The Problems with Trans-ideology

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Of the remaining respondents, nearly 12% considered themselves bisexual, just over 3% were either gay or lesbian and 9% marked “other” — which could include those who identify as pansexual or asexual or have “questioned” their sexuality.
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20% though

But the uptick in queer youth may not mean that fewer people are heterosexual — rather, it indicates that more people are comfortable with being openly honest about their sexual orientation and identities.
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McDad said:
Homosexuality has been around for millennia. It seems reasonable that amount of time people have felt mis-gendered would be similar.
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Wouldn't the fact that a trait (homosexuality) that does move the human pieces forward, make a arguement for homosexuality being a choice??? Given we know how evolution works...curious on thoughts
 
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GroverCleveland said:
Oh, I agree. Homosexuality (and homosexual behavior) exists across nature based on studies I've seen quoted and observations growing up on the farm. Shut boar hogs up by themselves and the less dominant one is going to have a sore rear-end, but turn them loose with a bunch of sows and they go back to doing what 100% red-blooded boar hogs are designed to do.

Just get the feeling it is not as truly prevalent as it is publicly extolled to be. For example, it was said for years that the true homosexual rate for humans was just under 10%, but results of studies posited it was really only 4%-5% which paralleled observations of other mammal species. Don't ask me to link studies. Cannot recall the articles I read or where, but do seem to recall they were pretty much of an academic nature, not in a religious magazine or such.
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Gay for the stay isn’t exactly being a homosexual.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Wouldn't the fact that a trait (homosexuality) that does move the human pieces forward, make a arguement for homosexuality being a choice??? Given we know how evolution works...curious on thoughts
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Infertility doesn’t move the human species forward, think that’s a choice too?
 
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NashVol11 said:
It was fake lol, shocking Maher was full of it. 18% includes a bunch of categories beyond lesbian

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Contagion? CDC survey shows nearly 18% of teen girls say they are lesbian, bisexual, or non-heterosexual

More teens are reporting their sexual identity as gay, lesbian or bisexual, a survey from the Centers for Disease Control shows. And the number is on the rise, especially rapidly with girls. Between 2015 and 2019, the percentage of 15- to 17-year-olds who said they identified as...
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Don't believe that was one of the articles I read, but the ones I did read were very similar in their quotes and seemed to reference the same CDC report. Either I mis-remembered (it has been years) the percentage of homosexuality reported for females (or simply remembered what I thought Bill had said) but I was going off my recollection, not doing a research thesis. But the odd thiing is you laugh and claim it is "fake" while providing the link to an article. How did you draw that conclusion because it is not obvious from what I could see it is fake based on what you provided?

I did look up some CDC numbers on behavioral studies from 2021. The number of girls identifying as non-heterosexual is around 38%. My original point still stands.

Table 4: Number and percentage of students, by sexual identity — United States and selected U.S. sites, Youth Risk Behavior Surveys, 2021

Table 4: Number and percentage of students, by sexual identity — United States and selected U.S. sites, Youth Risk Behavior Surveys, 2021
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GroverCleveland said:
Don't believe that was one of the articles I read, but the ones I did read were very similar in their quotes and seemed to reference the same CDC report. Either I mis-remembered (it has been years) the percentage of homosexuality reported for females (or simply remembered what I thought Bill had said) but I was going off my recollection, not doing a research thesis. But the odd thiing is you laugh and claim it is "fake" while providing the link to an article. How did you draw that conclusion because it is not obvious from what I could see it is fake based on what you provided?

I did look up some CDC numbers on behavioral studies from 2021. The number of girls identifying as non-heterosexual is around 38%. My original point still stands.

Table 4: Number and percentage of students, by sexual identity — United States and selected U.S. sites, Youth Risk Behavior Surveys, 2021

Table 4: Number and percentage of students, by sexual identity — United States and selected U.S. sites, Youth Risk Behavior Surveys, 2021
www.cdc.gov www.cdc.gov
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Say 20% lesbian, provide a link that says 3.7% lesbian and then say “my point still stands,” haha ok. There is more bisexuality among girls, which probably has a lot to do with the fact that it’s much more socially acceptable to be bi as a girl than as a guy
 
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NashVol11 said:
Say 20% lesbian, provide a link that says 3.7% lesbian and then say “my point still stands,” haha ok. There is more bisexuality among girls, which probably has a lot to do with the fact that it’s much more socially acceptable to be bi as a girl than as a guy
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Would you care for me to provide you with a private email and we can discuss this more bluntly?

You are deliberately misquoting parts of what I said and obviously not understanding the gist of what @McDad, @hog88 and I were discussing. And yes, it does still stand within the context of that discussion. Sexual behaviors/identifications are reportedly changing. Now, I'm through with responding to your dumb ass.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Well, the bathroom problem just got really real.

Looks like Nex was biologically born female (Dagny) and is non-binary. Sounds like they got beat up really bad by a few girls in a girl's bathroom at an Oklahoma high school, and died that night in their sleep. Death has been ruled "not from trauma" which is a hell of a coincidence.

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Death of Nex Benedict - Wikipedia

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Girls can be absolutely evil to each other.
 
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GroverCleveland said:
Would you care for me to provide you with a private email and we can discuss this more bluntly?

You are deliberately misquoting parts of what I said and obviously not understanding the gist of what @McDad, @hog88 and I were discussing. And yes, it does still stand within the context of that discussion. Sexual behaviors/identifications are reportedly changing. Now, I'm through with responding to your dumb ass.
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“Deliberately misquoting” lol this is what you said and it was flat wrong, unambiguously. There are also plenty of lesbians who have children so the hand-wringing about “reproduction” is overblown as well. Glad you’re done telling me how being flat-out wrong is actually not wrong with “context” that doesn’t change anything

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Thought of another thing going that makes me wonder about what the ramifications are. Have read that some studies show just under 20% of teenage girls claim to be "lesbian." Only about 4-5% of boys make the corresponding claim. We're talking about reproduction, the most potent force of life, being messed around with and the FAFO with Mother Nature results could be very, very ugly.
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McDad said:
Dysphoria has existed for millennia. It is much more prevalent compared to historical numbers in our society now.
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McDad said:
Homosexuality has been around for millennia. It seems reasonable that amount of time people have felt mis-gendered would be similar.
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Do anthropology records support the bold outside of spiritual/religious examples like shamans and 2-spirit Native Americans?

Granted, we can only go back the approximate 6 thousand year written record for what I'm asking, but I've never heard about Greek literature discussing dysphoria like they do gays and lesbians, but I'm certainly no historian. Wouldn't dysphoria be just as prevalent in their writings though? Is it?

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We are unique in many ways. However, this dysphoria has only appeared to be a real issue over the last two-three decades has it not?
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With the context gender dysphoria is classified now, that's my impression. The APA (American Psychiatric Association) has decided not to label it a mental illness but they certainly don't acknowledge any spiritual precursors.
 
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MemphisVol77 said:
Do anthropology records support the bold outside of spiritual/religious examples like shamans and 2-spirit Native Americans?

Granted, we can only go back the approximate 6 thousand year written record for what I'm asking, but I've never heard about Greek literature discussing dysphoria like they do gays and lesbians, but I'm certainly no historian. Wouldn't dysphoria be just as prevalent in their writings though? Is it?


With the context gender dysphoria is classified now, that's my impression. The APA (American Psychiatric Association) has decided not to label it a mental illness but they certainly don't acknowledge any spiritual precursors.
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Those are good questions, tbh. I dont think they thought about gender fluidity or dysphoria. But I thought I read years ago about a niche group of men and women who pretended (dress, behavior, social status) to be women and vice versa.
 
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