The World of Recruiting

[rexvol]

Just read an article in which Coach Scott talks about recruiting and the work involved. I was very impressed by the sheer effort that these guys produce in an effort to reach these kids. In one day he visited Pennsylvania, Virginia, North Carolina and hit Florida.
In one stretch he had 22 hotel nights in 28 days. Then he goes on to say, "We're not tired, so we're not looking for any rest. We just want to put together the best group of guys that we can to help us to get done what everybody wants to get done."

I just want to tip my hat to all the Vol coaches that beat the bushes, spending days away from their families, and they do it all to put a winner on the field for the University and the fans.

 

[chavisut]

Clawson and Scott are looking very impressive for their first year in the bigs. I have a feeling next year, the recent trend of good year/bad year recruiting wise will end.

 

[rexvol]

Im just impressed by their effort. kind of makes Chief's unwillingness to go in the road look sad.

 

[allvol123]

I just want to tip my hat to all the Vol coaches that beat the bushes, spending days away from their families, and they do it all to put a winner on the field for the University and the fans.

Actually they do it to make more money and move up in their chosen profession.

 

[head1]

Actually they do it to make more money and move up in their chosen profession.

Same thing is it not? If they dont put a winner on the field they wont be moving up. They arent going to get paid more because they recruit more. They recruit more because this is the bigs and its required from the start.

 

[allvol123]

Same thing is it not? If they dont put a winner on the field they wont be moving up. They arent going to get paid more because they recruit more. They recruit more because this is the bigs and its required from the start.

No it is not the same. They are not recruiting hard to make you happy. They are recruiting hard to make a name for themself. The result will be wins of course, but that is just the byproduct. THE reason they do it is money and job growth, not to make you happy.

 

[Smokey1]

Well said Rex. We often don't hear about these kinds of things. There's a lot that goes on behind the scenes that we don't know about.

 

[sjt18]

allvol123, I doubt very seriously those guys are motivated by money all the time. Yes most of them are career motivated to one extent or another but like most any other profession the truly great ones do it for the love of it.

Look at Clawson's bio when you get a chance. He continued to do it when success seemed a long ways off... when he was getting paid basically nothing he chose to stay in coaching because he loved it.

Don't be so cynical. Maybe you are mercenary in everything YOU do but most of us aren't.

 

[sjt18]

Believe it or not allvol123, some people strive for excellence without any regard for monetary reward.

 

[Smokey1]

No it is not the same. They are not recruiting hard to make you happy. They are recruiting hard to make a name for themself. The result will be wins of course, but that is just the byproduct. THE reason they do it is money and job growth, not to make you happy.

First off, you're not in their head so you don't really know their motivations. As hard as it is to believe, there are actually people out there who are competitive and want to WIN! Did it ever occur to you that the reason they recruit hard is because they want to put a winner on the field every Saturday and compete for championships, and with that success, the money and promotion is a byproduct?

 

[allvol123]

allvol123, I doubt very seriously those guys are motivated by money all the time. Yes most of them are career motivated to one extent or another but like most any other profession the truly great ones do it for the love of it.

Look at Clawson's bio when you get a chance. He continued to do it when success seemed a long ways off... when he was getting paid basically nothing he chose to stay in coaching because he loved it.

Don't be so cynical. Maybe you are mercenary in everything YOU do but most of us aren't.

Nice perspective. Why is it labeled cynical to say someone likes to get raises and promotions. Silly cynical people.


His bio includes taking a higher paying and more prominent job in the past 6 months. If it was for the university and fans, he'd still be at Richmond.

 

[allvol123]

First off, you're not in their head so you don't really know their motivations. As hard as it is to believe, there are actually people out there who are competitive and want to WIN! Did it ever occur to you that the reason they recruit hard is because they want to put a winner on the field every Saturday and compete for championships, and with that success, the money and promotion is a byproduct?

Of course they want to win, that means promotions and money. If it were purely about winning, he could have stayed at Richmond.

 

[sjt18]

Actually they do it to make more money and move up in their chosen profession.

You said this. My point is that very few people actually think about these things moment by moment and achieve any great level of success. It is the ones who just strive for excellence for the joy of it that often make more money and move up.

Not everyone is motivated simply by money and promotion. Some do it because they love it.

Clawson for instance is a very intelligent man. He could have been as successful, faster in some other line of work. He loves football.

 

[sjt18]

Of course they want to win, that means promotions and money.

If you think it always relates back to selfish greed and self promotion... that says alot more about you than them.

 

[allvol123]

You said this. My point is that very few people actually think about these things moment by moment and achieve any great level of success. It is the ones who just strive for excellence for the joy of it that often make more money and move up.

Not everyone is motivated simply by money and promotion. Some do it because they love it.

Clawson for instance is a very intelligent man. He could have been as successful, faster in some other line of work. He loves football.

Where did I say they think about it moment by moment?

As I said, if he did it purely out of love, he could coach a HS team.

 

[Smokey1]

You said this. My point is that very few people actually think about these things moment by moment and achieve any great level of success. It is the ones who just strive for excellence for the joy of it that often make more money and move up.

Not everyone is motivated simply by money and promotion. Some do it because they love it.

Clawson for instance is a very intelligent man. He could have been as successful, faster in some other line of work. He loves football.

very well said. k:

 

[allvol123]

If you think it always relates back to selfish greed and self promotion... that says alot more about you than them.

Ah yes, you have no point so try and take some little shot at me. Sorry you take it so personal that Clawson and Co. are not going home at night and thinking to themselves..."man I gotta get these recruits so I can make sjt18 & Smoeky1 happy!".

 

[sjt18]

Where did I say they think about it moment by moment?

As I said, if he did it purely out of love, he could coach a HS team.

He could want success at higher levels without alot of regard for the money. Some people want to be challenged... again, in it for the joy and fulfillment of it rather than the very base motives you suggest.

 

[allvol123]

He could want success at higher levels without alot of regard for the money. Some people want to be challenged... again, in it for the joy and fulfillment of it rather than the very base motives you suggest.

Of course he enjoys it and has passion for it. What do those things have to do with making you and the university happy? Nothing, that is what. HE finds it fulfilling and seeks more fulfillment from promotions and raises.

 

[sjt18]

Ah yes, you have no point so try and take some little shot at me. Sorry you take it so personal that Clawson and Co. are not going home at night and thinking to themselves..."man I gotta get these recruits so I can make sjt18 & Smoeky1 happy!".

I have a point. You are wrong and your blindness to how wrong you are potentially says a great deal about you. If the only (or even primary) things you are motivated by are money and promotion then you are a sad, selfish individual.

 

[allvol123]

I have a point. You are wrong and your blindness to how wrong you are potentially says a great deal about you. If the only (or even primary) things you are motivated by are money and promotion then you are a sad, selfish individual.

Good job at pointing out you have no point. Isn't it about time for you to feed your unicorns today.

 

[sjt18]

Of course he enjoys it and has passion for it. What do those things have to do with making you and the university happy? Nothing, that is what.

How do YOU know that? Entertainment performers talk all the time about how the only time they are happy is on stage pleasing their fans. I am quite sure that these coaches get pleasure out of putting a team on the field that excites and pleases the fans.

HE finds it fulfilling and seeks more fulfillment from promotions and raises.

I hope you are young... the type of narrow-minded, base ideal you are spewing is pathetic in anyone with experience in the world.

If you are in a career and have not reached a point where being excellent is the main motive then you have a lot of growing up to do no matter how old you are.

 

[rexvol]

if you think it always relates back to selfish greed and self promotion... That says alot more about you than them.

qft

 

[sjt18]

Holy cow!!! I just looked and you are 35! Are you kidding me? You are 35 and believe that people are only motivated by money and promotion?

Wow.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised in a society plagued by the consequences of self-centeredness and greed... but still.... Wow.

 

[rexvol]

Allvol, you realize that this thread was started as a way to acknowledge the scarifices coaches make everyday. You may want to argue what motivates them, but I just want to let people know what they go through day to day to help keep our program successful. If the university wins, then we all win.