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#51
#51
Other_Guy said:
It's just bad luck. I get not inviting an injured guy but he was leading in the Heisman after the 10th game wasn't he? He wasn't bad against SC and the only other game to pad stats was Vandy.

Also RBs aren't going to get as much love and it's unfortunate he has done what he has in the same season as a guy putting up video game numbers. Getting left off the Doak Walker award was tbe actual crime.
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I think with Hendon, one thing that kinda hurt him was at the time, there was this idea that it was mostly Heupel’s system that made things tick. The pace, the splits, the playcalling, etc. I think a lot of people, including many Vol fans, figured that any decent QB could come in and put up big numbers. I think we have learned in the 2 years since that that definitely isn’t the case, Hooker really elevated everything.

As for Sampson, I think his biggest issue in not getting more national recognition is that he hasn’t been very flashy. He has been remarkably consistent in his production, but he isn’t ripping off explosive runs all the time and hasn’t had any otherworldly yardage totals. Now I’ll gladly take his 25 for 125 and 2 touchdowns weekly, but that’s not gonna catch the eyes of voters like an 16 for 210 kinda day or a game with 2 70 yarders.
 
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#54
Quitcherbichin’. Quitcher handwringing. GBO! We who live the GBO life are happy, good natured, humble, generous, and support our Vols with a deep surety akin to faith. We travel well, are quick to lend a hand, and spend money freely in the communities we visit. We’re welcome guests, good hosts, and GBO. So, forget your troubles, c’mon, GBO!
 
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Mccage said:
So you’re saying the Mountain West is equal to the SEC? Speaking of narratives You seem to always find ways to find fault with anything Tennessee. So who’s your team?
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Amen. Him and a handful of others cling to that narrative like it’s necessary for their survival.
 
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#56
Boston Vol said:
The Nebraska team that Miami beat in the Orange Bowl was considered by many the greatest team of all time, until Miami beat them. They were a lock to jump to #1 when they won the game.
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It didn't hurt that it was basically a home game for Miami. That was a great game. Mike Rozier was injured in the 2nd half, but his backup, Jeff Smith, went on to rush for over 100 yards during Nebraska's comeback.

Incidentally, Texas beat Auburn easily that year (in Jordan-Hare), and would have won the National Championship if they had beaten Georgia in the Cotton Bowl. Georgia won 10-9 after Craig Curry fumbled a punt at the Texas 30 late in the game, setting up their go ahead touchdown.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
I think with Hendon, one thing that kinda hurt him was at the time, there was this idea that it was mostly Heupel’s system that made things tick. The pace, the splits, the playcalling, etc. I think a lot of people, including many Vol fans, figured that any decent QB could come in and put up big numbers. I think we have learned in the 2 years since that that definitely isn’t the case, Hooker really elevated everything.

As for Sampson, I think his biggest issue in not getting more national recognition is that he hasn’t been very flashy. He has been remarkably consistent in his production, but he isn’t ripping off explosive runs all the time and hasn’t had any otherworldly yardage totals. Now I’ll gladly take his 25 for 125 and 2 touchdowns weekly, but that’s not gonna catch the eyes of voters like an 16 for 210 kinda day or a game with 2 70 yarders.
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Which is the most ridiculous thing ever. It’s like saying Danny Weurfel only won it back in the 90s because of Steven Spurrier Fun n Gun. Well yeah no **** Sherlock. Or when Lamar Jackson won it or any of the Oklahoma QBs. Good coaches combined with good players who understand the offensive philosophy and scheme they are in are going to win a lot of games and put up big numbers. The whole “system” argument is tired.
 
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UT97Vol said:
Which is the most ridiculous thing ever. It’s like saying Danny Weurfel only won it back in the 90s because of Steven Spurrier Fun n Gun. Well yeah no **** Sherlock. Or when Lamar Jackson won it or any of the Oklahoma QBs. Good coaches combined with good players who understand the offensive philosophy and scheme they are in are going to win a lot of games and put up big numbers. The whole “system” argument is tired.
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I don’t think we will see the system argument much anymore because Milton and Nico can’t hold a candle to what Hooker was able to achieve. Now the system argument will become “has Heupel’s system been figured out?” if Nico doesn’t make enormous strides. If Nico lives up to the billing, then at that point there will be enough evidence to say that not just anyone can succeed in the offense, but the offense hasn’t been figured out yet.
 
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Actually I agree with the title. Even an article on 247 sports this morning said that UT had the toughest first 2 games in the playoffs (OSU and Oregon). Sorry but this kind of crap just happens to often to be some sort of Coincidence!:mad:
 
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#61
Who really gives a Shat about ESPN and the National Sports Media. They’re a bunch of Clowns and the general population of America is beginning to take notice. Throw the NCAA and the Playoff Committee in there as well. What a Joke they are. Only reason I subscribe to ESPN is to watch our beloved Vols play. Otherwise, I wouldn’t give them a Red Penny!!!
 
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overseasorange2 said:
Actually I agree with the title. Even an article on 247 sports this morning said that UT had the toughest first 2 games in the playoffs (OSU and Oregon). Sorry but this kind of crap just happens to often to be some sort of Coincidence!:mad:
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Oregon got screwed as well. They have the toughest potential matchup out of all of the top 4 seeds.

I like the autobids for Conference Champions but I don't like the Auto-Byes. It should be based on rankings. I imagine that is coming as everyone is talking about it.

For example, Penn State has an easier rode than Oregon. The message was basically that Oregon should have lost the B1G title and they would have gotten an easier path.
 
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Native Orange said:
Who really gives a Shat about ESPN and the National Sports Media. They’re a bunch of Clowns and the general population of America is beginning to take notice. Throw the NCAA and the Playoff Committee in there as well. What a Joke they are. Only reason I subscribe to ESPN is to watch our beloved Vols play. Otherwise, I wouldn’t give them a Red Penny!!!
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The Youtube/X media is starting to take over. On3, Josh Pate, Aaron Torres, etc. They brought in Pat McAfee as part of that response.
 
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overseasorange2 said:
Actually I agree with the title. Even an article on 247 sports this morning said that UT had the toughest first 2 games in the playoffs (OSU and Oregon). Sorry but this kind of crap just happens to often to be some sort of Coincidence!:mad:
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In theory, the 9-seed will always have a tough road. You have to go on the road for the first round and face a very good opponent. Then, if you win, your reward is playing the 1-seed in the quarterfinals.
 
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#65
Sampson isn't better than Jeanty and it's not as impressive as Hunter playing both sides at a high level. It is what it is. Hope he runs for 250 at the shoe!
 
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#66
volbound1700 said:
I agree but I think it is exaggerated and not true with everyone. On3 and Josh Pate, for example, speak highly of Tennessee. Saban (yes I said it) and McAfee general talk well of Tennessee. I think Herbstreit has at times as well. In the 1980s and 1990s, there was a general disrespect of the SEC in general and I think that was the origin of the SEC chant.
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There is a definite SEC resentment in the national media, and it was clearly seen in d-bags like Dennis Dodd at CBS Sports.com during the CFP ranking debate, referring to the SEC as "mediocre" due to so many 3-loss teams and scoffing at suggestions that Indiana and Penn State are paper tigers due to their schedules.

There was a definite narrative developed, almost a gaslighting job in ripping anyone who questioned Indiana's legitimacy or the idea of the Big 10 and SEC being "equals" that I believe was very much present with the corrupt "committee". Proof of this is that clown Manuel suddenly stressing "strength of record" when people were questioning Indiana, Penn State, Boise St., and Notre Dame.
 
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volbound1700 said:
Oregon got screwed as well. They have the toughest potential matchup out of all of the top 4 seeds.

I like the autobids for Conference Champions but I don't like the Auto-Byes. It should be based on rankings. I imagine that is coming as everyone is talking about it.

For example, Penn State has an easier rode than Oregon. The message was basically that Oregon should have lost the B1G title and they would have gotten an easier path.
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Oregon, OSU, and UT have the hardest paths, which is only made more absurd when seeing that Penn State has been gifted a free ride to the final four, and Texas isn't far behind.

I've said it before, but simply ranking the teams and giving auto bids (but no byes!) to the conference champs, and then giving the top four seeds the byes, would have produced a fairer and much more balanced event that would build to better games as it progressed instead of having Boise and ASU as heavy underdogs the second weekend.

1. Oregon
2. Georgia
3. Texas
4. Penn State
5. Notre Dame
6. Ohio State
7. Tennessee
8. Indiana
9. Boise State
10. SMU
11. Alabama
12. Arizona State
16. Clemson

Here, Clemson gets the #12 seed, eliminating Alabama, and they play it out from here with the top 4 getting byes. UT would have SMU at Neyland and then a UGa rematch. Oregon's path is more in line with what a #1 seed should have.
 
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#71
BJWeeks said:
If Sampson had the same stats and was playing for Alabama then he would win the Heisman
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It is very odd, even statistically speaking, that schools with a historical resume no better than ours have 7 to eight Heisman winners and we have 0! How Many? ZERO

Hell even South Carolina has 1!!!
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#72
#72
sami said:
Oregon, OSU, and UT have the hardest paths, which is only made more absurd when seeing that Penn State has been gifted a free ride to the final four, and Texas isn't far behind.

I've said it before, but simply ranking the teams and giving auto bids (but no byes!) to the conference champs, and then giving the top four seeds the byes, would have produced a fairer and much more balanced event that would build to better games as it progressed instead of having Boise and ASU as heavy underdogs the second weekend.

1. Oregon
2. Georgia
3. Texas
4. Penn State
5. Notre Dame
6. Ohio State
7. Tennessee
8. Indiana
9. Boise State
10. SMU
11. Alabama
12. Arizona State
16. Clemson

Here, Clemson gets the #12 seed, eliminating Alabama, and they play it out from here with the top 4 getting byes. UT would have SMU at Neyland and then a UGa rematch. Oregon's path is more in line with what a #1 seed should have.
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Agree. I like the teams that made it except for SMU. IMO, BYU should have been over them. Big12, to me, seemed stronger than ACC and BYU beat SMU.

Seeding should have looked more like what you posted above. I am not as "high" on Boise State. I would probably have gone with the following.

1. Oregon
2. Georgia
3. Notre Dame
4. Texas
5. Ohio State (Ohio State gets nod over Penn State because they beat them. Penn State didn't play Michigan)
6. Penn State
7. Tennessee
8. Arizona State
9. Indiana
10. Boise State
11. BYU
12. Clemson


Under that scenario, Tennessee plays Boise State in Neyland. Jentry vs. Sampson would be cool to see.

Heisman needs to wait until late January to give out its award. That has always been the issue with the Heisman and all these awards, they are too early. With Playoffs, it makes more sense now to wait.
 
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volbound1700 said:
Agree. I like the teams that made it except for SMU. IMO, BYU should have been over them. Big12, to me, seemed stronger than ACC and BYU beat SMU.

Seeding should have looked more like what you posted above. I am not as "high" on Boise State. I would probably have gone with the following.

1. Oregon
2. Georgia
3. Notre Dame
4. Texas
5. Ohio State (Ohio State gets nod over Penn State because they beat them. Penn State didn't play Michigan)
6. Penn State
7. Tennessee
8. Arizona State
9. Indiana
10. Boise State
11. BYU
12. Clemson


Under that scenario, Tennessee plays Boise State in Neyland. Jentry vs. Sampson would be cool to see.

Heisman needs to wait until late January to give out its award. That has always been the issue with the Heisman and all these awards, they are too early. With Playoffs, it makes more sense now to wait.
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The ones in my post weren't my rankings, they were the actual CFP rankings by the "committee". I agree with you on Boise and BYU, and definitely think it's a joke to have Penn State ranked #4, but that's the way they had it before the idiotic auto byes to conference champs that essentially wrecked the event.
 
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#74
overseasorange2 said:
It is very odd, even statistically speaking, that schools with a historical resume no better than ours have 7 to eight Heisman winners and we have 0! How Many? ZERO

Hell even South Carolina has 1!!!
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The only schools with 7-8 Heisman winners are USC, Ohio State, Notre Dame, and Oklahoma. All four of those programs are better historically than Tennessee.
 
#75
#75
They do hate Tennessee. The Charles Woodson heistman proves it. I don't care about the glorified popularity contest. Tennessee isn't winning that. Peyton proved it.
 
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