The shut down thread

[BigOrangeD]

Sure he does, he has an AR15 in the closet.

LOL

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

If he actually says last chance in his address today I will lose it.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

If he actually says last chance in his address today I will lose it.

Or, what if he just goes for the triple dog dare and issues a state of emergency and says they wall will start next week. And then tells everyone now that the wall is out of the budget lets get one passed and get these people paid.

 

[DC_Vol]

So you have 4 walls, cameras, sensors and you still don't feel safe.

The point is that is good security. It’s not a binary choice. It’s not a necessarily a wall or drones/cameras. One doesn’t make the other a bad option.

Good security employs all of those in one form or fashion.

I guess the point I www making is that type of argument is for simpletons.

 

[Velo Vol]

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

I don't mind this. Again, they are already here illegally, undocumented, and not paying taxes. This fixes all three.


Edit: But I want the money passed for every single inch of the wall that geography or topography doesnt call for it/need it.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

Clustered this up.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

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[NorthDallas40]

I don't mind this. Again, they are already here illegally, undocumented, and not paying taxes. This fixes all three.

Any minor that came here as a result of their parents is not at fault for being here. This is the country they know. We need to find a way to absorb them into the citizen population but we must not reward the illegal behavior of their parents by doing so. That’s my only big nit on it.

 

[lawgator1]

I think everyone would agree that we have an immigration problem, but how does it rise to the level of a National Emergency if it's been going on for decades, and in fact is better now than it has been in 20 plus years? He would lose that argument in court, I believe.

 

[DD4ME]

Lol because digging massive tunnels networks are as easy as scooping ice cream. Lol there’s some truly idiotic retorts when it comes to building a wall.

As if ending illegal immigration was as easy as building a multi-billion dollar wall. There's truly some idiotic retorts when it comes to national security.

 

[DD4ME]

I think everyone would agree that we have an immigration problem, but how does it rise to the level of a National Emergency if it's been going on for decades, and in fact is better now than it has been in 20 plus years? He would lose that argument in court, I believe.

I wish Trump would just use capitolism and let people buy their way in. Could pile up options on them like the student loan debt saddling all of your kids right now that we want to ignore.

It sure is easy to talk about these damn dirty Mexicans ruining our lives instead of looking in a mirror.

I hate politics and consider myself a moderate. I have voted both sides of the isle for good candidates, and regulalrly disagree with radical stances on either side. We've been boiled down to drivel and charicatures.

 

[Velo Vol]

Nothing like going on TV to make an offer that you didn't even consult the other side with. Great way to resolve a standoff.

 

[37L1]

I think everyone would agree that we have an immigration problem, but how does it rise to the level of a National Emergency if it's been going on for decades, and in fact is better now than it has been in 20 plus years? He would lose that argument in court, I believe.

So you are not beating your wife as much as in previous years. Big improvement.

I know, strawman, but what the heck. It ain't only you that gets to use them.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

I think everyone would agree that we have an immigration problem, but how does it rise to the level of a National Emergency if it's been going on for decades, and in fact is better now than it has been in 20 plus years? He would lose that argument in court, I believe.

There's no court. It's his decision.

Was fentanyl coming across 20+ years ago?

Was opium coming across 20+ years ago?

When have you see 50,000 come at the border all at once?

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

Nothing like going on TV to make an offer that you didn't even consult the other side with. Great way to resolve a standoff.

Really stupid. No idea what he's going to say but to blow him off before he offers looks terrible for the Dems.

 

[DC_Vol]

As if ending illegal immigration was as easy as building a multi-billion dollar wall. There's truly some idiotic retorts when it comes to national security.

Who has said that?

 

[DD4ME]

This will likely end like it always does with both sides spending money we didn't have to begin with and everyone calling it a win. Fiscal conservatives don't exist anymore.

 

[Carl Pickens]

The religion of peace in all its glory

 

[DC_Vol]

The religion of peace in all its glory

The Religion of Pieces

 

[DD4ME]

Who has said that?

Maybe help me understand what's implied below. He doesn't mention curbing illegal immigration across the border.

As far as the wall is concerned, we’re going to build a wall. We’re going to create a border. We’re going to let people in, but they’re going to come in legally.

 

[DD4ME]

So you are not beating your wife as much as in previous years. Big improvement.

I know, strawman, but what the heck. It ain't only you that gets to use them.

What happened to actual reasonable dialogue on a subject?

You disagree, you support terrorism. I disagree, I want innocent children murdered.

I miss common sense discussion.

 

[volinbham]

Nothing like going on TV to make an offer that you didn't even consult the other side with. Great way to resolve a standoff.

At least one side is making offers regardless of the presentation style.

 

[volinbham]

What happened to actual reasonable dialogue on a subject?

You disagree, you support terrorism. I disagree, I want innocent children murdered.

I miss common sense discussion.

I fear that ship has sailed.

 

[GreyWolf1129]

I think everyone would agree that we have an immigration problem, but how does it rise to the level of a National Emergency if it's been going on for decades, and in fact is better now than it has been in 20 plus years? He would lose that argument in court, I believe.

Save this argument for when the national deficit becomes a real national emergency. We've been kicking that can down the road for 20 plus years as well. Both parties.