The Problems with Trans-ideology

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gcbvol said:
You have clearly stated multiple times "Y chromosome equals man" with no equivocation. Seems to go beyond sports.
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Yeah, it does equal man. But I’ve never said any man has to live a specific way. That seems to be were you and I are off track here. There’s plenty of biological men who don’t wish to live as men. That’s their decision.

I just don’t think they should compete against women
 
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NashVol11 said:
She was born a woman and has been a woman her whole life and like I said, the XY thing is one quote from one person that was later refuted. There’s not really anything backing up that it’s “a guy” regardless of how many times you keep repeating it
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No it was not, it was born a male from what I read. Which is why he probably withdrew his appeal. But mostly immaterial.

So what is your problem here, I guess you have a problem with the Olympics for not doing testing?????????
 
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n_huffhines said:
It's the most parodied work of art in history, and you didn't get insulted by anybody doing it except the trans people who were re-enacting another famous feast. I mean, look at this sexy, scantily clad Jesus stand-in here. Don't remember anybody complaining ever about this stuff. House is an atheist standimg in for Jesus.

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1. “Most parodied work of art” says who? I say the Mona Lisa is more parodied.
2. You have no idea what insults me and what does not.
3. “Re-enacting another feast” - baloney…the Olympics show even put a halo on the central figure suggesting divinity

So your whole post is nonsense, just another effort to convince people to ignore the obvious, which in this case was a blatant affront to the religion of a few billion people.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
No it was not, it was born a male from what I read. Which is why he probably withdrew his appeal. But mostly immaterial.

So what is your problem here, I guess you have a problem with the Olympics for not doing testing?????????
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You mean to tell me that you keep spamming “what’s the issue” and the real issue is that you read something stupid that was wrong? Yikes
 
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n_huffhines said:
You understood my question about vagina + Y chromosome and passed on answering, so you are unwhittingly confirming it is complicated.

I still don't know what you're asking. Are you asking if I think the Olympic ruling is fair? IDK and it's complicated.

I guess maybe the abswer you are looking for is that my issue is with buffoons who are looking at a world event that perfectly delineates how complicated this question is and somehow their takeaway is "it's not complex"
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Its a male, there is nothing complex about it nor is anyone avoiding it.

You seem to have a major issue but I don't know what that is. There isn't anything complex about it.
 
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NashVol11 said:
You mean to tell me that you keep spamming “what’s the issue” and the real issue is that you read something stupid that was wrong? Yikes
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Its immaterial, you are trying to make it complex. He withdrew his appeal, he's a male, but immaterial really.

You're not explaining what the issue is?
 
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NashVol11 said:
“She was born a woman”
“Well, I read that she was born a man”
“Then what you read was wrong”
“Well, it’s immaterial”

Lmfao
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Its immaterial. Meaning what is the issue, are you just mad that people are calling him male? Is that your issue? Well than the problem would be with the Olympics as they have simple way of determining that.... but you won't say what the issue is.... I can't tell you what your issue is.

As far as I know he withdrew his appeal the last time it questioned, Idk but I feel good going with that because it looks like a dude. Its immaterial though to the discussion generally speaking because you don't seem mad I'm calling him a guy... .you don't know either.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Its immaterial. Meaning what is the issue, are you just mad that people are calling him male? Is that your issue? Well than the problem would be with the Olympics as they have simple way of determining that.... but you won't say what the issue is.... I can't tell you what your issue is.

As far as I know he withdrew his appeal the last time it questioned, Idk but I feel good going with that because it looks like a dude.
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The Olympics determined she’s a woman too 😭 seems like the issue is that you have no clue what you’re talking about
 
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NashVol11 said:
The Olympics determined she’s a woman too 😭 seems like the issue is that you have no clue what you’re talking about
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The Olympics isn't doing the testing which is what the discussion is about. Again, what is your issue?

You aren't making any sense. What is your actual issue?
 
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NashVol11 said:
She was born a woman and has been a woman her whole life and like I said, the XY thing is one quote from one person that was later refuted. There’s not really anything backing up that it’s “a guy” regardless of how many times you keep repeating it
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Gtk. Wasn't even sure it was possible
 
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LSU-SIU said:
The Olympics isn't doing the testing which is what the discussion is about. Again, what is your issue?

You aren't making any sense. What is your actual issue?
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I don’t doubt that you are confused lol, that seems obvious. What do you think the issue is? If you’re arguing because you read that she was born a man, then one issue is that you should find better sources
 
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gcbvol said:
Why would the second question not matter? It directly supports this being more complex than you make it out to be.

I did research further and was wrong on the conception piece. An intersex person may possess a uterus and ovaries while having a Y chromosome, but they are sterile. So while they can carry a pregnancy to term, but cannot naturally conceive.
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They can carry and give birth? So they would be the “birth mother” in that scenario.

I do not ascribe to the notion of “birthing person” or “birth parent” - only mothers give birth.

A surrogate female does not provide the egg. Does not conceive the baby. She carries and births the baby - and we all would consider her the “birth mother”.
 
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NashVol11 said:
I don’t doubt that you are confused lol, that seems obvious. What do you think the issue is? If you’re arguing because you read that she was born a man, then one issue is that you should find better sources
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I feel fine calling it a male at this point but really immaterial as some major issue. But you are doing a bunch of arguing and I don't really understand the position.

Are you just mad because people are claiming its a dude and that is the issue? (you seem kind of pissed off... just saying)

If so, how the IOC can fix this is pretty simple... test. Which is what people are really saying in this thread.

Wouldn't that fix your problem and their problem in the future?
 
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LSU-SIU said:
I feel fine calling it a male at this point but really immaterial as some major issue. But you are doing a bunch of arguing and I don't really understand the position.

Are you just mad because people are claiming its a dude and that is the issue? (you seem kind of pissed off... just saying)

If so, how the IOC can fix this is pretty simple... test. Which is what people are really saying in this thread.

Wouldn't that fix your problem and their problem in the future?
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I don’t like grifters starting a worldwide frenzy about a “biological man” without stopping to confirm whether that’s true. Even your notion of “feel fine calling it” shouldn’t be enough to justify the behavior that we saw online yesterday (not from you specifically) transvestigating her and calling it “pure evil.”

I think the IOC does test for testosterone, and I’m fine with their testing. There wasn’t some grave injustice that happened during this boxing match, the Italian boxer just wasn’t very good and lost/quit against a boxer that plenty of other women have beaten. The outrage was almost entirely manufactured by the LibsOfTikTok types
 
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NashVol11 said:
How many women have lost scholarships to trans athletes? People are now throwing weird outrage at women who were born women like Imane Khelif today
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Whoever gave up a spot to let Will Thomas become Lia Thomas and tie Riley Gaines in the NCAA. And whoever placed after their tie who didn’t get the spot up.
 
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NashVol11 said:
I don’t like grifters starting a worldwide frenzy about a “biological man” without stopping to confirm whether that’s true. Even your notion of “feel fine calling it” shouldn’t be enough to justify the behavior that we saw online yesterday (not from you specifically) transvestigating her and calling it “pure evil.”

I think the IOC does test for testosterone, and I’m fine with their testing. There wasn’t some grave injustice that happened during this boxing match, the Italian boxer just wasn’t very good and lost/quit against a boxer that plenty of other women have beaten. The outrage was almost entirely manufactured by the LibsOfTikTok types
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Why would they test for testosterone as a determination of biological sex? Most likely the IOC already knows to be honest.

Testosterone is a whole other subject.

I'm not sure what is about "outrage" statements. It seems like to me, you're problem and theirs can be solved by testing and third party verification.

Whether the boxers are good or not is not what their issue is, I'm simply trying to find out your issue(s).... but I have to say I don't really see much of anything.
 
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Majors said:
Whoever gave up a spot to let Will Thomas become Lia Thomas and tie Riley Gaines in the NCAA. And whoever placed after their tie who didn’t get the spot up.
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None of them lost scholarships and none of them were on the podium either, you’re mad that Riley Gaines was tied for 5th instead of solo 5th? Lol
 
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