The Tiger Woods saga

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volfanbill said:
Tiger was as good a ball striker the PGA has ever caught on film. The game was the game long before Jack and will be long after Tiger. Tiger would've still been there. In his prime, Tiger could have played with featheries and beaten Hagen and Jones. And just quit before you throw out Moe Norman. No one was good from tee to green in the history of the game as Tiger. If he had the putter working as well, nothing, no equipment, field conditions or other players were going to stop him.
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The only things that could have ever stopped Tiger, stopped Tiger. His swing and himself.
 
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#1,854
volfanbill said:
ah, old people denial. Always fun.
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I am not denying anything. I said that Tiger and Jack would be at the top, and would beat each other often if they were in the same era. Championship golf is played mostly between the ears. It's not all about ball striking. Nicklaus didn't look as impressive hitting the golf ball as did Weiskopf.

Tiger would have eclipsed all records ( he almost has anyway) if he had kept his same swing that won the Masters by 12, even though he had a tremendous year in 2000 after the swing change. Also, if he hadn't tried to bulk up, he probably wouldn't have been injured as much. he has a nice, natural looking, high hands, leverage golf swing when he first came out.

I never said that Nicklaus was better or worse than Tiger, but I don't think that Tiger was a very consistent ball striker. He was, and may still be a winner though.

I don't believe that you can compare champions of different eras, unless they tee it up against each other several times in each one's prime. He is absolutely, no question, the best golfer for about a 12-15 year period, but not the best ball striker.
 
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#1,859
volfanbill said:
lol. Man 72 has flopped more in five minutes than the fish I caught the other day.
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1)Show me where I flopped.

2)Show me where I said that Nicklaus was better than Tiger, and changed my mind.

3)Show me where I said Woods was merely a chipper and putter.

4) Show me where I said that Woods was a great ball striker then changed my mind.

5) Let's see the quotes.
 
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#1,861
Ernest T. Vol said:
"He's (Jack) the greatest champion that's ever lived."
-Tiger Woods
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Jack was good enough to beat all of his contemporaries many times. Tiger was too. That is about the only comparison that you can make. Was Barry Sanders better than Jim Brown? Was Otto Graham better than Manning? Who really knows?
 
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1972 Grad said:
Jack was good enough to beat all of his contemporaries many times. Tiger was too. That is about the only comparison that you can make. Was Barry Sanders better than Jim Brown? Was Otto Graham better than Manning? Who really knows?
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Bob Jones said as much when he mentioned, "You can only beat the players around when you played". But looking at the contemporaries makes the case even more for Jack. Tiger's contemporaries didnt step up in multiple majors except for Phil and Ernie. But look at who Jack had: Gary Player (nine majors), Tom Watson (eight), Arnold Palmer (seven), Lee Trevino (six) and Seve Ballesteros (five). Jack finished second more than 10 times to players on this list and has 19 seconds in majors overall. Woods' runner-up finishes have been to: Trevor Immelman, Zach Johnson, Rich Beem, Y.E. Yang and Michael Campbell. Good golfers but no hall of famers (except maybe Johnson).
 
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#1,868
that's true..it's long

cliff notes...tiger did fun shiit with the seals, cheated on his wife..battled injuries, and probably won't win another Major
 
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GAVol said:
Saw that last week. Great article and worth the read.
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It actually explains a lot. He has a reputation of being a d-bag but it sounds like it's more due to him being extremely introverted. I don't mean the cheating part, that's definitely d-bag, I mean how he interacts with people. If he's that introverted, then it's not surprising the numerous comments that he's really weird.

It's also wild to think that in an alternate universe, he does get red hot in 2006, breaks the majors record, then retires and joins the Navy.

I did laugh at the eyerolls he got when he said he'd be a SEAL if not for golf. Yeah.....maybe he should have said he would have tried to be a SEAL.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
It actually explains a lot. He has a reputation of being a d-bag but it sounds like it's more due to him being extremely introverted. I don't mean the cheating part, that's definitely d-bag, I mean how he interacts with people. If he's that introverted, then it's not surprising the numerous comments that he's really weird.

It's also wild to think that in an alternate universe, he does get red hot in 2006, breaks the majors record, then retires and joins the Navy.

I did laugh at the eyerolls he got when he said he'd be a SEAL if not for golf. Yeah.....maybe he should have said he would have tried to be a SEAL.
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interesting quote in there too, when he asked Jeter and MJ, how they talked to girls...it's a perfect response
 
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on a related note. I really hate this thread. This is like the 9th time I've actually defended Tigger.
 
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