The Proof Is In How They Vote

[WoodsmanVol]

Your op said govt wants people to die. There was no detour you simply missed the turn

Another detour statement from you. At least you could quote where I said what you claim instead of lying.

Once again, my statement was: Whatever party you favor, rather than attacking each other, look at how they vote as opposed to being just sheeple or unthinking party automatons. Which is why I'm an independent voter. I'll start it off. If you or a family member has diabetes and require insulin injections, look to see if your elected Congressman/woman cares if you live or die. OK, seeing as how you insist on seeing the issue, continue, I'm out for reals now. If you ever get this right and want to know how your electeds vote as suggested, try this: Congressional Votes Database - GovTrack.us

 

[utvolpj]

Another detour statement from you. At least you could quote where I said what you claim instead of lying.

Once again, my statement was: Whatever party you favor, rather than attacking each other, look at how they vote as opposed to being just sheeple or unthinking party automatons. Which is why I'm an independent voter. I'll start it off. If you or a family member has diabetes and require insulin injections, look to see if your elected Congressman/woman cares if you live or die. OK, seeing as how you insist on seeing the issue, continue, I'm out for reals now. If you ever get this right and want to know how your electeds vote as suggested, try this: Congressional Votes Database - GovTrack.us

I did, you avoided it in favor of nonsense and fantasy land.

If you're the only one reading it a certain way it's very likely your wrong. Take the hint

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Price controls are never the answer.

Until we address the elephant in the room, the American healthcare system and by extension government/private insurance healthcare spending, won't fundamentally improve. I was in the pharmacy aisle few days ago and overheard a couple ladies picking up their insulin. I am sure they and their families would approve of this new price control legislation. Just conveniently ignore that they were conservatively tipping the scales at tree fiddy.

Your last sentence...

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Not for type 1

OK. You may have a point in that instance. We can nitpick and find exceptions to every rule.

 

[Wireless1]

Or an easy solution, provide a tax break to insulin producers, and allow fast tracking of new manufacturers (or new lines at existing)
Greed is a good thing when you open the pool.

 

[lawgator1]

OK. You may have a point in that instance. We can nitpick and find exceptions to every rule.

Type 1 is hardly an "exception." There are 1.9 million Americans with Type 1 diabetes. Last girlfriend I had developed that when she was very young, like nine years old, when her immune system went haywire.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Type 1 is hardly an "exception." There are 1.9 million Americans with Type 1 diabetes. Last girlfriend I had developed that when she was very young, like nine years old, when her immune system went haywire.

Yeah. 1.9 million compared to how many with Type 2?

You are trying to discredit my comment because it isn't all inclusive or cover every possible scenario. But the point is that in general (and I am openly admitting that it is a generalization), that there are cheaper and more effective treatments or practices that can reduce demand for insulin (which would lower the price).

 

[lawgator1]

Yeah. 1.9 million compared to how many with Type 2?

You are trying to discredit my comment because it isn't all inclusive or cover every possible scenario. But the point is that in general (and I am openly admitting that it is a generalization), that there are cheaper and more effective treatments or practices that can reduce demand for insulin (which would lower the price).

Sorry, just caught my eye because of knowing about her situation. No agenda.

 

[hog88]

I haven’t read the legislation so I don’t know how they pan on capping the cost at $35. Is it $35 is the most insurance can have as a co-pay or are they dictating that the pharmacy can’t charge more than $35 for a months prescription?

 

[DC_Vol]

There will always be people who insist on the worse, so I'm not surprised to be attacked for this. But it is OK, it's the human way, at least in human history. Meanwhile, for those who wish to keep track of how their elected officials vote on issues, here's a link. Again, political party notwithstanding, Congressional Votes Database - GovTrack.us

Those who just want to just denigrate, continue to do so, it certainly isn't in my or anyone else's power to stop from doing so. Besides, we can't all be expected to think the same way. Alternatively, if my posts tick you off, put me on IGNOREt. I'd understand, sometimes I annoy myself.

First, your posts don’t tick me off. I enjoy reading your material. I have never blocked anyone, and I started tomorrow you wouldn’t even make the long list.

Second, my apologies if you felt my post was just to criticize. I was actually pointing out what I thought was an interesting yin yang in your post. If you fail to see it, I don’t know what else to say about it.

Anyway, no hard feelings. I’d hit the cactus with you anytime you want.

 

[volinsd]

Just FYI, people are wrong about how much it costs to mfg insulin. I did it for 7 years or so. As a finished product, that is making the juice, building the device that its in, and final packaging....cost is roughly $1.75 to 2 depending on the specific insulin mix.

A 5 pack of insulin pens cost my mother $100 like 10 years ago.

It is a gigantic markup, however it costs a fortune in machinery and facilities at the same time.

Don't know the answer here....just wanted to let people know that this $10 to make it that I keep reading is nonsense.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

The DASH diet is high in potassium nitwit. I hope you’re not responsible for another person, it worries me.

It was because of me that my wife switched to pure carnivore. She used to eat the “things are good in moderation” way, kind of like you and other idiots suggested. I got her nothing but health problems. GERD. IBS. Bloating, weight gain and an overall feeling of sluggishness. Since switching to all meat however? All of that is gone. She has never been healthier.

But hey you keep on believing in the antiquated diet advice that was brought about by the sugar industry though.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

There will always be people who insist on the worse, so I'm not surprised to be attacked for this. But it is OK, it's the human way, at least in human history. Meanwhile, for those who wish to keep track of how their elected officials vote on issues, here's a link. Again, political party notwithstanding, Congressional Votes Database - GovTrack.us

Those who just want to just denigrate, continue to do so, it certainly isn't in my or anyone else's power to stop from doing so. Besides, we can't all be expected to think the same way. Alternatively, if my posts tick you off, put me on IGNOREt. I'd understand, sometimes I annoy myself.

You strike me as a person that believes that .gov somehow indicates trustworthy and researched information. Do you actually think that?

 

[OHvol40]

It was because of me that my wife switched to pure carnivore. She used to eat the “things are good in moderation” way, kind of like you and other idiots suggested. I got her nothing but health problems. GERD. IBS. Bloating, weight gain and an overall feeling of sluggishness. Since switching to all meat however? All of that is gone. She has never been healthier.

But hey you keep on believing in the antiquated diet advice that was brought about by the sugar industry though.

I’m sorry she went through that. Maybe some was predisposition?… but that’s not for me to say. Glad it resolved.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

First, your posts don’t tick me off. I enjoy reading your material. I have never blocked anyone, and I started tomorrow you wouldn’t even make the long list.
Second, my apologies if you felt my post was just to criticize. I was actually pointing out what I thought was an interesting yin yang in your post. If you fail to see it, I don’t know what else to say about it.
Anyway, no hard feelings. I’d hit the cactus with you anytime you want.

Thanks for clarifying. For my part, I try to admit when I honestly believe I'm wrong, so my sincere apologizes if I so grossly misunderstood your post. However, don't be surprised if I or anyone else misunderstands something later on. I once did a study of email and forum texts. It was found (not by me, people far smarter than I will ever be) that the absence of face to face communication with its accompanying cues of face expressions and body language, can cause discord. As a matter of fact, that's what gave birth to the widespread use of emoticons. We now have emojis. Back in my BBS on FidoNet days, it was emoticons. I sort of miss them because there were wery imaginative ones back then. In case you're of a generation that wonders, "What the heck is a BBS, FidoNet? What's an emoticon?" The link below will let you scope it out. Meanwhile, (ಥ﹏ಥ)

ʕ•́ᴥ•̀ʔっ♡ Emoticons

 

[WoodsmanVol]

You strike me as a person that believes that .gov somehow indicates trustworthy and researched information. Do you actually think that?

No, I don't, and if you were familiar with my posting history, you'd never imagine me that way. Given political and world history, who in their wrong mind, not mention their right mind, would ever consider any government trustworthy? And surely the fact I suggested people track how their elected officials voted to see if they had regard for their constituency should cue anyone that I'm saying you can't trust them. Plus, I have shared more than a few times that I am an independent voter, not to mention my Will Rogers quotes, who if you know of him, didn't have a high opinion of government, especially Congress members of either party.

 

[EasternVol]

Price controls are never the answer.

Until we address the elephant in the room, the American healthcare system and by extension government/private insurance healthcare spending, won't fundamentally improve. I was in the pharmacy aisle few days ago and overheard a couple ladies picking up their insulin. I am sure they and their families would approve of this new price control legislation. Just conveniently ignore that they were conservatively tipping the scales at tree fiddy.

Maybe we can include our farm subsidies in there with the elephant.

 

[TNVOLNAVY]

The elephant in the room.

 

[CardsNVols]

Politicians are very unwilling to do the right thing if someone on the other side of the aisle thought it up. They are more worried about opposing the other side than getting sh!t done. Republican - Democrat who gives a rat's behind? No difference.

This didn't start with the politicians, it started with the general dumbassery of Americans and the sports team politics we've embraced.

 

[Sea Ray]

Whatever party you favor, rather than attacking each other, look at how they vote as opposed to being just sheeple or unthinking party automatons. Which is why I'm an independent voter. I'll start it off. If you or a family member has diabetes and require insulin injections, look to see if your elected Congressman/woman cares if you live or die.

House votes to cap cost of insulin at $35, heads to Senate
Experts say it only costs drug companies $10 to manufacture.

"Congress could soon send to the president's desk a bill that would cap the cost of the lifesaving drug insulin at $35 per month -- a move that could significantly reduce and rein in out-of-pocket drug costs for millions of Americans with diabetes. The House approved the bill Thursday by a vote of 232-193, with 12 Republicans joining all Democrats in support."
(Source: House votes to cap cost of insulin at $35, heads to Senate)

The answer to a problem is rarely as simple as gov't controlling its price. In fact that's rarely the correct solution to a problem. Before voting on this, I'd need to know more, such as who will pay the costs over and above $35?

Diabetes is a huge American problem and it's largely self inflicted. I say that as the only member of my family of 5 who has not had blood glucose issues. I'm also the only one who's not an "emotional eater"

 

[WoodsmanVol]

The answer to a problem is rarely as simple as gov't controlling its price. In fact that's rarely the correct solution to a problem. Before voting on this, I'd need to know more, such as who will pay the costs over and above $35?
Diabetes is a huge American problem and it's largely self inflicted. I say that as the only member of my family of 5 who has not had blood glucose issues. I'm also the only one who's not an "emotional eater"

That's not the point of my origina

 

[WoodsmanVol]

The answer to a problem is rarely as simple as gov't controlling its price. In fact that's rarely the correct solution to a problem. Before voting on this, I'd need to know more, such as who will pay the costs over and above $35?
Diabetes is a huge American problem and it's largely self inflicted. I say that as the only member of my family of 5 who has not had blood glucose issues. I'm also the only one who's not an "emotional eater"

That's not the point of my original post. The point was I sought to encourage to keep track of how their elected officials voted to see if they exhibited voted in favor of their constituents or not. I provided a link for doing that.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Maybe we can include our farm subsidies in there with the elephant.

???

Can you add more context to that? There are a couple directions you can go with that, I'm just not sure where you are going with it.

 

[Sea Ray]

That's not the point of my original post. The point was I sought to encourage to keep track of how their elected officials voted to see if they exhibited voted in favor of their constituents or not. I provided a link for doing that.

All I saw was an ABC News link. Nowhere did it state which constituents would benefit from this

 

[EasternVol]

???

Can you add more context to that? There are a couple directions you can go with that, I'm just not sure where you are going with it.

Some say that subsidies of unhealthy foods lead us to consume them more than we otherwise would, contributing to our health issues.
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