there was a lot of chatter about the Titans moving on from him before that SB run in 1999.

Warren Moon was pretty terrific too, but I was meaning more the best QB the Tennessee Titans have ever seen.
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McNair made the Super Bowl....
McNair won a share of MVP, which is absurd by the way.....

Dak would arguably be the most talented QB the Titans could have in some time, but there is nothing on resumê in the league to say he would be the best QB the Titans would have on the roster "we have ever seen"

For the record, i think the Titans would be idiots to not reach out to Dallas if they ultimately sign Deion to see what they could do in a trade.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
McNair made the Super Bowl....
McNair won a share of MVP, which is absurd by the way.....

Dak would arguably be the most talented QB the Titans could have in some time, but there is nothing on resumê in the league to say he would be the best QB the Titans would have on the roster "we have ever seen"

For the record, i think the Titans would be idiots to not reach out to Dallas if they ultimately sign Deion to see what they could do in a trade.
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They got a history of being a bunch of knuckleheads
 
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