The Third Saturday in October

Would you be in favor of not playing Bama every season?

  • Yes

    Votes: 101 37.8%

  • No

    Votes: 166 62.2%
  • Total voters
    267
#76
#76
volbound1700 said:
I think it is a little more than that, Tennessee as a State is not a huge location for blue chop recruits. Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, and Alabama all hVe more 4 star and 5 star prospects.

UGA and UF have bigger student bodies and reside in states with more people, more media centers, stronger economics, and the. Better recruiting options. UT is at a disadvantage on resources to the other SEC rivals and it is hard to call them elite anymore as a result. Once Georgia, LSU, and others figured out how to recruit in-state, it was game over.

Sure Tennessee could win big with the right coach but we don't have that and thst is very rare.

The Alabama vs. Tennessee rivalry was predicated on both being the top 2 teams in the SEC, I wouldn't call Tennessee the 2nd best program anymore and I don't see that happening in the foreseeable future.
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Exactly this. There is a reason we haven’t won a SEC title in 26 years nearly or have only 5 combined wins against Georgia , Bama and Florida since 2010. Sure bad coaching hires have hurt but the winds of change occurred in college football and we kinda got left behind like Nebraska did although we haven’t fallen to the depths of misery and despair that they have. We are a mid tier program at best upper mid tier on an above average year. I think the fanbase needs to accept that 7-5 or 8-4 will be the norm with the occasional 10-2 season like last year. In the history of our football program we are on average a 8 to 9 win team certainly there have been exceptions like the great runs we had from 1989-2004 and the General Neyland years in the 30’s and early 50’s. Unfortunately I don’t think we will ever witness those runs of great success again. Since 1970 we have only won 5 SEC titles and none this century and only two national titles in 72 years. At some point you have to enough data to call a spade a spade and we aren’t a elite level football program like we were in the 90’s we can be good and consistent and I’m hoping Heupel will be just that for us and never have a losing season here and beat the teams he has to beat on the schedule. But do I think he will ever win a national title here ? No I don’t and that’s ok.
 
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#77
#77
DarkVolder said:
Exactly this. There is a reason we haven’t won a SEC title in 26 years nearly or have only 5 combined wins against Georgia , Bama and Florida since 2010. Sure bad coaching hires have hurt but the winds of change occurred in college football and we kinda got left behind like Nebraska did although we haven’t fallen to the depths of misery and despair that they have. We are a mid tier program at best upper mid tier on an above average year. I think the fanbase needs to accept that 7-5 or 8-4 will be the norm with the occasional 10-2 season like last year. In the history of our football program we are on average a 8 to 9 win team certainly there have been exceptions like the great runs we had from 1989-2004 and the General Neyland years in the 30’s and early 50’s. Unfortunately I don’t think we will ever witness those runs of great success again. Since 1970 we have only won 5 SEC titles and none this century and only two national titles in 72 years. At some point you have to enough data to call a spade a spade and we aren’t a elite level football program like we were in the 90’s we can be good and consistent and I’m hoping Heupel will be just that for us and never have a losing season here and beat the teams he has to beat on the schedule. But do I think he will ever win a national title here ? No I don’t and that’s ok.
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Only problem with that, he is being paid like a coach that can win or challenge for a championship. I know the deck is stacked aginst the Vols in the SEC, but he needs to at least make an occasional playoff appearance to justify the pay or move to a lesser conference like the ACC to better the chances.
 
#79
#79
DarkVolder said:
...we kinda got left behind like Nebraska...We are a mid tier program at best upper mid tier...the fanbase needs to accept that 7-5 or 8-4 will be the norm...we aren’t a elite level football program...do I think [Heupel] will ever win a national title here ? No I don’t and that’s ok.....
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I had doubts about you before.

But now I'm pretty sure. You're not a Vol fan. You're a troll pretending to be one of us.

I don't think you're IknoxvolsI though. He at least had a sense of humor when caught. You're just grinding and grinding.

Which makes me believe he was a Florida fan, but you're a closet Georgia fan. The Dawgs are all similarly humorless.

Get behind me, Satan.

Go Vols!
 
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#80
#80
We have seen strength of schedule means absolutely nothing in the playoff era. There really isn’t any advantage to playing Bama anymore. It will make our path to making the playoffs and potentially a championship easier to not play them. I am all for it. Besides Saban is at the end of his career. Wins over them now doesn’t hold the like of weight they would have 5-10 years ago.

I say we make our schedules as easy as possible like teams like UGA and Clemson do. Heck for the longest time Bamas schedules were very easy. I want to win.
 
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#81
#81
VFL-82-JP said:
I had doubts about you before.

But now I'm pretty sure. You're not a Vol fan. You're a troll pretending to be one of us.

I don't think you're IknoxvolsI though. He at least had a sense of humor when caught. You're just grinding and grinding.

Which makes me believe he was a Florida fan, but you're a closet Georgia fan. The Dawgs are all similarly humorless.

Get behind me, Satan.

Go Vols!
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Oh yea cause I have a different opinion and you don’t agree with me well of course that must mean I’m a Georgia fan lol
 
#85
#85
In the 25 years between the good fortune of having the two best coaches in college football history, Alabama was a program that went through seven coaches (including one that never stepped on the sideline); couldn’t lure Rich Rodriquez away from West Virginia; couldn’t lure Frank Beamer away from Virginia Tech; and was used as a stepping stone job by Dennis Franchione to get to Texas A&M. Their misery only overcame when they had to pay Saban two and a half times the highest paid coaching salary at the time to put up with all things Alabama.

The only success they had during those 25 years was during the Stallings Era, which was marred with sanctions.

Keep them on the schedule. Post Saban desperation will be fun to watch first-hand
 
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#90
#90
From 1995-2006 we were 10-2 against Bama with a 7 game win streak at one point.

We broke their streak last year and it was the best moment I've ever experienced in Neyland stadium. I say we keep at it.

Also, by definition, I'm a millennial. So I don't know anything before the 90's.
 
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#91
#91
MEDVOL said:
From 1995-2006 we were 10-2 against Bama with a 7 game win streak at one point.

We broke their streak last year and it was the best moment I've ever experienced in Neyland stadium. I say we keep at it.

Also, by definition, I'm a millennial. So I don't know anything before the 90's.
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We also have beaten them more times than anyone else!!!!
The worm will turn again one day, probably when Saban retires,
I say play them every year!
To be the best you got to beat the best!
Never shy away from competition, ESPECIALLY in a highly competitive environment such as football……….
 
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#93
#93
modernVol said:
kinda silly argument. What you do in the 50s isn't relevant in 2023
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Or in the 30’s or 40’s. We certainly have a great history of winning football but it’s just that history you have to look at the present and the future and where are football program is in 2023. We have only beaten Bama 6 times since 2000. It’s time to get them off the schedule every year and that alone would help our playoff chances with it expanding to 12 teams.
 
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#94
#94
number1volfanfrom76 said:
I "Payback!" But with Sanky, the SEC HQ in Birmingham and their trained Bama refs (so obvious this past year) when can we ever win? You thin Satan retiring will give us a chance? Ha! No Way! Not until all the above is fixed!
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YEP, I've said it before all the ppl that work at the Birmingate SEC Office, guess what they go out to eat lunch in Birmingham. They have their Cocktails in Birmingham. All their new friends and acquaintances are wearing the Crimson Red. They walk the sidewalks and are not hearing go Vols or ppl wearing the Vol Orange around the City. They are seeing Red and every person muttering Roll Tide. Even UT grad Finebum said although I graduated at Tennessee being in Alabama all these years has meant the world to me and I hold a special place in my heart for my ppl, they have really supported me.
 
#95
#95
DarkVolder said:
Or in the 30’s or 40’s. We certainly have a great history of winning football but it’s just that history you have to look at the present and the future and where are football program is in 2023. We have only beaten Bama 6 times since 2000. It’s time to get them off the schedule every year and that alone would help our playoff chances with it expanding to 12 teams.
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We are going to have to get used to some of the fans on here thinking with their hearts and clinging on to outdated traditions even in spite a new dawning of college football and when the old traditions no longer makes sense.

I'm just glad our ancestors didn't cling and hold on to the old traditions, or we would all still be stucked in Europe watching their brand of football.
 
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#96
#96
loservol said:
We are going to have to get used to some of the fans on here thinking with their hearts and clinging on to outdated traditions even in spite a new dawning of college football and when the old traditions no longer makes sense.
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If it means us making the playoff by dropping playing Bama every year them i’m all for it. I just want to win.
 
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#97
#97
Note: when the primary person agreeing with you is named "loservol," you should question your position.

And now: when the primary person agreeing with you is named "darkvolder," you should question your position.

It's becoming like an echo chamber of trollishness in this thread.

Go Vols!
 
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#99
#99
loservol said:
If Heupel was truthful, he probably be all for giving up the Alabama game and moving over to the ACC. His laid back approached to coaching and recruiting doesn't properly align with the SEC style of coach.
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screen name checks out.
 
#100
#100
Vol Farmer said:
Why do people keep changing traditions
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I went to the Oregon game when we played them out there. We were walking around the campus and their practice facilities and such and I remember seeing a big sign somewhere that said something like: Tradition is dead idea. (I wish I could remember exactly what it said) At least they put their money where their mouth is by having no tradition whatsoever.

Of course the thing that made college football so much better than the pro game is dying right before our eyes, so.....


But at least they have figured out how to shorten the games.
 
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