The REAL Reason Why Ohio State Only Dropped 4 Places After Losing To Michigan

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DaddyChad said:
I think I have no idea. How NIU beat ND still mystifies me. They’re not even a good team.
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Yeah

That NIU loss is a head scratcher for sure. Indiana is playing with house money while experiencing the best football season in their history. I don't personally believe they have the horses to compete even in this first round with ND. If they do upset the Irish, then hats off to them.
 
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The fact will forever remain that the coaches poll and AP poll had Vols ranked ahead of OSU but the committee chose to go it on their own! (After following these polls all season).
 
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UT97Vol said:
Simple. Because the committee was controlled by the Big 10.

The committee chair being a Big 10 AD is the biggest conflict of interest I can imagine. There was no way he was going to allow a Big Ten team to have to play at an SEC venue - especially this one.

And every decision made demonstrates just how overtly and intentionally biased he was in terms of where he put teams and what their seeds were.
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Do you really think the Michigan AD wants to do Ohio State any favors?
 
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DaddyChad said:
Don’t care about “objective” power rankings. Both those programs would get stomped weekly in the SEC. I would say they’re equivalent to South Carolina but I think South Carolina is better than both those teams.
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Trust me here…Neither is getting bit**slapped by 3-4 tds to Ole Miss at home like USC did
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
Do you really think the Michigan AD wants to do Ohio State any favors?
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You lack vision and comprehension of these issues.

Whether he wants to or not he did. And not hard to figure out why.

1) He represents the Big 10.
2) The Big 10 will receive $12M for placing four teams in the playoff.
3) The Big 10 will receive $6M for each team that reaches the semis.
4) The Big 10 will receive another $6M for each team that reaches the championship game.
5) The Big 10 also gets $8M for the Oregon bye.

It's in both his own personal/professional interest as well as the league's interest to get as many teams to the semifinals as possible. ie. That means don't send any of his conference's teams to the SEC to play a first round game.

After spelling this out for you, I hope it's easier to understand now.
 
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Bottom line is that sitting AD of an FBS conference should never be allowed to chair this committee. It's an obvious and absurd conflict of interest given the limited number of at large selections and fact that four games are host campus venues.
 
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UT97Vol said:
You lack vision and comprehension of these issues.

Whether he wants to or not he did. And not hard to figure out why.

1) He represents the Big 10.
2) The Big 10 will receive $12M for placing four teams in the playoff.
3) The Big 10 will receive $6M for each team that reaches the semis.
4) The Big 10 will receive another $6M for each team that reaches the championship game.
5) The Big 10 also gets $8M for the Oregon bye.

It's in both his own personal/professional interest as well as the league's interest to get as many teams to the semifinals as possible. ie. That means don't send any of his conference's teams to the SEC to play a first round game.

After spelling this out for you, I hope it's easier to understand now.
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Why wouldn’t they make it to where no Big Teams can meet until the Semis then? They’re throwing away potential money by making Ohio State and Oregon have to go through each other. They also put their 3 best teams on the same side of the bracket, why not break them up so that 2 of their 3 best could meet in the championship? And why do all the people with no ties to the Big 10 just sit idly by while the Michigan man tries to push Ohio State deeper into the playoff? Why didn’t Indiana host? They’re one of only 2 P4 teams with one loss or less.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
Why wouldn’t they make it to where no Big Teams can meet until the Semis then? They’re throwing away potential money by making Ohio State and Oregon have to go through each other. They also put their 3 best teams on the same side of the bracket, why not break them up so that 2 of their 3 best could meet in the championship? And why do all the people with no ties to the Big 10 just sit idly by while the Michigan man tries to push Ohio State deeper into the playoff? Why didn’t Indiana host? They’re one of only 2 P4 teams with one loss or less.
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They would have if Texas wouldn't have lost to UGA. Georgia winning and Ariz St and Boise jumping just about everyone left them with very few options to avoid SEC road games. If Manuel would have put Ohio St in the 6 spot and Texas in the 7, it would have pushed Penn St and Indiana having to play in the first round. With the way the CCG played out there was no way to get all four teams in each of the four quadrants of the bracket.

And Indiana didn't get a home game because it's clear they probably don't even belong in the playoff. There would be no way for them to justify that.

Had Texas beat Georgia, we would be playing Georgia in Athens and Ohio St would be hosting SMU while Penn St hosted Clemson. That's what they wanted to do but UGA/Texas game screwed that up.
 
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The screw job was the ACC teams and Boise State. To me, the 3 seed should have went to Notre Dame (the highest ranked affiliated ACC team, they are not in the ACC but they played 5 of them and went 5-0. In previous playoff/BCS system, they could sub in for ACC Champion).

That pushes us up to 8 seed. Boise State being the 3 seed screwed us.
 
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DaddyChad said:
Don’t care about “objective” power rankings. Both those programs would get stomped weekly in the SEC. I would say they’re equivalent to South Carolina but I think South Carolina is better than both those teams.
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So your subjective (and largely biased) opinion means more than the others? Got it.
 
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UT97Vol said:
They would have if Texas wouldn't have lost to UGA. Georgia winning and Ariz St and Boise jumping just about everyone left them with very few options to avoid SEC road games. If Manuel would have put Ohio St in the 6 spot and Texas in the 7, it would have pushed Penn St and Indiana having to play in the first round. With the way the CCG played out there was no way to get all four teams in each of the four quadrants of the bracket.

And Indiana didn't get a home game because it's clear they probably don't even belong in the playoff. There would be no way for them to justify that.

Had Texas beat Georgia, we would be playing Georgia in Athens and Ohio St would be hosting SMU while Penn St hosted Clemson. That's what they wanted to do but UGA/Texas game screwed that up.
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It’s weird how that screwed things up since it was still well within their discretion to just do what they wanted.

Also weird how 4 people on the committee outweighed the 9 with no Big 10 ties, especially given that one of those 4 is a journalist who only has a connection to the Big 10 through her alma mater, and another is Mike Riley, who is more of an Oregon State guy and got unceremoniously fired by Nebraska.
 
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jasonvol18 said:
You guys have to look at this without our Orange glasses on. OSU played a close game in the Oregon game, vs US losing by 14 to GA. They lost a rivalry game to a 7-5 Much, vs US losing to 6-6 Arkansas. Their best win is against Penn St, who is #6 in the CFP. Our best win was against Ala, who didn't make the CFP. It sux, I would have paid whatever it cost to come watch a CFP Game in Neyland. But, when you look at what I posted, it CLEARLY shows why they got the home game and not us. It's our fault for losing to $hitty Arkansas and for taking a 14 pt loss to GA. Even though it was a 7 pt game with less than 3 mins left. Nobody is getting favoritism nor is anyone against us. It's very obvious why they got it over us. GBO!
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BS they lost to Michigan AT HOME…..we lost to Arkansas on the road….very big difference
 
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whobethis16 said:
So your subjective (and largely biased) opinion means more than the others? Got it.
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Routinely Big Ten teams are highly rated then when they play SEC teams even mediocre ones they get exposed. That’s not my opinion that’s a statistical fact. Also a team like Indiana on a neutral field would be a dog for Vegas against close to half the SEC teams. Teams like Ohio State and Oregon are good programs with a lot of talent and even those programs have historically proven to be overrated in post season play.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
Do you really think the Michigan AD wants to do Ohio State any favors?
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Hell yes he does. If ohio wins and advances, the conf and his wolverines get more money. It is 100% to his best interest for as many b10 teams to get in and advance. - putting Penn State and ohio on the road - at Neyland especially- reduces his chances - greatly reduces- of millions of additional revenue.
 
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The committee waaaaay over-compensated for championship game losses to the point that they made the winners suffer more than the losers. Oregon got it worse than Penn State for instance. SMU has a better path than Clemson who beat them.
 
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SprocketRocket said:
The Committee couldn't let the game be played here...



Once again, great work from Tennessee's PR team!
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UT97Vol said:
Simple. Because the committee was controlled by the Big 10.

The committee chair being a Big 10 AD is the biggest conflict of interest I can imagine. There was no way he was going to allow a Big Ten team to have to play at an SEC venue - especially this one.

And every decision made demonstrates just how overtly and intentionally biased he was in terms of where he put teams and what their seeds were.
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Additionally, a fact of life is that the big10 and Notre Dame will be taken before anyone else. ALWAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Notre Dame and the Big Ten, a combined two titles in the 21st century in Football, Basketball, and Baseball with one being blatantly fraudulent.
Joke of a conference. PSU and Notre Dame had zero business hosting. OSU looks like they got the name brand treatment based on losing at home to close out the season when they were favored by 3 TDs.
 
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Real reason is Michigan AD is on committee and has ton of sway and a big ten homer.
 
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Hulavol said:
Hell yes he does. If ohio wins and advances, the conf and his wolverines get more money. It is 100% to his best interest for as many b10 teams to get in and advance. - putting Penn State and ohio on the road - at Neyland especially- reduces his chances - greatly reduces- of millions of additional revenue.
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^^^ This.
 
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