The WRs / Drops

#51
#51
Any D1 receiver should make the catch from a well thrown ball.
Better D1 receivers make catches from poorly thrown balls they can get their hands on.

Milton was definitely off, but there were some balls that should have been caught by a “SEC wide receiver” that were not……….
Athletes make plays as if it’s normal. Good throw, bad throw
 
#52
#52
Team win with a lot of team mistakes. It was a combination of all. Joe has to settle down and just play the game. OL has to do better. QB gets a D missed location several times
WR D drops
OL C multiple missed assignments
TE A Played well when called on
RB A strength of the team thus far
DL A held the point of attack, many pressures and sacks
LB B Beasley played well. Not sold on Herring yet but he's young
DB C Hadden should turn his head more. Group made some mistakes and missed some tackles
ST B Outside of another shank by the rugby punter they played better. Fg kicker has the leg to be solid
 
#53
#53
We don’t have a problem with drops. It always amazes me how many of our fans don’t seem to understand what they are watching. When a WR is running wide open 20+ miles an hour and the ball is thrown 5 feet behind them, it takes three or four steps for them to stop their momentum. Then they are essentially throwing their hands back behind their body. That’s not the technique they are taught. They work on the fundamentals of route running and hand/body technique ever single day. But they don’t do drills where they are running a slant at full speed, and have the ball thrown 10 yards behind them. If Milton is going to remain the quarterback, maybe that’s the type drill our coaches should implement.

All you see on the TV screen is the ball arriving. You can tell it’s slightly off target but it’s still hits the receivers hands and some of our fans, then blame for execution on the play on the receiver, and expect him to catch it. That’s not how it works.

There was one blatant drop yesterday. It was thorton on the sidelines. In the first game, Kieten had a blatant drop. Out of 30 passes a game you’re going to get two or three drops. But the vast majority of the drops you are referring to were due to inaccurate passes.

While I believe we are dealing with a normal level of drops they are partially due to the inconsistency of Milton. He throws the ball differently ever pass. Sometimes it has loft on it. Sometimes it’s 130mph fastball.
 
#54
#54
We don’t have a problem with drops. It always amazes me how many of our fans don’t seem to understand what they are watching. When a WR is running wide open 20+ miles an hour and the ball is thrown 5 feet behind them, it takes three or four steps for them to stop their momentum. Then they are essentially throwing their hands back behind their body. That’s not the technique they are taught. They work on the fundamentals of route running and hand/body technique ever single day. But they don’t do drills where they are running a slant at full speed, and have the ball thrown 10 yards behind them. If Milton is going to remain the quarterback, maybe that’s the type drill our coaches should implement.

All you see on the TV screen is the ball arriving. You can tell it’s slightly off target but it’s still hits the receivers hands and some of our fans, then blame for execution on the play on the receiver, and expect him to catch it. That’s not how it works.

There was one blatant drop yesterday. It was thorton on the sidelines. In the first game, Kieten had a blatant drop. Out of 30 passes a game you’re going to get two or three drops. But the vast majority of the drops you are referring to were due to inaccurate passes.

While I believe we are dealing with a normal level of drops they are partially due to the inconsistency of Milton. He throws the ball differently ever pass. Sometimes it has loft on it. Sometimes it’s 130mph fastball.
The blame can be 50/50 right now. The WRs have had at least 5-6 bad drops the last two games. Milton had really two bad throws last night...Mccastles across the middle and the Squirrel; the rest could have been caught.
 
#56
#56
Yeah, it feels like it might help some people if they went back and watched Hooker's passes last year, just to see what accurate throws did to help receivers make catches and ring up yards after the catch. Hooker didn't put a lot of balls behind guys running routes. Had a habit of hitting or leading, but didn't put many behind guys. Making it difficult on the receiver time after time is going to lead to higher rates of failure and put stress on the receivers to constantly be making difficult catches. It's easy to say "they have to catch it," but it's easier still to make the damn passes more catchable and not ask your receivers to be 100% perfect on every catch.

QB is supposed to put it in a catchable window and the WR job is to catch it. Our WRs are not getting it done.
 
#58
#58
We don’t have a problem with drops. It always amazes me how many of our fans don’t seem to understand what they are watching. When a WR is running wide open 20+ miles an hour and the ball is thrown 5 feet behind them, it takes three or four steps for them to stop their momentum. Then they are essentially throwing their hands back behind their body. That’s not the technique they are taught. They work on the fundamentals of route running and hand/body technique ever single day. But they don’t do drills where they are running a slant at full speed, and have the ball thrown 10 yards behind them. If Milton is going to remain the quarterback, maybe that’s the type drill our coaches should implement.

All you see on the TV screen is the ball arriving. You can tell it’s slightly off target but it’s still hits the receivers hands and some of our fans, then blame for execution on the play on the receiver, and expect him to catch it. That’s not how it works.

There was one blatant drop yesterday. It was thorton on the sidelines. In the first game, Kieten had a blatant drop. Out of 30 passes a game you’re going to get two or three drops. But the vast majority of the drops you are referring to were due to inaccurate passes.

While I believe we are dealing with a normal level of drops they are partially due to the inconsistency of Milton. He throws the ball differently ever pass. Sometimes it has loft on it. Sometimes it’s 130mph fastball.

Let's count the number of exaggerations in this post
 
#59
#59
This is just my observation, and I noticed it with about 50% of JM passes.
To me the biggest problem with most of JM passes yesterday is they did not hit the receiver in stride. Anytime a receiver has to break their route or natural stride they struggle to make the catch. And especially with the speed that JM throws it is much more difficult to adjust your stride when the ball is being thrown that hard.

A lot of his completions were sideline throws where the receiver is basically standing flat footed waiting on the ball. Maybe that is why so many of the play calls were sideline throws, the coaches could tell JM was off.

Also, I think this could get in the receivers head causing drops, knowing they are going to get drilled and they will have limited time to adjust, and especially the younger receivers in front of 102,000 fans.
 
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#62
#62
honestly, if our starting rotation can't get it together, lets see what Nimrod and Webb can do. These drops are unacceptable from wideouts of this caliber.
 
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#63
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honestly, if our starting rotation can't get it together, lets see what Nimrod and Webb can do. These drops are unacceptable from wideouts of this caliber.

You think you’d get consistently accurate throws from a 7th year qb.
 
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#64
#64
I think that the problem is those white gloves that all of the receivers are wearing. Are those something new? They look weird.
 
#66
#66
We don’t have a problem with drops. It always amazes me how many of our fans don’t seem to understand what they are watching. When a WR is running wide open 20+ miles an hour and the ball is thrown 5 feet behind them, it takes three or four steps for them to stop their momentum. Then they are essentially throwing their hands back behind their body. That’s not the technique they are taught. They work on the fundamentals of route running and hand/body technique ever single day. But they don’t do drills where they are running a slant at full speed, and have the ball thrown 10 yards behind them. If Milton is going to remain the quarterback, maybe that’s the type drill our coaches should implement.

All you see on the TV screen is the ball arriving. You can tell it’s slightly off target but it’s still hits the receivers hands and some of our fans, then blame for execution on the play on the receiver, and expect him to catch it. That’s not how it works.

There was one blatant drop yesterday. It was thorton on the sidelines. In the first game, Kieten had a blatant drop. Out of 30 passes a game you’re going to get two or three drops. But the vast majority of the drops you are referring to were due to inaccurate passes.

While I believe we are dealing with a normal level of drops they are partially due to the inconsistency of Milton. He throws the ball differently ever pass. Sometimes it has loft on it. Sometimes it’s 130mph fastball.

So you are saying the QB has to be perfect? If that is the case, then we no need to try to recruit the best of the best receivers.
 
#67
#67
Seriously folks, there is a defensive team also on the field. Sometimes the line breaks down, passes have to be released sooner than expected. Sometimes the defensive backs have coverage such that pass routes need to be adjusted and the QB has to put the ball in a different position to avoid an interception.

It takes both the QB and the receiver working together to make a play and if a receiver is able to touch the ball with "both hands" if they are an elite SEC receiver, they should catch it.

There were some bad throws but there were a lot drops.

I get it some of you just want the backup QB - you do every year.
 
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#69
#69
So you are saying the QB has to be perfect? If that is the case, then we no need to try to recruit the best of the best receivers.
Dude, when did I say the quarterback has to be absolutely perfect? When a receiver is running in the open field wide open, all the quarterback has to do is put the ball out in front of them so they can track it down and adjust their angle to get there. Milton, amongst other things, kept throwing the ball behind them. That’s missing by 15+ yards. Stating that your quarterback needs to more often than not, not miss a pass by over 15 yards to a wide-open receiver wall, not facing any rushing pressure at all is pretty much the complete opposite of saying the quarterback has to be perfect.

And separately, why did this never come up with hooker? Find me a single thread on hooker where people are questioning his accuracy. When you see a constant theme amongst the fans… There’s probably legitimacy to that theme.

Milton is a very poor passer of the football. It’s that simple. Always has been. Always will be.
 
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#70
#70
As a group the WR were really bad. They dropped several very easy, in their hands passes. Made no tough catches. Had a fumble and a ton of penalties. It was a horrible night for what was supposed to be a team strength.
They need to play the young guys with Bru and Squirrel then.

Until Thornton and Keyton can get their head out or their butts
 
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#71
#71
I don't anticipate seeing any of the WR catches from the Ausdtin Peay game on any of the 2024 hype videos next year, so there's that


God Bless Josh Heupel
 
#72
#72
Yea Thornton dropped one on the comeback. Not sure it was for 25 though. There was a couple others that should have been caught. There were way more others that should’ve been a routine pitch and catch that we’re way off the mark.
Went back and watched. Milton threw it from the 40 to the 15 where it hit Thornton in the hands on the sideline, but the line of scrimmage was the 35 so we can split the difference and call it even.
 
#74
#74
And separately, why did this never come up with hooker? Find me a single thread on hooker where people are questioning his accuracy. When you see a constant theme amongst the fans… There’s probably legitimacy to that theme.

Actually, it didn't because the wide receiving core last year were elite as well. Their catchable window was much larger. That is not meant to be that Hooker wasn't a great QB, he was, but the receivers were better.
 
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#75
#75
We don’t have a problem with drops. It always amazes me how many of our fans don’t seem to understand what they are watching. When a WR is running wide open 20+ miles an hour and the ball is thrown 5 feet behind them, it takes three or four steps for them to stop their momentum. Then they are essentially throwing their hands back behind their body. That’s not the technique they are taught. They work on the fundamentals of route running and hand/body technique ever single day. But they don’t do drills where they are running a slant at full speed, and have the ball thrown 10 yards behind them. If Milton is going to remain the quarterback, maybe that’s the type drill our coaches should implement.

All you see on the TV screen is the ball arriving. You can tell it’s slightly off target but it’s still hits the receivers hands and some of our fans, then blame for execution on the play on the receiver, and expect him to catch it. That’s not how it works.

There was one blatant drop yesterday. It was thorton on the sidelines. In the first game, Kieten had a blatant drop. Out of 30 passes a game you’re going to get two or three drops. But the vast majority of the drops you are referring to were due to inaccurate passes.

While I believe we are dealing with a normal level of drops they are partially due to the inconsistency of Milton. He throws the ball differently ever pass. Sometimes it has loft on it. Sometimes it’s 130mph fastball.
Hate to break it to you. Fred White disagrees with your take. Also Keyton dropped a huge gainer on a slant pattern right where it should be. SQUIRREL dropped a pass that should have been caught and no I am not talking about the high throw over the middle. Hell even Bru dropped a ball he should have Caught. Stop blaming 1 guy. Some ball placement could have been better sure. But there is plenty of things everyone did wrong. It's not all on Milton
 

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