The vaunted Stetson Bennett makes the draft at #128.

[Otis1105]

Apply for medical school without a bachelor's degree.

I don’t think you can. But you can apply to pharmacy, OT, maybe PT, and I think PA school.

 

[GroverCleveland]

I don’t think you can. But you can apply to pharmacy, OT, maybe PT, and I think PA school.

Just asking for a friend, but would a degree in English, humanities, or women’s studies be a pre-requisite for med school?

 

[Otis1105]

Just asking for a friend, but would a degree in English, humanities, or women’s studies be a pre-requisite for med school?

what do I look like? Your academic advisor? But I’ll play, it’s a light day before a holiday at work. With a humanities major and then a bunch of classes in A&P, Organic Chem, inorganic chem and biology. Maybe A physics and Calc. You may end up accidentally majoring in a science in the process (not a real academic advisor). For OT school my wife had to say she was double major in psychology for a year because that’s the only way she was allowed to sign up for the org and inorganic chem classes. Then when she got those credits dropped the act. I actually don’t know how she wasn’t a science major because the only pre-req for medschool that her OT school didn’t require was calc. And she wouldn’t have passed calc or not with a high enough grade. so couldn’t be a Dr. For your application essay you could write about how your knowledge of ancient humanity’s art, history, and lit has given you a compassion for all peoples and cultures and you long to serve the ancestors of these great civilizations. And your understanding of these people suits the skills that will be developed as you embark on a D.O. Medical license. That’s all you get for free.

 

[BowlBrother85]

I hate to, ugh, judge before all the facts are in but, ugh, these two statements appear to be contradictory. Wouldn't a degree required for admission to medical school, by definition, be useful?

How so? A bachelor's degree can be useful ... and not so much. Depends heavily on career objectives and the person. Some people on here just like to argue over literally any damn thing. It's annoying.

 

[GroverCleveland]

what do I look like? Your academic advisor? But I’ll play, it’s a light day before a holiday at work. With a humanities major and then a bunch of classes in A&P, Organic Chem, inorganic chem and biology. Maybe A physics and Calc. You may end up accidentally majoring in a science in the process (not a real academic advisor). For OT school my wife had to say she was double major in psychology for a year because that’s the only way she was allowed to sign up for the org and inorganic chem classes. Then when she got those credits dropped the act. I actually don’t know how she wasn’t a science major because the only pre-req for medschool that her OT school didn’t require was calc. And she wouldn’t have passed calc or not with a high enough grade. so couldn’t be a Dr. For your application essay you could write about how your knowledge of ancient humanity’s art, history, and lit has given you a compassion for all peoples and cultures and you long to serve the ancestors of these great civilizations. And your understanding of these people suits the skills that will be developed as you embark on a D.O. Medical license. That’s all you get for free.

LOL! Sorry, did not realize how much I was asking for. However, many thanks for this insight. It has been a long time since school, the last being graduate school in my early 30s and don't know what has changed, not that I knew that much about applying to med school to begin with (got the BBA and proceeded on to the world of business). But it sounds like a pure humanities degree isn't going to get one there.

 

[rjd970]

LOL! Sorry, did not realize how much I was asking for. However, many thanks for this insight. It has been a long time since school, the last being graduate school in my early 30s and don't know what has changed, not that I knew that much about applying to med school to begin with (got the BBA and proceeded on to the world of business). But it sounds like a pure humanities degree isn't going to get one there.

Back in my college days I knew a guy who was a Mormon missionary that served his mission in Portugal. Obviously spoke Portuguese fluently after living there for 2 years.

He majored in Portuguese but took all the prerequisite med school classes - biology, chem, org chem, microbiology, etc - took the MCAT and scored well enough to get into Med school. The Portuguese major was an easy GPA booster and allowed him to focus on the med school classes. So I think if you take the required science courses and score well enough on the MCAT it doesn't matter what your major is. This was like 20 years ago, so I don't know if it has changed.

 

[VolNExile]

Back in my college days I knew a guy who was a Mormon missionary that served his mission in Portugal. Obviously spoke Portuguese fluently after living there for 2 years.

He majored in Portuguese but took all the prerequisite med school classes - biology, chem, org chem, microbiology, etc - took the MCAT and scored well enough to get into Med school. The Portuguese major was an easy GPA booster and allowed him to focus on the med school classes. So I think if you take the required science courses and score well enough on the MCAT it doesn't matter what your major is. This was like 20 years ago, so I don't know if it has changed.

No, it hasn’t. Medical schools are interested in their specific course - not major - prerequisites, which you’d dang better have done well in, and they’re interested in your general all-round knowledge, and they’re interested in what you find important and, yes, interesting, and in what you have done in your life that especially demonstrates your drive, your organizational skills, and most importantly, what you have done that at least seems to show your dedication to improving the lives of others.

Figuring out which specialties pay the best is a separate matter that med school students deal with later.

They don’t give a rat’s about whether you majored in biology or psych or painting or Ancient Mediterranean Civilizations if you did the academic prereqs. Possibly, it makes an applicant stand out a bit from the others.

 

[GroverCleveland]

Back in my college days I knew a guy who was a Mormon missionary that served his mission in Portugal. Obviously spoke Portuguese fluently after living there for 2 years.

He majored in Portuguese but took all the prerequisite med school classes - biology, chem, org chem, microbiology, etc - took the MCAT and scored well enough to get into Med school. The Portuguese major was an easy GPA booster and allowed him to focus on the med school classes. So I think if you take the required science courses and score well enough on the MCAT it doesn't matter what your major is. This was like 20 years ago, so I don't know if it has changed.

Yes, I completely understand this approach. Not to be argumentative, but this still supports the position the degree, even if it was a non-STEM degree, was "useful." It was an easy GPA booster while taking the med school classes: utility. The original proposition was (and I may be paraphrasing) even if a degree is useless, one should get one.

My argument is that is senseless. Why not go out and buy a 200-hp John Deere tractor one has zero use for? May be about the same cost. It is a more tangible asset and does have a significant resale value so one could make the case the useless John Deere tractor is better than a useless college degree.

Again, not trying to be argumentative here. Just questioning the logic behind getting a "useless" degree which was made earlier.

 

[GroverCleveland]

Don't look now, but Bennett was the 1st (and only) rookie QB to throw a TD in the NFL preseason.

 

[joevol24]

I'm pretty sure he majored in sorority studies and probably can for the next 40 years if history of Georgia success holds true. I might be wrong, but I don't think that requires a degree.

 

[VAVol85]

Yes, I completely understand this approach. Not to be argumentative, but this still supports the position the degree, even if it was a non-STEM degree, was "useful." It was an easy GPA booster while taking the med school classes: utility. The original proposition was (and I may be paraphrasing) even if a degree is useless, one should get one.

My argument is that is senseless. Why not go out and buy a 200-hp John Deere tractor one has zero use for? May be about the same cost. It is a more tangible asset and does have a significant resale value so one could make the case the useless John Deere tractor is better than a useless college degree.

Again, not trying to be argumentative here. Just questioning the logic behind getting a "useless" degree which was made earlier.

Late to the debate…sorry if comments are off point.

Many employers are fully capable of training their employees. They look at a college degree as evidence that a person has intellectual ability, can be taught, can follow the rules, and can organize their efforts to achieve a goal.

I’m not arguing the effectiveness of this approach (it is an expensive screening tool for the applicant and may not meet the employer’s needs), only that this is one reason some jobs require a degree even if it is a “useless” one.

 

[GroverCleveland]

Late to the debate…sorry if comments are off point.

Many employers are fully capable of training their employees. They look at a college degree as evidence that a person has intellectual ability, can be taught, can follow the rules, and can organize their efforts to achieve a goal.

I’m not arguing the effectiveness of this approach (it is an expensive screening tool for the applicant and may not meet the employer’s needs), only that this is one reason some jobs require a degree even if it is a “useless” one.

This is a good point; at least it was at one time.

What I am seeing is that colleges are no longer teaching critical thinking skills it is heavy on social indoctrination.

I agree with you up to a point and that point is I think higher education has lost its way. Liberals took over the system completely and it is on the edge of being worthless. They demand conformity.

I know a number of wealthy people who never darkened the door of a college classroom. About to go have a cup of coffee with one.

 

[Jax_Vol]

I will give ole Stetson credit. He is a better athlete than I ever thought

However, yeah....I have a broom that could beat him in a spelling bee.

 

[turbovol]

This is a good point; at least it was at one time.

What I am seeing is that colleges are no longer teaching critical thinking skills it is heavy on social indoctrination.

I agree with you up to a point and that point is I think higher education has lost its way. Liberals took over the system completely and it is on the edge of being worthless. They demand conformity.

I know a number of wealthy people who never darkened the door of a college classroom. About to go have a cup of coffee with one.

Did you go to college? Have you any experience working at a college? Or are you just blowing smoke like most right-wingers---lots of opinion, few facts.

 

[ButchPlz]

Did you go to college? Have you any experience working at a college? Or are you just blowing smoke like most right-wingers---lots of opinion, few facts.

Stones in glass houses, speck in the eye/log in the eye, pot and kettle, etc.

 

[volfanbill]

Did you go to college? Have you any experience working at a college? Or are you just blowing smoke like most right-wingers---lots of opinion, few facts.

He has coffee with rich people. I’d watch what you say next. Very easily could be your last words

 

[GroverCleveland]

He has coffee with rich people. I’d watch what you say next. Very easily could be your last words

LoL!

 

[GoVols15]

Did you go to college? Have you any experience working at a college? Or are you just blowing smoke like most right-wingers---lots of opinion, few facts.

I have a Masters level education, worked at a college for eighteen years and can verify GroverCleveland is 100% accurate! You are either ignorant, brainwashed or blind!

 

[VAVol85]

I have a Masters level education, worked at a college for eighteen years and can verify GroverCleveland is 100% accurate! You are either ignorant, brainwashed or blind!

I would be a little reluctant to generalize - there is quite a bit of variation across the colleges in a typical university. The gender studies department is going to have a pretty different outlook on social and academic issues than say the electrical engineering department or the finance department.

 

[Visiting Dawg]

This is a good point; at least it was at one time.

What I am seeing is that colleges are no longer teaching critical thinking skills it is heavy on social indoctrination.

I agree with you up to a point and that point is I think higher education has lost its way. Liberals took over the system completely and it is on the edge of being worthless. They demand conformity.

I know a number of wealthy people who never darkened the door of a college classroom. About to go have a cup of coffee with one.

College/universities still have a place but unless a kid wanted to enter a professional career and also had the aptitude required to complete a STEM degree, even if they weren't pursuing a STEM career, I'd recommend trade school. College isn't and never has been for everyone and you don't need the sheepskin to be a decent sales person or a mid line supervisor but here we are with millions of kids spending 4 or 5 yrs in college and gaining very few marketable skills.

 

[GoVols15]

I would be a little reluctant to generalize - there is quite a bit of variation across the colleges in a typical university. The gender studies department is going to have a pretty different outlook on social and academic issues than say the electrical engineering department or the finance department.

True! However, in the Poly Sci, Psychology, Sociology, etc. areas the socialist liberal bias is overwhelming! Further, administrations by far push the liberal agenda for students. It’s to the point Christian conservatives are reluctant to give their views. This is true of both the employees and students as well.

 

[turbovol]

Bennett became a very good college QB--he showed that over the last 2 years, and against us. He made good decisions, made all the plays
that needed to be made. Of course it helps to be on a team with a stout defense and tons of talent, but the guy played well. He's mobile, smart,
not a great arm, but made the throws he needed to make. Look at the 49ers starting QB--last guy picked in the draft, doesn't have a big arm--but
very effective. I forget what NFL team Bennett's on, but I heard a few days ago that he could become the team's backup QB. We'll see.

 

[Nooga]

Bennett became a very good college QB--he showed that over the last 2 years, and against us. He made good decisions, made all the plays
that needed to be made. Of course it helps to be on a team with a stout defense and tons of talent, but the guy played well. He's mobile, smart,
not a great arm, but made the throws he needed to make. Look at the 49ers starting QB--last guy picked in the draft, doesn't have a big arm--but
very effective. I forget what NFL team Bennett's on, but I heard a few days ago that he could become the team's backup QB. We'll see.

He’s with the Rams and is in good shape to backup Matt Stafford this season. Wouldn’t be shocked to see Stet taking live reps in season since Stafford is often injured.

 

[CAVPUT]

He’s with the Rams and is in good shape to backup Matt Stafford this season. Wouldn’t be shocked to see Stet taking live reps in season since Stafford is often injured.

I agree. Kid is just a player. He won't wow you with his physical tools but neither did Johnny Unitas and Joe Montana. The draft history if full of guys who had every tool you could ask for except the one between the ears which, in my opinion, is the most critical tool in the box for a QB.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

I agree. Kid is just a player. He won't wow you with his physical tools but neither did Johnny Unitas and Joe Montana. The draft history if full of guys who had every tool you could ask for except the one between the ears which, in my opinion, is the most critical tool in the box for a QB.

Meh. He is ok. Let’s be honest though. Would we have ever heard of him had he not played for UGA? Probably not.