The Problems with Trans-ideology

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NashVol11 said:
This has been answered 10 times. Creating a worldwide outrage trying to transvestigate someone who isn’t trans is trash behavior. Calling a woman born with a vagina “a man” based on virtually nothing is also trash behavior that potentially puts someone in danger.

Even by your standards, the best you can do is “it’s disputed” which means what happened yesterday was stupid and irresponsible, potentially dangerous to Khelif, and it came from the usual suspects who are doing that same thing to random citizens all the time.

“What’s the issue” with putting an international angry spotlight on an individual person for something unverified is such an incredibly stupid question, and you keep asking it after it’s been answered repeatedly
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There is simple solution for that, its called test results. So, what you are saying the IOC should start releasing test results?

You're getting upset about people complaining about a male beating up females, so it would seem like you would want the IOC to take immediate action?

Whether the guy is a trans or not, is not very material.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
I'm fine with admitting I was wrong...your the one hurling insults etc on here...seems to me you gotta few more steps to work on...if you need help I know a great program in KY
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You're doing the same thing, just behind a thin veil of pity.

I'm very successful for my age, in great shape, and fulfilled. I party from time to time to celebrate these good fortunes.
 
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C-south said:
I mean seriously, the fact we have gender testing is absurd. Trannies and intersex have no business competing with just who they feel they should. I mean damn have some self awareness and realize life isn’t always fair. If anything push for a new category that allows you to compete with people that suffer from the same affliction.
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I don't watch the Olympics anymore anyway because all it is is another awards show for a bunch of pro athletes. I just don't feel all that proud and impressed when LeBron James steps on the podium to accept a gold medal. ymmv, and I know a lot of people like it. it just does nothing for me. And then there's the corruption with all the judged events. I don't care. i DO appreciate the skill they have, especially the gymnasts, but when they are judged, it takes something out of it. Bigger, faster, stronger events are interesting. But I think they should have a steroids division. Let's see how much someone can bench press while they are juicing. Keep them separate and give them a legitimate medal, but let's be above board and acknowledge that they are not naturally built athletes.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
There is simple solution for that, its called test results. So, what you are saying the IOC should start releasing test results?

You're getting upset about people complaining about a male beating up females, so it would seem like you would want the IOC to take immediate action?
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The only testing should be for doping. Gender should be a forgone conclusion long before it gets to this point. Hormone replacement isn’t the solution to make the playing field level either.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
I don't watch the Olympics anymore anyway because all it is is another awards show for a bunch of pro athletes. I just don't feel all that proud and impressed when LeBron James steps on the podium to accept a gold medal. ymmv, and I know a lot of people like it. it just does nothing for me. And then there's the corruption with all the judged events. I don't care. i DO appreciate the skill they have, especially the gymnasts, but when they are judged, it takes something out of it. Bigger, faster, stronger events are interesting. But I think they should have a steroids division. Let's see how much someone can bench press while they are juicing. Keep them separate and give them a legitimate medal, but let's be above board and acknowledge that they are not naturally built athletes.
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I’ve watched a little golf but that’s it.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
I don't watch the Olympics anymore anyway because all it is is another awards show for a bunch of pro athletes. I just don't feel all that proud and impressed when LeBron James steps on the podium to accept a gold medal. ymmv, and I know a lot of people like it. it just does nothing for me. And then there's the corruption with all the judged events. I don't care. i DO appreciate the skill they have, especially the gymnasts, but when they are judged, it takes something out of it. Bigger, faster, stronger events are interesting. But I think they should have a steroids division. Let's see how much someone can bench press while they are juicing. Keep them separate and give them a legitimate medal, but let's be above board and acknowledge that they are not naturally built athletes.
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The Olympics are definitely not what I grew up loving and couldn't wait for the next one.
 
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jp1 said:
Only one side of the discussion is outraged or terrified. That's hilarious to me.
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Lol. Outraged? Lol. When the pandering to mentally ill folks that make up less than 1% of the population stops that’s when you will see outrage.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Sure. If you implant a fertilized egg and that man then keeps that embryo inside of him until viable, sure.

But that’s a much different thing that what is typically meant by terms like “birth”, “conception”, etc.

It’s more a modern technological miracle than it is a point in favor of calling this person a woman.
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That may be close to impossible. Without the ability to produce the hormones necessary for developing and carrying a baby to term, it is highly improbable even one of those rare specimens could achieve the feat.

The chemical signaling and production is exceedingly complex and requires exquisite timing to produce a child.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
You're doing the same thing, just behind a thin veil of pity.

I'm very successful for my age, in great shape, and fulfilled. I party from time to time to celebrate these good fortunes.
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I'm honestly not doing anything as I have admitted I was wrong and owe nothing else your the one who keeps insulting me..I have a soft spot for people such as yourself .I'm happy your successful...I work with abused youths, most have some sort of addiction issues to deal with last trauma... thankfully I've never went that way dealing with mine but I have deep empathy for those that do..so my offer of help is genuine..
 
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LSU-SIU said:
There is simple solution for that, its called test results. So, what you are saying the IOC should start releasing test results?

You're getting upset about people complaining about a male beating up females, so it would seem like you would want the IOC to take immediate action?

Whether the guy is a trans or not, is not very material.
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The IOC doesn’t need to start releasing individuals’ health or DNA information. I’m not upset, it’s sad that people were this stupid and gullible and that lies at the feet of those spreading misinformation and those consuming it, not anyone else
 
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LSU-SIU said:
They should if you don't want chicks with dicks beating up women. (that is the end result)

I don't know about the rest as the IOC won't release the test and all there is.... it IBA stuff, they look like men. I see nothing wrong with calling them men at this point.
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But it’s not the end result, because this was a boxing match between two women. You really want to say otherwise and that’s fine, but it’s not based on anything concrete so it’s just making something up and whining about it
 
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Vol8188 said:
Sure. If you implant a fertilized egg and that man then keeps that embryo inside of him until viable, sure.

But that’s a much different thing that what is typically meant by terms like “birth”, “conception”, etc.

It’s more a modern technological miracle than it is a point in favor of calling this person a woman.
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I didn’t say conception. But it would certainly be birth.

The individual has a functioning womb to carry a human being in, and an intact vagina to birth it through.

Surrogates who do the exact same thing are referred to as “birth mothers”.
 
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85SugarVol said:
I didn’t say conception. But it would certainly be birth.

The individual has a functioning womb to carry a human being in, and an intact vagina to birth it through.

Surrogates who do the exact same thing are referred to as “birth mothers”.
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Honestly, I doubt it’s functioning. If I had to guess, through the miracle of modern medicine they were able to make it “function” long enough but that without the fertilized egg wouldn’t have been able to survive

But what does that have to do with this? I still don’t think Arnold should be fighting women, even if he did have a baby
 
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NashVol11 said:
But it’s not the end result, because this was a boxing match between two women. You really want to say otherwise and that’s fine, but it’s not based on anything concrete so it’s just making something up and whining about it
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Yes. Eventually that will be the case, its the whole reason why there is separation to start with. I'm not whining about it, as I mentioned a part of me wouldn't mind seeing the end result - I'm torn.

If what you say is correct than you should be actually be going with getting rid of category by sex completely - that is the end result anyway.
 
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