The Thread Where People Argue About Kneeling in the NFL (merged)

Completely agree. Although lets not act like that happens all the time.
Yes, it happens all the time. Cops constantly abuse their authority. They can never be trusted. The militarized police force will put two in your chest before you know it if they suspect you of anything.
 
Yes, it happens all the time. Cops constantly abuse their authority. They can never be trusted. The militarized police force will put two in your chest before you know it if they suspect you of anything.

You are way over simplifying things..... it is way more complicated than that out on our streets..... have you watched any of the videos where the police invite community leaders to go through some of their training.
 
You are way over simplifying things..... it is way more complicated than that out on our streets..... have you watched any of the videos where the police invite community leaders to go through some of their training.
No, I haven't seen those videos. Not sure what that will prove. I mean you take green, young and middle aged folks through a snippet of training and that is supposed to prove something? Of course they are going to look foolish.
Interesting that you said "our streets."
 
No, I haven't seen those videos. Not sure what that will prove. I mean you take green, young and middle aged folks through a snippet of training and that is supposed to prove something? Of course they are going to look foolish.
Interesting that you said "our streets."
I meant American streets.... not sure what you are trying to imply.... it sounds like you already have your mind made up and don’t actually care about trying to fix any problems.... real or perceived
 
No, I haven't seen those videos. Not sure what that will prove. I mean you take green, young and middle aged folks through a snippet of training and that is supposed to prove something? Of course they are going to look foolish.
Interesting that you said "our streets."
Yeah, I noticed that. I couldn't tell if he meant the streets in his city or the streets are owned by the cops.
 
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You are way over simplifying things..... it is way more complicated than that out on our streets..... have you watched any of the videos where the police invite community leaders to go through some of their training.
Meh, not sure how much value those events are in the overall scheme of things outside of a feel good photo opportunity for the cops. Not sure how much long lasting positivity you can really draw from that, however.
 
Meh, not sure how much value those events are in the overall scheme of things outside of a feel good photo opportunity for the cops. Not sure how much long lasting positivity you can really draw from that, however.

I wasn’t going for the feel good opportunity but to show that cops are humans and not robota. The one in particular that stuck with me. There was a black community leader that was protesting outside his local police department about police shootings...... They invited him inside to talk about the issues and then eventually through their training scenarios....He started out heaitating to pull the trigger and kept getting shot over and over again.By the end of the training, he was shooting first and even running with the gun behind him shooting at random. I’m saying that bc how many times can a person be shot at hit, hit by a bullet, be next to someone that’s hit by a bullet before it speeds up their reaction time until it leads to some of these issues where the guy ends up not having a gun but a different object in his hand?
 
Meh, not sure how much value those events are in the overall scheme of things outside of a feel good photo opportunity for the cops. Not sure how much long lasting positivity you can really draw from that, however.
you don't see the value because you will never have to make that decision. It shows these community leaders that a) the police department does not take the situation lightly. b) that a split second decision is the difference between you or partner seeing your or their wife and children or meeting your maker. c) that without the training, making the wrong decisions are remarkably likely to occur and to make the wrong decision less than 7% of all fatalities and 0.0000053907% of all arrests is a pretty decent number. Before you screech about it, OF COURSE WE ALL PREFER IT TO BE LOWER. But it's not a major problem.

Again, you want to talk incarceration rate and sentencing, sure let's dive into it. Perhaps there is reform required But fatalities are low.

For some more perspective, already this year, about 900 people have died in car accidents in Georgia alone. I would wager distracted driving caused more deaths in the state of Georgia than unarmed shootings by the police in the entire country. Over 40,000 people died in a car accident in 2017 and 4.57 million seriously injured. THAT is a problem.
 
Seems like there are a hell of a lot more white people then black peoples in this country. So of course they get arrested more. Look at incarceration as a percentage of population.

Isn’t it proportionate though compared to the amount of crime committed.... 52% of all homicides is commited by african-Americans and 38.5% of all violent crimes are commited by African-Americans?
 
they typically skimp on back up QBs..... my favorite team pays theirs 2 mill a year and really the only decently paid ones was guys that the original team signed hoping he would start and he wasn’t good enough......imo Colin is a guy you don’t sign until you have a team that can make a serious run in the playoffs and you need a veteran late in the season bc of an injury.

How is $2M skimping? It's a lot of scratch for a guy that's probably not going to play. Teams will cut a defensive starter for that much because they can pay a rookie $800k. Less than half the guys on my team make $2m
 
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How is $2M skimping? It's a lot of scratch for a guy that's probably not going to play. Teams will cut a defensive starter for that much because they can pay a rookie $800k. Less than half the guys on my team make $2m

He makes 21 mill less than the starting QB..... the only starters he makes more than is guys under their rookie deals.... heck he even makes less than the starting kicker.... it’s also the reason the Steelers are having discussions to possibly cut him and go with the two cheaper options.
 
2 simple things:

1. Get the govt out of the business of families and bring fathers/husbands back into the homes where we don't have as many people that have to encounter the police so often because they are raised in a stable household with structure. As long as the govt incentivises women to have women without needing a father in the home (welfare, child support, alimony), then we will have Chicagos and Baltimores burning for a long time.

2. Return to the original principles of the Bill of Rights and stop the growth of this fascist police state.
Absolutely agree with point 1. However, the liberal mindset doesn't want that. IT would actually get those dependent upon the .gov off the plantation so to speak. As to point 2, we are a long way from a fascist police state.
 
He makes 21 mill less than the starting QB..... the only starters he makes more than is guys under their rookie deals.... heck he even makes less than the starting kicker.... it’s also the reason the Steelers are having discussions to possibly cut him and go with the two cheaper options.

Who is your team?
 
Totally, completely agree on number 2.
Point one is too simplistic. The goal is to have loving, attentive parents. There isn't any program that can force that.
You are correct, but providing unlimited 'support' to single parenting does nothing to dis-incentivise that behavior. Stop tax deductions, payments for any more than 2 children.
 
Absolutely agree with point 1. However, the liberal mindset doesn't want that. IT would actually get those dependent upon the .gov off the plantation so to speak. As to point 2, we are a long way from a fascist police state.
Asset forfeiture, TSA rub and tugs at the airport, cops able to harass you over reefer or tinted windows, grilling with charcoal in a park...
 
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Asset forfeiture, TSA rub and tugs at the airport, cops able to harass you over reefer or tinted windows, grilling with charcoal in a park...
over dramatize much? And fwiw, I think weed should be legal, but if you are dealing meth/heroin, you go away for a long, long time.
 
over dramatize much? And fwiw, I think weed should be legal, but if you are dealing meth/heroin, you go away for a long, long time.
Is it a coincidence that the domestic opioid epidemic seems to correlate to the introduction of troops in Afghanistan? Who would you be willing to lock up "for a long, long time" in that case?
 

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