The shut down thread

#876
#876
BowlBrother85 said:
For the military to build the wall, that would qualify as a military construction project, and there is currently not anywhere near $5 billion appropriated for that. So, if Trump decides to use the military, he will have to pull money already set aside for another project and use it for the wall. However, to do that would require approval from Congress... So, once again, you are screwed.

This is how our government works. A President can't rob Peter to pay Paul around here without getting approval from Congress.
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Holy Cow. Are you in a coma?
 
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#877
#877
NEOCON said:
He can always get a new job.
The economy is booming if you haven’t heard.
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Where is he going to find one where he can retire in 20 years with complete benefits and pay like the .gov doles out?

No.more.defined.benefit.retirement.plans. They are killing this country. Put them ALL on 401(k)s. Immediately.
 
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#878
#878
Velo Vol said:
If Fox News Channel in NYC is the voice of those people, I guess so.

Kind of weird, though--if the situation is so dire and dangerous, why did he wait two years to do the inevitable?

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Lol. You’re FOS. You’re posting a BOT tweet translator and trying to pass it off as a genuine White House statement.

Your fixation on Trump is seriously unhealthy.

Real Press Sec. (Social Media Influencer) (@RealPressSecBot) on Twitter

The actual full tweet.

 
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#879
#879
NEOCON said:
He wanted to do something day one but house republicans and senate suck and are a bunch of rhinos. He now knows this is his last shot and no help is coming from his own party

This is why so many of us conservatives hate the Republican Party anymore.

They are gutless and a bunch of Flakes....pun intended.

I personally loathe the Republicans at this point.
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So then why did he sign off on a budget that
NEOCON said:
He wanted to do something day one but house republicans and senate suck and are a bunch of rhinos. He now knows this is his last shot and no help is coming from his own party

This is why so many of us conservatives hate the Republican Party anymore.

They are gutless and a bunch of Flakes....pun intended.

I personally loathe the Republicans at this point.
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ok let’s look at things as they actually happened:

He had control of House and Senate and signed off on no guarantee for his wall. And signed off on one that still included funding for planned parent hood.

This most recent round he signaled to GOP leaders he would sign off on no wall funding until he got yelled at by Rush and Ann.

Now here we are. Seems like incompetent leadership to me. Seems like someone who doesn’t believe in the effectiveness of his wall. He’s a scum bag like every other politician. Throwing meat at his base. He is a dirt bag just like the rest. He’s not draining the swap.
 
#882
#882
NorthDallas40 said:
Lol. You’re FOS. You’re posting a BOT tweet translator and trying to pass it off as a genuine White House statement.
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It's the exact same thing as the president tweets. I just use it because it's easier to embed as an image, and in case he deleted it.

If this is the best response you can muster, why even bother?

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#883
#883
Velo Vol said:
It's the exact same thing as the president tweets. I just use it because it's easier to embed as an image, and in case he deleted it.

If this is the best response you can muster, why even bother?

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Bull ****. You’re deflecting away from getting busted trying to pass off tweets as White House statements. You caught grief for posting so many of his tweets so you swapped to this BS tactic. Weak.

And btw it’s easy to know these “statements” you post are crap. Just check the official WH press page. That’s the first clue I know you were FOS. Then I found the pay BOT.
 
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#884
#884
volfanhill said:
So then why did he sign off on a budget that

ok let’s look at things as they actually happened:

He had control of House and Senate and signed off on no guarantee for his wall. And signed off on one that still included funding for planned parent hood.

This most recent round he signaled to GOP leaders he would sign off on no wall funding until he got yelled at by Rush and Ann.

Now here we are. Seems like incompetent leadership to me. Seems like someone who doesn’t believe in the effectiveness of his wall. He’s a scum bag like every other politician. Throwing meat at his base. He is a dirt bag just like the rest. He’s not draining the swap.
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If he doesnt believe in the effectiveness of the wall, then sounds like competence.
 
#886
#886
Ashevolle said:
Trump shutdown the government. McConnell refuses to put a vote to the House bill. A budget is ready to pass. But Trump's toddler temper tantrum us holding up the show.
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Actually Nancy and Chuckie are holding up the show. They were all for a barrier as recently as 2015. But then Trump got elected promising a barrier and it became a bad idea over night. So nope. You’re wrong.
 
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#888
#888
NorthDallas40 said:
Actually Nancy and Chuckie are holding up the show. They were all for a barrier as recently as 2015. But then Trump got elected promising a barrier and it became a bad idea over night. So nope. You’re wrong.
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You had frat boi Ryan and McConnel lurking the halls for two years. The idea that this is Dems fault is absolutely ludicrous. Trump is throwing a temper tantrum, nothing more.
 
#889
#889
NorthDallas40 said:
Actually Nancy and Chuckie are holding up the show. They were all for a barrier as recently as 2015. But then Trump got elected promising a barrier and it became a bad idea over night. So nope. You’re wrong.
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The house just passed a budget bill. Pelosi is in the house. Shes not holding up the show. McConnel controls the Senate and refuses to put the house bill to a vote because Trump said hed veto it. Schumer is not to blame bc hed not even given the opportunity to vote. You're wrong, plain and simple. Do whatever mental gymnastics you want but the wall is not a requirement to passing a budget.
 
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#892
#892
Guys, let's not stop with a wall. Immigrants will just be able to climb over it. Let's build a roof too. Cant be too careful.
 
#893
#893
ajvol01 said:
Is planned parenthood a matter of national security?
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In some ways more so than a wall. But that's another debate.
But for arguments sake, assume we have a president who thinks planned parenthood is key to national security and he demands 5 billion dollars or he will shut down the government for years until he gets it.
Is it still about the little white line of "only 5 billion dollars"?
 
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#895
#895
zeppelin128 said:
You had frat boi Ryan and McConnel lurking the halls for two years. The idea that this is Dems fault is absolutely ludicrous. Trump is throwing a temper tantrum, nothing more.
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And you had soy boi Flake McCain and Corker making sure it would never happen.
 
#899
#899
Ashevolle said:
The house just passed a budget bill. Pelosi is in the house. Shes not holding up the show. McConnel controls the Senate and refuses to put the house bill to a vote because Trump said hed veto it. Schumer is not to blame bc hed not even given the opportunity to vote. You're wrong, plain and simple. Do whatever mental gymnastics you want but the wall is not a requirement to passing a budget.
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Yep. He sure is holding it up. Because it won’t pass the Senate majority. And Trump wouldn’t sign it if it did.

Pelosi is managing theater. She was for it as late as 2015. Now that Trumps for it , the idea is Devil spawn. Bull ****.
 
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