The SEC could have 7 teams finish the season 10-2

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TennCan said:
There are currently 9 SEC teams with 2 or fewer losses. There are scenarios where as many as 7 of those teams could end the regular season at 10-2, which would be insanity. Out of the 6 teams with only 1 loss currently, I believe only the winner of Tenn/UGA and Texas have a real chance of finishing with only one loss. How many teams do you think end the regular season with 1 loss and how many with 2 losses?

My prediction is (0) 1-loss teams and (4-5) 2-loss teams.

Below is the remaining schedule for each of the 9 teams with 2 or fewer losses:



Texas A&M (6-1): LSU, @USC, New Mexico St, @Auburn, Texas

LSU (6-1): @A&M, Alabama, @UF, Vandy, Okla

Georgia (6-1): UF, @Ole Miss, UT, U Mass, GT

Tennessee (6-1): UK, Miss St, @UGA, Utep, @Vandy

Missouri (6-1): @Alabama, Okla, @USC, @Miss St, Ark

Texas (6-1): @Vandy, UF, @Ark, UK, @A&M

Vandy (5-2): Texas, @Auburn, USC, @lsu, Tenn

Alabama (5-2): Mizz, @lsu, Mercer, @ Okla, Auburn

Ole Miss (5-2): Okla, @Ark, UGA, UF, Miss St.
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on similar topic, lets say if there are multiple two loss teams, does it hurt to actually play in the SEC championship game and lose ? Would you rather be that next team in rankings that gets in from SEC with 2 losses instead ?
 
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Conference did away with divisions, thinking they could use tiebreakers to solve the chaos. We’ll see if they are right. Looks like the championship game will be a case of not enough cookies to go around. We are just over halfway through the season, and some big games left to play. Earlier, Texas looked like a shoo-in, but they may not enjoy their trip to College Station.
 
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Orange-U-Glad said:
Conference did away with divisions, thinking they could use tiebreakers to solve the chaos. We’ll see if they are right. Looks like the championship game will be a case of not enough cookies to go around. We are just over halfway through the season, and some big games left to play. Earlier, Texas looked like a shoo-in, but they may not enjoy their trip to College Station.
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Yeah, it looks awfully chaotic right now. Schedules aren't very balanced and not enough data points with so many teams.

I think a 9 game conference schedule would help.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
I'd love to see Vandy win out, 9except for the UT) just so two Tennessee teams are in the playoffs. I want our state to be one where any other teams dread the prospect of playing a Tennessee team.
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People keep forgetting that Vandy lost to Georgia State. Even if they won out other than UT they'd be 9-3 with zero chance at playoffs.
 
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It's setting up for a log jam. Can't go down to Athens and get run.. The eye test may be the deciding factor with these teams late in the year.. Late losses usually do you no good with that.
 
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Now, watch the committee put into the playoffs more teams from the B1G than any other conference…
 
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tennesseekilt said:
People keep forgetting that Vandy lost to Georgia State. Even if they won out other than UT they'd be 9-3 with zero chance at playoffs.
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Didn't we lose to Ga State too? In any case, I'd love to see Vandy start winning, Memphis too, make playing any Tennessee team something out=of-state schools dread doing.
 
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crucdvol said:
May need its own post but will leave here for now.
Let’s say we beat UGA and win all others. Who do we face in the SEC CHAMPIONSHIP game and how does winning/losing that game impact these speculations?
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Without diving into it to much I think it would likely be the winner of Texas vs A&M the last week of the season. if LSU beats A&M and Bama then they would also be in play as well. Outside shot that LSU, Texas and us all end up 11-1 without playing each other as well.
 
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My take - if we win out and are 11-1 - okay to go to the SEC championship game as a loss, barring it being a bad one, probably doesn't prevent us from making the playoffs.

But if we lose and are 10-2, the least risk is to let another 10-2 team go to the game as the loser will have 3 losses and isn't making the playoffs. Of course, the upside is that the team is 11-2, and SEC champs which probably puts them to the top of the pile.

We really need for other conferences to have a 2-loss second best team as well.
 
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volfan102455 said:
My take - if we win out and are 11-1 - okay to go to the SEC championship game as a loss, barring it being a bad one, probably doesn't prevent us from making the playoffs.

But if we lose and are 10-2, the least risk is to let another 10-2 team go to the game as the loser will have 3 losses and isn't making the playoffs. Of course, the upside is that the team is 11-2, and SEC champs which probably puts them to the top of the pile.

We really need for other conferences to have a 2-loss second best team as well.
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We would be far better at 11-2 with SEC Championship game loss than 10-2. We have a win @ Georgia in that scenario (and one over Vandy, we still got to beat them).
 
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volbound1700 said:
We would be far better at 11-2 with SEC Championship game loss than 10-2. We have a win @ Georgia in that scenario (and one over Vandy, we still got to beat them).
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Agree but if we make the championship game with a 10-2 record and lose to be 10-3 - we are not making the playoffs.
 
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volmandu said:
on similar topic, lets say if there are multiple two loss teams, does it hurt to actually play in the SEC championship game and lose ? Would you rather be that next team in rankings that gets in from SEC with 2 losses instead ?
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No. I would not rather have to hope we make it in the playoffs. Not never. I'm playing for the SEC Title, and the automatic berth.
Finishing as one of the two best teams in the SEC regular season can't ever hurt a team. How could it, and why would someone even assume it could? Finishing 3-6 is way more of a crap shoot than ending up at 1 or 2.
 
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Looking at the way the teams are selected it says - the Power 4 conference champions get the automatic bids. So besides hoping that there are a few undefeated or 1 loss teams, we also have to hope that lower ranked Power 4 teams don't pull the upsets in the conference championship games.

Example in the ACC where you have Miami, Clemson and Pitt and SMU - Miami does not play any of the other three but each other. By luck, they all end up with 1 loss in conference which leaves SMU and Clemson with 2 losses, Pitt with 1 loss. And then due to the matchups one of the 2 loss teams plays Miami and beats them. - They are in and so is Miami - but you have 1 loss Pitt.

Not going to argue the strength of the conferences - but just pointing out that this is how teams in the SEC will be left out.

Tennessee's best path is to win out and that includes winning the conference championship game. Anything else but that and any combination of situations could see them on the outside looking in.

The rules were set up to reward the winners of the conference championship games regardless of how many losses those teams have or where they are ranked - that is why they are still being played.

I fully expect to see 1 or 2, maybe more teams ranked outside the top 12 in the team of 12. A non conference champion probably needs to be in the top 5 or 6 to be assured of a spot.
 
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Given that each SEC team has already lost at least one game this season, the maximum achievable record for any of these teams by the end of the season is 11-1. Therefore, for teams with one current loss, only one more can be sustained to finish at 10-2. Here’s a breakdown for each team based on their path to achieve that record.

### Updated Analysis by Team (for 10-2 Finish)

1. **Texas A&M (6-1)**
- **Remaining Games**: LSU, USC, New Mexico State, Auburn, Texas.
- **Path to 10-2**: Wins over USC, New Mexico State, Auburn; losses to LSU and Texas.

2. **LSU (6-1)**
- **Remaining Games**: Texas A&M, Alabama, Florida, Vanderbilt, Oklahoma.
- **Path to 10-2**: Wins over Texas A&M, Florida, Vanderbilt; losses to Alabama and Oklahoma.

3. **Georgia (6-1)**
- **Remaining Games**: Florida, Ole Miss, Tennessee, UMass, Georgia Tech.
- **Path to 10-2**: Wins over Florida, Tennessee, UMass, Georgia Tech; loss to Ole Miss.

4. **Tennessee (6-1)**
- **Remaining Games**: Kentucky, Mississippi State, Georgia, UTEP, Vanderbilt.
- **Path to 10-2**: Wins over Kentucky, Mississippi State, UTEP; loss to either Georgia or Vanderbilt.

5. **Missouri (6-1)**
- **Remaining Games**: Alabama, Oklahoma, USC, Mississippi State, Arkansas.
- **Path to 10-2**: Wins over USC, Mississippi State, Arkansas; losses to Alabama and Oklahoma.

6. **Vanderbilt (5-2)**
- **Remaining Games**: Texas, Auburn, USC, LSU, Tennessee.
- **Path to 10-2**: Wins over Auburn, USC, Tennessee; losses to Texas and LSU.

7. **Alabama (5-2)**
- **Remaining Games**: Missouri, LSU, Mercer, Oklahoma, Auburn.
- **Path to 10-2**: Wins over Missouri, LSU, Mercer, Auburn; loss to Oklahoma.

8. **Ole Miss (5-2)**
- **Remaining Games**: Oklahoma, Arkansas, Georgia, Florida, Mississippi State.
- **Path to 10-2**: Wins over Arkansas, Florida, Mississippi State; loss to Oklahoma.

By distributing wins and losses selectively in this way, **all eight teams listed could potentially end the season with a 10-2 record**.
 
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Gandalf said:
Given that each SEC team has already lost at least one game this season, the maximum achievable record for any of these teams by the end of the season is 11-1. Therefore, for teams with one current loss, only one more can be sustained to finish at 10-2. Here’s a breakdown for each team based on their path to achieve that record.

### Updated Analysis by Team (for 10-2 Finish)

1. **Texas A&M (6-1)**
- **Remaining Games**: LSU, USC, New Mexico State, Auburn, Texas.
- **Path to 10-2**: Wins over USC, New Mexico State, Auburn; losses to LSU and Texas.

2. **LSU (6-1)**
- **Remaining Games**: Texas A&M, Alabama, Florida, Vanderbilt, Oklahoma.
- **Path to 10-2**: Wins over Texas A&M, Florida, Vanderbilt; losses to Alabama and Oklahoma.

3. **Georgia (6-1)**
- **Remaining Games**: Florida, Ole Miss, Tennessee, UMass, Georgia Tech.
- **Path to 10-2**: Wins over Florida, Tennessee, UMass, Georgia Tech; loss to Ole Miss.

4. **Tennessee (6-1)**
- **Remaining Games**: Kentucky, Mississippi State, Georgia, UTEP, Vanderbilt.
- **Path to 10-2**: Wins over Kentucky, Mississippi State, UTEP; loss to either Georgia or Vanderbilt.

5. **Missouri (6-1)**
- **Remaining Games**: Alabama, Oklahoma, USC, Mississippi State, Arkansas.
- **Path to 10-2**: Wins over USC, Mississippi State, Arkansas; losses to Alabama and Oklahoma.

6. **Vanderbilt (5-2)**
- **Remaining Games**: Texas, Auburn, USC, LSU, Tennessee.
- **Path to 10-2**: Wins over Auburn, USC, Tennessee; losses to Texas and LSU.

7. **Alabama (5-2)**
- **Remaining Games**: Missouri, LSU, Mercer, Oklahoma, Auburn.
- **Path to 10-2**: Wins over Missouri, LSU, Mercer, Auburn; loss to Oklahoma.

8. **Ole Miss (5-2)**
- **Remaining Games**: Oklahoma, Arkansas, Georgia, Florida, Mississippi State.
- **Path to 10-2**: Wins over Arkansas, Florida, Mississippi State; loss to Oklahoma.

By distributing wins and losses selectively in this way, **all eight teams listed could potentially end the season with a 10-2 record**.
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I am not following. If Missouri losses to both Alabama and Oklahoma, they are 9-3. If Vandy loses any game, it will be 9-3 or 8-4 (8-4 based on your analysis. Alabama and Ole Miss need to win out as well.
 
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TennCan said:
There are currently 9 SEC teams with 2 or fewer losses. There are scenarios where as many as 7 of those teams could end the regular season at 10-2, which would be insanity. Out of the 6 teams with only 1 loss currently, I believe only the winner of Tenn/UGA and Texas have a real chance of finishing with only one loss. How many teams do you think end the regular season with 1 loss and how many with 2 losses?

My prediction is (0) 1-loss teams and (4-5) 2-loss teams.

Below is the remaining schedule for each of the 9 teams with 2 or fewer losses:



Texas A&M (6-1): LSU, @USC, New Mexico St, @Auburn, Texas

LSU (6-1): @A&M, Alabama, @UF, Vandy, Okla

Georgia (6-1): UF, @Ole Miss, UT, U Mass, GT

Tennessee (6-1): UK, Miss St, @UGA, Utep, @Vandy

Missouri (6-1): @Alabama, Okla, @USC, @Miss St, Ark

Texas (6-1): @Vandy, UF, @Ark, UK, @A&M

Vandy (5-2): Texas, @Auburn, USC, @lsu, Tenn

Alabama (5-2): Mizz, @lsu, Mercer, @ Okla, Auburn

Ole Miss (5-2): Okla, @Ark, UGA, UF, Miss St.
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I would like to see Tennessee play Mississippi in the SEC Championship Game in Atlanta.
 
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TennCan said:
There are currently 9 SEC teams with 2 or fewer losses. There are scenarios where as many as 7 of those teams could end the regular season at 10-2, which would be insanity. Out of the 6 teams with only 1 loss currently, I believe only the winner of Tenn/UGA and Texas have a real chance of finishing with only one loss. How many teams do you think end the regular season with 1 loss and how many with 2 losses?

My prediction is (0) 1-loss teams and (4-5) 2-loss teams.

Below is the remaining schedule for each of the 9 teams with 2 or fewer losses:



Texas A&M (6-1): LSU, @USC, New Mexico St, @Auburn, Texas

LSU (6-1): @A&M, Alabama, @UF, Vandy, Okla

Georgia (6-1): UF, @Ole Miss, UT, U Mass, GT

Tennessee (6-1): UK, Miss St, @UGA, Utep, @Vandy

Missouri (6-1): @Alabama, Okla, @USC, @Miss St, Ark

Texas (6-1): @Vandy, UF, @Ark, UK, @A&M

Vandy (5-2): Texas, @Auburn, USC, @lsu, Tenn

Alabama (5-2): Mizz, @lsu, Mercer, @ Okla, Auburn

Ole Miss (5-2): Okla, @Ark, UGA, UF, Miss St.
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I think UT is going to "shock" UGA and have one loss. UT vs UT in the SEC CG.
 
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