The Tiger Woods saga

#302
#302
doozer said:
nope sorry. i'm sure people have been caught in dumber ways. again, big deal.

Steve Stricker said it best when he questioned whether it's even any of our business. his consensus was it isn't.



...for the next six months, or until he starts winning again.

hell, if Mike Vick can redeem himself, Tiger is going to come out of this looking like freaking saint.
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If this was something that had happened behind closed doors and they worked this out privately then he would be correct. The fact that it spilled over into the streets and ultimately involved the police changes things a little. As I have said before I am no fan of people being hounded by the media over private matters but when your garbage hits the streets it is public domain when you are a celebrity.

I don't feel one ounce of pity for Tiger, he is not the victim here, he did this to himself.
 
#303
#303
KB5252 said:
If this was something that had happened behind closed doors and they worked this out privately then he would be correct. The fact that it spilled over into the streets and ultimately involved the police changes things a little. As I have said before I am no fan of people being hounded by the media over private matters but when your garbage hits the streets it is public domain when you are a celebrity.

I don't feel one ounce of pity for Tiger, he is not the victim here, he did this to himself.
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nope, again, sorry. it's simply isn't.

if my neighbor got into a fight with his wife and drove his Prius into a tree in my yard it wouldn't give the right to pry into his personal life.
 
#304
#304
I'm at the only one that really just doesnt care? I watch sports to get away from soap opera crap thats on every other channel. Why dont they discuss this on ET or TMZ
 
#305
#305
doozer said:
nope, again, sorry. it's simply isn't.

if my neighbor got into a fight with his wife and drove his Prius into a tree in my yard it wouldn't give the right to pry into his personal life.
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Your neighbor is not a celebrity who gets paid for his image as well and star quality, at least it isn't very likely anyway. Like it or not life is full of double standards, stars get special treatment that the average Joe doesn't, they also get more scrutiny than the average Joe. You may not think it's fair but it is a part of the game and every star and celebrity knows that going in. They certainly don't complain about all the positive press, why should the negative press be any different?

If it was your neighbor who had driven his car into a tree he would have been given a blood test at the hospital and if the police suspected there had been any domestic issues going on they would have demanded entry into the house to make sure nobody was hurt. The police handled this differently than they would have if this was the average blue collar guy. Tiger certainly wasn't complaining about the special treatment he got there, why should he complain when he gets extra scrutiny from the media?
 
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KB5252 said:
Your neighbor is not a celebrity who gets paid for his image as well and star quality, at least it isn't very likely anyway. Like it or not life is full of double standards, stars get special treatment that the average Joe doesn't, they also get more scrutiny than the average Joe. You may not think it's fair but it is a part of the game and every star and celebrity knows that going in. They certainly don't complain about all the positive press, why should the negative press be any different?

If it was your neighbor who had driven his car into a tree he would have been given a blood test at the hospital and if the police suspected there had been any domestic issues going on they would have demanded entry into the house to make sure nobody was hurt. The police handled this differently than they would have if this was the average blue collar guy. Tiger certainly wasn't complaining about the special treatment he got there, why should he complain when he gets extra scrutiny from the media?
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no they don't.

you really need to get over this. may i suggest the same counselor Tiger and his wife are seeing?
 
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#308
Urinal Mint said:
I'm at the only one that really just doesnt care? I watch sports to get away from soap opera crap thats on every other channel. Why dont they discuss this on ET or TMZ
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I don't care one way or another. I don't watch golf and I have no opinion Tiger positive or negative, I do know he is great at what he does.

What my issue with this is that there are many either outright saying or implying that Tiger is being treated unfairly and I'm not buying it. Perhaps his wife and kids (if he has any) are being treated unfairly and I do have pity for them. For his families sake I hope this blows over quickly. As far as Tiger goes I have no pity or sympathy what so ever, I believe he brought this on himself.
 
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doozer said:
...for the next six months, or until he starts winning again.

hell, if Mike Vick can redeem himself, Tiger is going to come out of this looking like freaking saint.
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This wasn't one affair...not a single mistake. This was multiple, simultaneous affairs.

The public will forgive. He'll be fine...but never the same.

His image was perfect. Now he's golf's greatest lothario.
 
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#310
doozer said:
no they don't.

you really need to get over this. may i suggest the same counselor Tiger and his wife are seeing?
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Are you seriously going to tell me that celebrities are unaware that much of their life is going to be played out in the public eye? That scandals are going to be reported on when the press gets wind? Especially when we have seen it played out time and again with other stars and celebrities? You want me to believe that a slightly intelligent person could be that naive?
 
#311
#311
what do tiger woods and baby seals have in common?


they are both clubbed by Norwegians.
 
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KB5252 said:
Are you seriously going to tell me that celebrities are unaware that much of their life is going to be played out in the public eye? That scandals are going to be reported on when the press gets wind? Especially when we have seen it played out time and again with other stars and celebrities? You want me to believe that a slightly intelligent person could be that naive?
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let's use somebody as an example whose life (mistakes) is seemingly played out in public almost every single day.

you want me to believe that somebody sat down with Lindsay Lohan when she was 11 years old an explained to her that if she did this movie she would be famous and her life would exploited from this point on? and then you want me to believe that she understood that at 11 years old that her future actions would be played out in public because she was about to become famous?

please.

take out Lohan and insert Spears, Hilton, etc...it's all the same.
 
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volmanbill said:
Perhaps...but...the Parneviks were her "friend" first and I would think in a close way. It's natural for them to show her support.

As popular as Tiger is among the public, don't be fooled into thinking he is popular among his fellow tour members.
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he isn't unpopular among the players.

Jesper just thinks the guy is a sleazeball and said so because he feels partly to blame for Elin's likely pain.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
he isn't unpopular among the players.

Jesper just thinks the guy is a sleazeball and said so because he feels partly to blame for Elin's likely pain.
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i've always been under the impression he's actually liked in the clubhouse and loathed by the media for his programmed responses whereas it's the complete with Phil Mickelson.
 
#321
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doozer said:
i've always been under the impression he's actually liked in the clubhouse and loathed by the media for his programmed responses whereas it's the complete with Phil Mickelson.
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and that's the gist of it. Might have changed some over time with the sympathy for Phil's family.
 
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#322
doozer said:
if my neighbor got into a fight with his wife and drove his Prius into a tree in my yard it wouldn't give the right to pry into his personal life.
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Maybe not, but if your neighbor got paid $100 million every year to be the face of a half-dozen of the world's most influential companies, you can bet the press would be all over it.
 
#323
#323
KB5252 said:
What my issue with this is that there are many either outright saying or implying that Tiger is being treated unfairly and I'm not buying it.
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You aren't buying it because it isn't unfair.

The guy is paid un-Godly amounts of money to be in the spotlight. He has nurtured and developed that situation to his own advantage. He can't expect the spotlight to be turned off now that he has done something unpopular.
 
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For what it's worth I do believe there is a certain element out there who do want to see his name drug through the mud. For the vast majority though this is more about about a very high profile guy with a very clean cut, family guy image and the realization it was a sham. Our society is intrigued by these kinds of stories for some reason. This isn't all that much different than the various scandals involving people in various faith based ministries, politicians, actors, musicians and what have you.

The only innocent people here are his family, save maybe his wife who most probably tried to brain Tiger with a golf club but even she is a victim in some sense here. It is kind of ironic that had she not gone after Tiger this would likely have never been made public. I seriously doubt discretion was a huge concern for her at that moment, or at least it appears that way.
 
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cotton said:
You aren't buying it because it isn't unfair.

The guy is paid un-Godly amounts of money to be in the spotlight. He has nurtured and developed that situation to his own advantage. He can't expect the spotlight to be turned off now that he has done something unpopular.
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I buy that argument. However, I'm with doozer in that I can't believe so many people actually give a crap. Sad commentary on our society.
 
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