The State of the Union Speech..

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9... Every American should be proud that this man is president. 3 trillion dollar deficit when he got the job (1.3 from just Bush, then 1.7 from bailouts signed in by Bush 1 month before he left). He's being constructive and trying to get away from the "you lose, I win" way of Washington. It seems the right is too fed up because he hasn't fixed their mess yet.
 
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Majorvol23 said:
9... Every American should be proud that this man is president. 3 trillion dollar deficit when he got the job (1.3 from just Bush, then 1.7 from bailouts signed in by Bush 1 month before he left). He's being constructive and trying to get away from the "you lose, I win" way of Washington. It seems the right is too fed up because he hasn't fixed their mess yet.
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I'm not sure anything in this post was right. The opinion was at least neutral.
 
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You're right Major, I forgot that he blamed Bush again last night.......thanks for reminding me.


carry on......
 
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I'll ask again, anybody have any thoughts on the "education" portion of the speech?
 
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"Me, I, me, I, me I" Count the times he used the personal nouns.

The guy is a narcisstic empty suit.

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As far as I'm concerned education is a service. It should be paid for by the individual. I don't like the idea of paying for someone's education on top of all the other crap I have to pay for.
 
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The bailout from Bush? Seems that the "genius" we have now was on board for that bailout. Didn't he vote for it and say it was good? Didn't he vote for many policies that added to that deficit? Weren't there Dems in Congress just as responsible for that debt including Obama? Amazing how Bush is the only one blamed for this. You'd think he was Caesar. Last I checked the Constitution, he is only part of the government. Seeing as how the Dems have been in control of Congress a few votes during Bush's 8 years, I'd say they have some of the blame as well. And correct me if I am wrong but Obama was in Congress for part of that time as well. Oh...but wait. That's right. He shirked his duty and missed most of his votes.

Seems to be a pattern with him. He loves giving a good speech but just cannot seem to get in and roll those sleeves up.
 
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besides, isn't this what he fought so hard for? he knew what he was getting into and still can't stop blaming the previous admin. instead of actually doing something about it.
 
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Majorvol23 said:
9... Every American should be proud that this man is president. 3 trillion dollar deficit when he got the job (1.3 from just Bush, then 1.7 from bailouts signed in by Bush 1 month before he left). He's being constructive and trying to get away from the "you lose, I win" way of Washington. It seems the right is too fed up because he hasn't fixed their mess yet.
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Funny how this was exactly his MO until the public let their opinion be known in recent elections.

How can you type this stuff and really believe it?
 
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BPV:



If you were a senator. I would say you were the perfect example of whats wrong with Washington.
 
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orangeblooded2 said:
Originally Posted by orangeblooded2

Points.


Seemed willing to listen to alternative measures on health care. Stating if you have a better ideal show me.

** what a crock. He doesn't want anything but a public option. Moreover, his base assumption that a government solution is necessary makes him unqualified to be even a dumbass senator, much less president. **


Promised tax credits on small business who invest in equipment or who hire new employees. To eliminate the Capital gains tax for companies.

**. Senseless, since his FED and FDIC have removed all credit from the market. Nobody's making capital investment, to include real hiring. **

Said he was issuing a executive order, were the senate had failed to create a bipartisan commission on job creation.

**. Great. Another horeshat DC circle jerk **


Dared the opposition to create a culture of a needing super majority to pass anything.

** if you're dumb enough to buy any comments from this uberliberal clown regarding bipartisanship, you deserve him. **


Mocked the opposition when he stated that the proposed Budget freeze would start next year (after snickers) said that's how budgeting works.

** says the moron that gave us stimulus. Forgive everyone if they don't buy his garbage budget talk as he's cruising to a 1.35 trillion deficit next year. **


Taking it upon his self to meet with the republican caucus every month.

** hook us up with those meeting notes. Best I've heard, he gloats about being president. Productivity at its finest. next meeting he has that isn't lipservice with be his first. **


Absolutely skewered Washington's political culture. stating that he was talking to both parties (with some noticeable miffedness) when he did so.

see **

as to the last point, MFing please. he's a product of that idiotic culture. The clown has voted kneejerk liberal at every turn. GTFO.

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If you were a senator. I would say you were the perfect example of whats wrong with Washington.
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I agree there is a problem with the culture in Washington, Obama is as much a part of that problem as any other elected official.
 
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My overall sense was that the speech was designed to a) appeal to micor concerns of most folks, ie how to pay for college, b) put GOP on the defensive, so that if for example they don't meet and work with him and things don't get done, it will be their fault; c) he's saying enough with the big ideas, let's cut through the red tape on the day to day stuff and the big things will fall into place.
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1 or less if it was feasible.

While campaigning he said he would not freeze govt. spending. He changed his tune last night. He freezes spending and will save $250 billion over a ten year period. Brilliant. So, the next 3 years budgets can't be trimmed because of the freeze while the deficit continues to grow.

He's still clinging to health care. Poll after poll has shown America doesn't want this, but he's going to fight for us and not walk away.

Don't ask don't tell. I think he's setting up people to get hurt. If someone wants to be gay, that's their choice. It doesn't hurt me. There are people who will not accept open gays in the military.

He seemed completely phony to me. While putting the health care bill together he hid in the backrooms with Reid and the libs. Brown gets elected and now he wants to reach across the party line and be all warm and fuzzy with the Repubs.
 
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so your point "B" sounds like he is passing the buck. Am I reading that right LG?
 
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KB5252 said:
Funny how this was exactly his MO until the public let their opinion be known in recent elections.

How can you type this stuff and really believe it?
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As far as the recent election, that democrat in Boston was a horrible candidate and she didn't deserve to win. Not sure if it reflects sentiments nationwide, although the media reports it that way...

And I believe what I type for the same reason everyone else does. It's my opinion.
 
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lawgator1 said:
My overall sense was that the speech was designed to a) appeal to micor concerns of most folks, ie how to pay for college, b) put GOP on the defensive, so that if for example they don't meet and work with him and things don't get done, it will be their fault; c) he's saying enough with the big ideas, let's cut through the red tape on the day to day stuff and the big things will fall into place.
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+1
 
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Just a few thoughts. I didn't watch much because I felt my blood pressure rising so I can't give you a total synoposis, but...

Was Biden drunk?

I'm still trying to see where he is the great unifier ready to overcome partisian efforts in DC. He seems to be 10 times more polar that Bush ever thought about being.

That said, the "blame Bush" game is officially old.

I am about as against his 10K student loan plan as one can be.

I thought attacking a Supreme Court decision the way he did in his SOTU speech was in very poor taste...and experts are already saying he's exaggerating it's affects.

Overall, it was the same egotistical, egocentiric Obama. I think he's at least halfway understood that he's not got the green light to push his agenda as much as he would prefer and that he's on a dire course to lose the middle class, if he hasn't already. All in all, I would not have called it the State of the Union address but call it the State of Obama's Poluparity address.

Oh, and Congress should pass a law today that anytime Nancy Pelosi in going to be shown on TV for an hour, it should NOT be allowed to be shown in HD.
 
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lawgator1 said:
My overall sense was that the speech was designed to a) appeal to micor concerns of most folks, ie how to pay for college, b) put GOP on the defensive, so that if for example they don't meet and work with him and things don't get done, it will be their fault; c) he's saying enough with the big ideas, let's cut through the red tape on the day to day stuff and the big things will fall into place.
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Translation: a) we have to give the people something, we made promises and we have to appease our base while trying to appeal to those who are wary of our policies. b) the this is how it is going to work attitude has failed, much of the general public has soured on us and we must appear to be willing to work across party lines. c) we are spinning wheels and getting nowhere, many of our colleagues in Washington are unwilling to stick their necks out and become sure fire casualties in the next elections so we must get something done as our agenda has failed to gain favor amongst the public.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
The bailout from Bush? Seems that the "genius" we have now was on board for that bailout. Didn't he vote for it and say it was good? Didn't he vote for many policies that added to that deficit? Weren't there Dems in Congress just as responsible for that debt including Obama? Amazing how Bush is the only one blamed for this. You'd think he was Caesar. Last I checked the Constitution, he is only part of the government. Seeing as how the Dems have been in control of Congress a few votes during Bush's 8 years, I'd say they have some of the blame as well. And correct me if I am wrong but Obama was in Congress for part of that time as well. Oh...but wait. That's right. He shirked his duty and missed most of his votes.
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Bush goes from bumbling moron to evil mastermind and back amazingly often. For such a moron he certainly was able to control virtually everything - including hurricanes...
 
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Majorvol23 said:
As far as the recent election, that democrat in Boston was a horrible candidate and she didn't deserve to win. Not sure if it reflects sentiments nationwide, although the media reports it that way...

And I believe what I type for the same reason everyone else does. It's my opinion.
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If it were not for the policies Obama has tried to ram down America's throat Democrats could have run a talking turd in clown costume and retained Kennedy's legacy seat in Mass.
 
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KB5252 said:
If it were not for the policies Obama has tried to ram down America's throat Democrats could have run a talking turd in clown costume and retained Kennedy's legacy seat in Mass.
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yea, somehow, obama seemed to think she deserved to win.
 
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lawgator1 said:
My overall sense was that the speech was designed to a) appeal to micor concerns of most folks, ie how to pay for college, b) put GOP on the defensive, so that if for example they don't meet and work with him and things don't get done, it will be their fault; c) he's saying enough with the big ideas, let's cut through the red tape on the day to day stuff and the big things will fall into place.
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It is quite difficult to work wit someone who closes the door to "open meetings" and says only HIS issues are on the table to be discussed. If he wants to work across the aisle, let everything be discussed. et all issues be put forth and stop having partisan meetings on issues.

Problem is his televised healthcare debates, something HE suggested, neer happened. His gatekeepers in Congress make sure the other party is blocked out. Want to work with me on healthcare? Here's my bill. Forget YOUR amendments and speaking time ad only vote up or down on this bill only.

Obama's problem is that he came into office vowing to change this politics as usual behavior but he has made it worse since coming into office. When his own issues get bogged down by his own party, he starts saying that Republicans are the problem and nothing has changed with the culture of DC. Mr. President, you control two branches of government. YOU are the reason for gridlock.

Dems have controlled Congress for 3 years. What have they to show for it?
 
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volinbham said:
Bush goes from bumbling moron to evil mastermind and back amazingly often. For such a moron he certainly was able to control virtually everything - including hurricanes...
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He doesn't cause hurricanes, he just delays relief for 3 days. The US got stuff to Haiti faster than our own country...
 
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