The shut down thread

And welfare doesn’t fix poverty. Laws don’t stop crime. “Education” still produces morons. Your playing a game you can’t win. A barrier will irrefutably help with border security.
It's not a game, just pointing out the fallacy of your statement. I will agree that there are probably places where an investment in a wall will be worth it but there are places where it's not.
 
It's not a game, just pointing out the fallacy of your statement. I will agree that there are probably places where an investment in a wall will be worth it but there are places where it's not.
I’m pretty sure the plan is to put the wall in places it’s needed and not in places not needed.

Glad you agree that the wall is a great idea.
 
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I’m pretty sure the plan is to put the wall in places it’s needed and not in places not needed.

Glad you agree that the wall is a great idea.
No I don't agree that a wall is a "great" idea and you saying you are pretty sure about what you think trump is thinking is just ludicrous.
 
No I don't agree that a wall is a "great" idea and you saying you are pretty sure about what you think trump is thinking is just ludicrous.
He flat out said it in his address about border security... Guess the gang forgot to tweet that for ya...
 
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You have about one out of 20 posts that is reasonable and the rest is just redhat isms. You're pandering your post toward the morons.
Seriously Mick, you’re being unreasonable. He just said the other day that the wall was only for certain areas. But in your need to be right, you bring up some sh*t said 2 years ago.
 
Seriously Mick, you’re being unreasonable. He just said the other day that the wall was only for certain areas. But in your need to be right, you bring up some sh*t said 2 years ago.
I have had my position on border security for awhile, it appears that your position is evolving and maybe Trumps, but this is Trump, he could flip flop at any moment. Earlier you were obsessed with trying to say the Dem's flip floppin on the wall, when in fact most haven't. Can't even talk about border security because trump wants to pander to his base about a wall and nothing else. It tested well with the redhats.
 
I have had my position on border security for awhile, it appears that your position is evolving and maybe Trumps, but this is Trump, he could flip flop at any moment. Earlier you were obsessed with trying to say the Dem's flip floppin on the wall, when in fact most haven't. Can't even talk about border security because trump wants to pander to his base about a wall and nothing else. It tested well with the redhats.
Dems flip flopped because TRUMP, period.
 
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That's how you want to frame it. Only the redhats will buy it.
Not necessarily. Several key Dems have previously supported more border fencing. So you're pinning your hopes on the public differentiating between fencing and a wall. People will question why support one and not the other, and the most obvious choice is Trump. It's party politics, and a large portion of the public is tired of the petty bickering between the parties, so who's to say how their opinion will swing?

In the end, fencing, a wall, I don't think any of it will have the effectiveness supporters think it will, but they're convinced it's the solution.
 

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