The shut down thread

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NorthDallas40 said:
Common defense is idiotic? Guess you libs really are clueless on external threats.
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It is 100% idiotic when used as a means of supporting the wall.
Much more idiotic than saying "insure domestic tranquility" and "promote the general welfare" supports the concept of universal healthcare.
 
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evillawyer said:
Explain. We spend money on defense so foreign Invaders don't injure and kill us. We spend money on healthcare to avoid the same.
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Nope. False equivalency.

This is your argument stop trying to deflect to others to argue it for you. That’s one of your common tactics.
 
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luthervol said:
It is 100% idiotic when used as a means of supporting the wall.
Much more idiotic than saying "insure domestic tranquility" and "promote the general welfare" supports the concept of universal healthcare.
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Nope. If you view crimes committed by illegals as an issue it makes sense. It does to me. It doesn’t to you.

If we one day have drunk ass Canadians coming across en mass and committing crimes against our citizens and straining our welfare programs then let’s put a wall up there too. Frankly I don’t think we have to worry. We’re already there with Mexico and Central America
 
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1972 Grad said:
We also spend a lot on healthcare to pay for malpractice insurance and unnecessary procedures.
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Amen......it's a broken system and has been for decades. It would be nice if it wasn't just the democratic party willing to address the issues.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Nope. False equivalency.

This is your argument stop trying to deflect to others to argue it for you. That’s one of your common tactics.
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My argument is quite simple. Everyone believes national defense and spending on police is a core function of government. These things are done to ensure the safety and well-being of our citizens. If you accept that, what's the big conceptual leap to healthcare? To someone dying a preventable death, does it matter if the assailant is a foreign invader or a virus/disease?
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Nope. If you view crimes committed by illegals as an issue it makes sense. It does to me. It doesn’t to you.

If we one day have drunk ass Canadians coming across en mass and committing crimes against our citizens and straining our welfare programs then let’s put a wall up there too. Frankly I don’t think we have to worry. We’re already there with Mexico and Central America
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yawn.....you know they're contagious.
If it's crime you're worried about, we have much more crime committed by people addicted to opioids and other "legal" drugs. (Health care issues)
 
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evillawyer said:
My argument is quite simple. Everyone believes national defense and spending on police is a core function of government. These things are done to ensure the safety and well-being of our citizens. If you accept that, what's the big conceptual leap to healthcare? To someone dying a preventable death, does it matter if the assailant is a foreign invader or a virus/disease?
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Nope. Still a false equivalency. You have the CDC. There is your healthcare defense network which provides a common defense. Individual healthcare is not a damn mandate.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Nope. Still a false equivalency. You have the CDC. There is your healthcare defense network which provides a common defense. Individual healthcare is not a damn mandate.
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It will be. And for ever after the question will be, "What took you so damn long?".
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Nope. Still a false equivalency. You have the CDC. There is your healthcare defense network which provides a common defense. Individual healthcare is not a damn mandate.
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That's like saying we'll give you generals, but no soldiers or weapons. The CDC is largely based around research and policy. They are not the ones on the ground providing the medical care.
 
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evillawyer said:
My argument is quite simple. Everyone believes national defense and spending on police is a core function of government. These things are done to ensure the safety and well-being of our citizens. If you accept that, what's the big conceptual leap to healthcare? To someone dying a preventable death, does it matter if the assailant is a foreign invader or a virus/disease?
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You'd think so.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
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evillawyer said:
That's like saying we'll give you generals, but no soldiers or weapons. The CDC is largely based around research and policy. They are not the ones on the ground providing the medical care.
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Nope. Still don’t have a convincing argument.

The point is common shared risk. Thus the CDC. Not individual risk. That’s government over reach plain and simple.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
That was exactly what I thought when you posted that crap.

Is alcohol addiction a healthcare issue?

So chemical dependency and behaviorial modification is equivalent to having the flu or treating cancer? Absolute rubbish.
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If the alcohol was prescribed by doctors it would be.
 
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