The Problems with Trans-ideology

It would seem like the easy solution, is the easy solution... the IOC should just do testing which they probably already do and add third party verification. The people that don't want chicks with dicks beating up women get what they want. The people that get upset because a female is wrongly blamed for being male will get what they want.

In essence, the IOC is the problem which can be easily remedied if they choose to do so.

Is there any other issue here?
 
None of them lost scholarships and none of them were on the podium either, you’re mad that Riley Gaines was tied for 5th instead of solo 5th? Lol
Her placing in the event or events is immaterial to the discussion. Any female athlete should not have to compete against a biological male in a female sport. That was the case. No amount of arguing or ridicule from you towards her stance can change that. That male could compete in a male sport. Pretty simple.
 
Meanwhile you sock sniffers are googling images of Khelif's genitals on your own steam. Lol.

I'd love if anonymity broke down on the internet for a day and we could get a rundown of everyone's search history. I imagine it'd be a hilarious day.
Sadly I'm more worried about my calculator history
 


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Like I said, even the chromosome stuff is generally hearsay and pretty suspect at that


The IBA disqualified her based on a gender test that says she has XY chromosomes which is against their rules. That is not hearsay.
 
Genetic male. You posted a dumb article a few weeks back about how this has a negative impact on black women. Every “woman” listed was actually a man. He was one of the ones listed. I can bump the post if you’ve forgot

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Exactly. He is a MaleXY.

Period. Nothing more to discuss there...though some here would surely love to argue with a dozen people indefinitely about it.

There are exactly 2 genders. Other than the tiny fraction of a % of people who are hermaphrodite. For the 500th time:

MaleXY

FemaleXX

Anything beyond that is not gender (sex). You are born either MaleXY or FemaleXX...the other stuff is all about lifestyles and preferences. Which absolutely nobody gives a damn about besides the person in question.

The real question is when are the normally level headed gay/lesbian folks gonna kick these "trans" folks to the curb? Maybe when they add the letter for child molesters yall can kick both of them. Theres already 1 global organization making policy about "minor attracted persons" so it will likely be soon that the baby rapers want to tack another letter on the LGB... acronym. Just a matter of time. Hopefully the rational and respected gay community seizes that opportunity to distance themselves from these radical fringe elements of society trying to ride their coattails. I don't know of any posters here that are against gay/lesbian folks, and hopefully nobody cares what goes on in other folks bedrooms as long as both people are consenting adults. This "trans" and pedo stuff is a different matter altogether though. If I was a normal gay person, I would be distancing myself from these delusional folks at every opportunity. Hopefully that happens soon.
 
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Science, ladies and gentlemen.

Well, we don't go through life sending everything in for testing. I assume my cat is a cat as it looks like a cat. In this case, there is a simple solution.... release the test results they have and in the future have 3rd party verification.

The IOC already knows these aren't women.
 
If you have XY chromosomes…you’re male.
Why do you guys keep denying that?

She’s excelling because she’s a man. That’s why despite being insanely rare in the general public, this condition appears to be over represented among athletes competing as women

Ooof.

I’m denying it because it’s facts that she was born a woman. A woman with a rare condition isn’t a biological man 💀. That’s dumb as hell. The lady that loss loss because she boxed like a moron and exposed her face. Other women without this condition didn’t have a problem beating her in the last Olympics.
 
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Well, we don't go through life sending everything in for testing. I assume my cat is a cat as it looks like a cat. In this case, there is a simple solution.... release the test results they have and in the future have 3rd party verification.

The IOC already knows these aren't women.

I like the part where deeply qualified individuals such as yourself keep adding more loopholes in the name of maintaining your idea of integrity in women's sports.

It's a pleasant change from *****ing on bounce passes and layups when WNBA discourse occurs.
 
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I like the part where deeply qualified individuals such as yourself keep adding more loopholes in the name of maintaining your idea of integrity in women's sports.

It's a pleasant change from *****ing on bounce passes and layups when WNBA discourse occurs.

I don't think I am deeply qualified nor does it take a deeply qualified person to figure any of this out.

maintaining your idea of integrity in women's sports

What idea is that?
 
And if the XY male in question has a functional uterus and vagina, and gives birth to a fertilized egg from another?

Did a man just give birth?
This is my whole point about being a much more complex than we want to believe. We're talking maybe 1% of the population being intersex, but it's still complex.

I mean, we could have a legit supermodel with all female equipment and a Y chromosome some guys in here would jerk off to. Would learning she has a Y chromosome change things?
 
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Yes sir thank you sir your authority is recognized. I will not post again without a tagging you to make sure that you approve of what I post thank you.

You know this is a free service, and the staff isn't really paid? Maybe be less of an ungrateful dick and don't post pictures of what you think are testicles when you know, despite your limited reading comprehension, that it's not allowed on here.

I don't always agree with pj or his enforcement when it comes to my beautiful tapestries of vulgarity I generously weave for everyone here, but I'm not going to act like a little bitch every time I'm slapped on the wrist (and it is quite frequent).

Maybe go somewhere else if you don't like it here.
 
Something else to add (of which I was not previously aware) is some intersex folks with female anatomy (uterus) and a Y chromosome can conceive, bear, and deliver children. Would these folks be considered men?

I did not know this gcb. So this is a hermaphrodite in some cases right? Rather than a male. I understand this is a tiny fraction of 1% of people... but if this person has functional uterus etc and can bear children, yet has a vestigial penis( which may have been removed too) then i would think this person is a female but their hormone levels would need to be monitored carefully. Especially through the puberty years when big changes in muscle mass and bone density occur. Knowing this, i think that the few intersex folks that were born different should be evaluated in a fair and common sense manner when determining their eligibility. Some are probably built like women they compete against which is fine. Those who are built like grown men such as Mr. Thomas should not be allowed IMO. Thanks for your post. You know that i respect and value your opinion bud.
 
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The IBA disqualified her based on a gender test that says she has XY chromosomes which is against their rules. That is not hearsay.
Yes it is. The IBA specifically didn’t say what their test was nor that she had XY chromosomes, that was just one guy editorializing separately as he also said people were “tricking” them, most of which is addressed in the post you quoted if you read it
 
It’s also important to know that im not denying any “biological advantage” of course she has that. But it’s factually wrong to call her a him. This is not a trans woman born a biological male who decided they wanted to be a woman.
 
I did not know this gcb. So this is a hermaphrodite in some cases right? Rather than a male. I understand this is a tiny fraction of 1% of people... but if this person has functional uterus etc and can bear children, yet has a vestigial penis( which may have been removed too) then i would think this person is a female but their hormone levels would need to be monitored carefully. Especially through the puberty years when big changes in muscle mass and bone density occur. Knowing this, i think that the few intersex folks that were born different should be evaluated in a fair and common sense manner when determining their eligibility. Some are probably built like women they compete against which is fine. Those who are built like grown men such as Mr. Thomas should not be allowed IMO. Thanks for your post. You know that i respect and value your opinion bud.
I was wrong about the conception part, Marcus. But they can bear and deliver children if they have a uterus. My whole point is this is complex. It doesn't mean I necessarily believe they should compete with women. But calling them men is not entirely accurate, imo.

I'm learning about this as I go. It's fascinating from an academic perspective.
 
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“The short(ish) version is that she's a cis woman who been competing for years against other women, and there was no issue, including at the 2020 Olympics. Never any question of her gender or testosterone levels, no articles, no headlines, no commentary from her opponents, nothing. She doesn't even have a particularly stellar record, though she's been improving in recent years.

She was even tested at the 2022 World Championships and they didn't find any problems. She took the silver medal without incident.

Up until the 2023 World Championships - when she beat a Russian boxer.

Quick backstory on the IBA, the boxing organization that tested her and oversees the Boxing World Championships: it's been in contention with the IOC for years for issues of corruption and concerns over refereeing and judging, but things have gotten worse over the past few years. The IOC was concerned about the IBA's complete financial dependence on their sponsor: Russian-owned Gazprom. The IBA also elected a corrupt Russian president in 2020, and in 2022 they (wrongly) declared his re-election opponent ineligible, so he won an uncontested re-election. Multiple countries including the US and UK boycotted the 2023 World Championships because the IBA suspended Ukraine and un-suspended Russia and Belarus in 2022, against IOC guidelines. All of this ultimately resulted in the IOC severing ties with the IBA, which hasn't happened with any sport in decades. They f***ed up so bad that the IOC may drop boxing altogether; another organization has risen up and is attempting to replace the IBA in order to save boxing at the Olympics.

Anyway. Imane Khelif competes in the World Championships in 2022, undergoes testing, no eligibility issues, takes the silver medal. She competes in 2023, no eligibility issues. Gets to the Round of 16, beats a Russian boxer...suddenly, she gets tested again and based on the results of that test AND her test from 2022, they declared her ineligible.

The IBA never said what kind of test it was, just that it wasn't a testosterone test, nor did they explain the results, citing privacy. In an interview with Russian state-owned media, the Russian president of the IBA said that they did a DNA test and found that Khelif had XY chromosomes, but again...look at the source, the audience, the track record of corruption, the timing...

Plus, they did this test in 2022 and didn't have any issue with the results? They used the 2022 test as part of their basis for disqualifying her - even though they allowed her to compete in 2023, up until she beat a Russian athlete.

So there's no evidence that she has higher testosterone. She competed in the 2020 Olympics without incident, even when other female athletes with high testosterone were withdrawn. And the IBA didn't administer a testosterone test.

There's also no other information, testing, questions, or anything that she has talked about that would allude to any sort of chromosomal or hormonal difference. She identifies as a woman and always has.

People are diagnosing her with all kinds of conditions but there’s actually no evidence for any of it aside from one vague test that an extremely corrupt organization associated with Russia subjected her to when she beat a Russian athlete, the results of which were only discussed by the Russian president of the corrupt organization when he talked to Russian media.”
 
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