The sissification and emasculation of the American male

[ClearwaterVol]

OK, lets give the commitment thing a tiny bit more attention. You work hard to gain your job skills and/or education. You get a good job. You marry, it doesn't work out for whatever reason. Nine times out of ten, judges auto-blame and penalize you even if the wife is at fault, even to the point of having committed adultery and it's proven. You lose the house you bought before you married her, you pay alimony, child support, even if she has a job as good or better than yours. And in some cases, she in or out of wedlock has another kid and gets a court to increase your child support payment as a result. You see some other guy living in what should be your house. Maybe even abusing your kids, and the court still side with your now, ex. Having your child visitation shackled, and your kids weaponized for bullying you around as well. Little wonder more men are gradually wising up and leaving the fem things alone. Congratulations self-centered, angry feminists, Congratulations.

Not what I generally see out there. I see the couple that is married for a decade or more. I see a guy who has a decent job, but bangs the younger assistant. Wife who stayed at home or worked minimally while taking care of the house and the 2.5 crotch goblins they have gets mad sues for divorce and gets 50% of the marital assets. This does not include assets purchased prior to the marriage... those are non marital assets. Then she gets some alimony and child support and gets the kids 26 days out of the month. Dad gets them every other weekend and pays the minimum child support and bitches when his original kids start getting in the way of the new family. Refuses to do anything extra like help purchase a car when the kid's become of age etc. Congratulations to the dead beat dads that have an entire generation of woman wising up and leaving the men alone.

 

[Gandalf]

Not what I generally see out there. I see the couple that is married for a decade or more. I see a guy who has a decent job, but bangs the younger assistant. Wife who stayed at home or worked minimally while taking care of the house and the 2.5 crotch goblins they have gets mad sues for divorce and gets 50% of the marital assets. This does not include assets purchased prior to the marriage... those are non marital assets. Then she gets some alimony and child support and gets the kids 26 days out of the month. Dad gets them every other weekend and pays the minimum child support and bitches when his original kids start getting in the way of the new family. Refuses to do anything extra like help purchase a car when the kid's become of age etc. Congratulations to the dead beat dads that have an entire generation of woman wising up and leaving the men alone.

Both dead beat dads and gold digging women are a stain on society and should be shamed accordingly. Thats in aggregate - but its not so easy to tell in person who is culpable and honestly, often, both bear some responsibility. The core of the problem though, is that the marriage is not staying together. People decide that its easier to leave than to do the hard work of staying and working things out - first and foremost, working on themselves to be a better partner and parent.

With 1/3 of marriages ending in divorce (not 1/2 as is commonly said), vast numbers of the next generation are being messed up by having a split family. Divorce rates among devout Christians are about 35% less than that but that is still far too high.

 

[hog88]

Let the boys fight. We screwed up when we did away with letting little boys duke it out in elementary school, killing the boys will be boys mindset has been a disaster.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Let the boys fight. We screwed up when we did away with letting little boys duke it out in elementary school, killing the boys will be boys mindset has been a disaster.

How far do you extend that boys will be boys mindset? It has been used as justification for lots of crude behavior. Little Timmy grabbed Little Susie's butt... oh well, boys will be boys.

 

[hog88]

How far do you extend that boys will be boys mindset? It has been used as justification for lots of crude behavior. Little Timmy grabbed Little Susie's butt... oh well, boys will be boys.

At the elementary level you use that as a teaching moment and not a law enforcement moment. The overreaction to a elementary kid doing exactly what you describe causes more harm than the initial act.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

At the elementary level you use that as a teaching moment and not a law enforcement moment. The overreaction to a elementary kid doing exactly what you describe causes more harm than the initial act.

A teachable moment means no consequences and the girls see that, as well. We wonder why women do not report sexual assaults. It is because we treat the victims worse than the rapists. I am not saying the cops should be involved for relatively minor infractions, but the consequences need to be swift and severe.

 

[VolStrom]

A teachable moment means no consequences and the girls see that, as well. We wonder why women do not report sexual assaults. It is because we treat the victims worse than the rapists. I am not saying the cops should be involved for relatively minor infractions, but the consequences need to be swift and severe.

I don't think boys are playing gab ass at the elementary school level. Generally, I would think thoughts of something like that would start after puberty.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

I don't think boys are playing gab ass at the elementary school level. Generally, I would think thoughts of something like that would start after puberty.

It starts younger than you might be comfortable with.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

Not what I generally see out there. I see the couple that is married for a decade or more. I see a guy who has a decent job, but bangs the younger assistant. Wife who stayed at home or worked minimally while taking care of the house and the 2.5 crotch goblins they have gets mad sues for divorce and gets 50% of the marital assets. This does not include assets purchased prior to the marriage... those are non marital assets. Then she gets some alimony and child support and gets the kids 26 days out of the month. Dad gets them every other weekend and pays the minimum child support and bitches when his original kids start getting in the way of the new family. Refuses to do anything extra like help purchase a car when the kid's become of age etc. Congratulations to the dead beat dads that have an entire generation of woman wising up and leaving the men alone.

We don't see things the same way. There cannot HONESTLY nor TRUTHFULLY be claimed that men are innocent. Not in my book, anyway. We have a disgusting history in nearly every culture of mistreating women, viewing as property, even items to be traded. And that behavior and attitude remained in modern times. Just look at our ads, not that far away, timewise.
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I dare say, feminism arose due to men's attitudes and behavior toward women. Like any intelligent creature, the reached a point where they decide NO MORE! Unfortunately, as with nearly ever well-meaning intent, humans bend those intents into a negative direction.

That's what has happened with women's rights. It morphed into the man-hating we see today. So while what you see is by no means inaccurate, you may inadvertently or by choice fail to see the other side of the coin. We have these, especially younger women today, saying they don't need men, that they'd be better off with us. Plus enjoying their misguided social power. You can be sitting on a bench, and some woman (or Karen thing) walks by and screams that assaulted her. You're automatically guilty, no matter ho innocent you are. She can even physically attack you, and if you dare to try to ward off hr attack, you're the aggressor. That's why Pence and many other men refuse to even be in the same room as a woman unless their wives, mothers, or additional occupants are also there. No doubt there are exceptions that fit what you see, but it doesn't nullify the new realities of feminist behavior I mentioned. Just go on TikTok, Only Fans, and similar sites and see them bragging about it. Plus exhibiting themselves in gross ways. Some sites, these women even brag about body counts - how many men they slept with, married and toke their money, made into sugar daddies etc. Then when they are in the mid to 30s, or early 40s, bemoan that nobody seems to want to be with them. You and me, see different things, perhaps because I've traveled more, and lived in more places. Watched events unfold because I worked in a field that let me it.

 

[hog88]

A teachable moment means no consequences and the girls see that, as well. We wonder why women do not report sexual assaults. It is because we treat the victims worse than the rapists. I am not saying the cops should be involved for relatively minor infractions, but the consequences need to be swift and severe.

Who said no consequences? Bring back paddling, punishment is part of the teaching moment. Our problem is we use a sledge hammer on kids when a fly swatter would do more good.

 

[Matt2496]

Not what I generally see out there. I see the couple that is married for a decade or more. I see a guy who has a decent job, but bangs the younger assistant. Wife who stayed at home or worked minimally while taking care of the house and the 2.5 crotch goblins they have gets mad sues for divorce and gets 50% of the marital assets. This does not include assets purchased prior to the marriage... those are non marital assets. Then she gets some alimony and child support and gets the kids 26 days out of the month. Dad gets them every other weekend and pays the minimum child support and bitches when his original kids start getting in the way of the new family. Refuses to do anything extra like help purchase a car when the kid's become of age etc. Congratulations to the dead beat dads that have an entire generation of woman wising up and leaving the men alone.

I’ve seen the opposite firsthand. I know of women that have not only cheated on their husband, but also gone out of their way to get their kids to falsely testify against him in court so that he loses custody. And guess what? The court ruled in favor of the woman.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

I don't think boys are playing gab ass at the elementary school level. Generally, I would think thoughts of something like that would start after puberty.

That might have once been true, not anymore. Kids are bombarded with sexual images on various media. And now, LBGT is being thrown in their faces. Let me quickly give an example. JURASSIC WORLD CAMP CRETACEOUS is a children's digital cartoon show. It was WONDERFUL. It taught about dino species, different kid personalities who probably under normal circumstances wouldn't even acknowledge the other existed. But they were thrown into a situation where they had to work as a team, a reality that gradually dawned on them over time. It had problem-solving, so much good stuff. For the first 2-3 seasons, it was fine, then suddenly, two of the girls started a lesbian relationship. A children's program, mind you. But even before that TV ads, movies, comic books (She-Hulk, for example, has a reputation of sleeping around), kids almost can't avoid seeing suggestive and even blatant examples of sexual before now. And they got the vocabulary and conduct to match.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

We don't see things the same way. There cannot HONESTLY nor TRUTHFULLY be claimed that men are innocent. Not in my book, anyway. We have a disgusting history in nearly every culture of mistreating women, viewing as property, even items to be traded. And that behavior and attitude remained in modern times. Just look at our ads, not that far away, timewise.
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I dare say, feminism arose due to men's attitudes and behavior toward women. Like any intelligent creature, the reached a point where they decide NO MORE! Unfortunately, as with nearly ever well-meaning intent, humans bend those intents into a negative direction.

That's what has happened with women's rights. It morphed into the man-hating we see today. So while what you see is by no means inaccurate, you may inadvertently or by choice fail to see the other side of the coin. We have these, especially younger women today, saying they don't need men, that they'd be better off with us. Plus enjoying their misguided social power. You can be sitting on a bench, and some woman (or Karen thing) walks by and screams that assaulted her. You're automatically guilty, no matter ho innocent you are. She can even physically attack you, and if you dare to try to ward off hr attack, you're the aggressor. That's why Pence and many other men refuse to even be in the same room as a woman unless their wives, mothers, or additional occupants are also there. No doubt there are exceptions that fit what you see, but it doesn't nullify the new realities of feminist behavior I mentioned. Just go on TikTok, Only Fans, and similar sites and see them bragging about it. Plus exhibiting themselves in gross ways. Some sites, these women even brag about body counts - how many men they slept with, married and toke their money, made into sugar daddies etc. Then when they are in the mid to 30s, or early 40s, bemoan that nobody seems to want to be with them. You and me, see different things, perhaps because I've traveled more, and lived in more places. Watched events unfold because I worked in a field that let me it.

Yeah, you are clearly more cultured and travelled than I am.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

Yeah, you are clearly more cultured and travelled than I am.

OHHH NOO! I hurd yo fillings. Vewy sowwy. It's OK, I expect snide responses from many of you. Thanks.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

I’ve seen the opposite firsthand. I know of women that have not only cheated on their husband, but also gone out of their way to get their kids to falsely testify against him in court so that he loses custody. And guess what? The court ruled in favor of the woman.

And men have done things just as bad. I see many many men bragging about what good fathers they are because they pay child support. That's not being a good father that is doing the bare minimum. I see them bragging every time they see their kids (every other weekend) about what great parents they are. Again, no. That is the bare minimum. If you want your kids... fight for them. Most of these "fathers" aren't willing to do that.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

OHHH NOO! I hurd yo fillings. Vewy sowwy. It's OK, I expect snide responses from many of you. Thanks.

You made assumptions about my personal history without knowing a thing about me and then you have the audacity to call my response to your ignorance snide? Tienes cojones enormes.

 

[Zues1]

Yeah, I don't believe it. You're over the top machismo does little to hide the closet in which you reside.

You keep on believing that
Now I'm done with you pantywaist as I'm not going back and forth " to show you my machismo" clown....

 

[DinkinFlicka]

OHHH NOO! I hurd yo fillings. Vewy sowwy. It's OK, I expect snide responses from many of you. Thanks.

I mean, I'm well traveled and I fundamentally see things differently than a lot of what you list in your post.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

You made assumptions about my personal history without knowing a thing about me and then you have the audacity to call my response to your ignorance snide? Tienes cojones enormes.

Fishing for a back and forth tirade, I see. And all because I said:
You and me, see different things, perhaps because I've traveled more, and lived in more places.
It wasn't a declaration, it was a supposition. But by all means, continue fishing. Never know if you will
catch something or not.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

You keep on believing that
Now I'm done with you pantywaist as I'm not going back and forth " to show you my machismo" clown....

Clearly, you are a bad man not to be trifled with. Bet you had to google the meaning of machismo.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Fishing for a back and forth tirade, I see. And all because I said:
You and me, see different things, perhaps because I've traveled more, and lived in more places.
It wasn't a declaration, it was a supposition. But by all means, continue fishing. Never know if you will
catch something or not.

Seems like a pretty arrogant statement all the same.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Fishing for a back and forth tirade, I see. And all because I said:
You and me, see different things, perhaps because I've traveled more, and lived in more places.
It wasn't a declaration, it was a supposition. But by all means, continue fishing. Never know if you will
catch something or not.

It reads presumptuous, fwiw.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Clearly, you are a bad man not to be trifled with. Bet you had to google the meaning of machismo.

*rolls coal in HOSS*

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Who said no consequences? Bring back paddling, punishment is part of the teaching moment. Our problem is we use a sledge hammer on kids when a fly swatter would do more good.

Beating kids isn't the solution.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Who said no consequences? Bring back paddling, punishment is part of the teaching moment. Our problem is we use a sledge hammer on kids when a fly swatter would do more good.

Shock collars.