This class desperately needs some OL...

#51
#51
BigVol80 said:
This recruiting class has ZERO to do with next years O line performance. If we are starting true freshman again we will be in trouble up front again.
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Agree totally! This years OL has zero to do with this class. I think it's a solid class, but having to depend on true freshmen is concerning..
 
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#52
onevol74 said:
The same people on here complaining about the OP will be the same people on here next year complaining when the line under achieves in a game.
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Anyone who thinks a patchwork line with multiple players playing out of their natural positions because of horrid recruiting by previous regimes had any real chance to look good this year isn't living in the real world. This years mess will be the exception, not the rule. The dominance the O-line had in the bowl game would have been impressive against a JUCO team. They won the battle. It shows what the staff (Mahoney) can do with a reasonably healthy line.
 
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BigVol80 said:
I miss VOL fans with pride.

We are about to sign our second top 5 class in two years and you think we are in desperation mode?

We have FOUR 4 star linemen committed. Enjoy our success!!
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I think this is over your head. Never said that it is bad class. I think it is nearly comparable to Peyton's class. I think quality depth is needed on the offensive front due to the struggles we had and possible injuries in the future. We did replace both lines in 2014 but did not see big improvements like the D line had. Who knows this offensive front might be the best in the nation next year but depth helps everyone play better.
 
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Pride85 said:
Thomas is not a tackle, he is a center/guard. It is one of the sad points that he was actually better than what we had than the tackles we had on the roster. We will be in much better shape. Not nearly as many people playing out of position.
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You may be right. I'm interested to see how he develops. At 6'6 he definitely has tackle size. I see his versatility as a big strength.
 
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Pride85 said:
Anyone who thinks a patchwork line with multiple players playing out of their natural positions because of horrid recruiting by previous regimes had any real chance to look good this year isn't living in the real world. This years mess will be the exception, not the rule. The dominance the O-line had in the bowl game would have been impressive against a JUCO team. They won the battle. It shows what the staff (Maloney) can do with a reasonably healthy line.
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My Maloney has a first name, it's M-A-H-O-N-E-Y!! Just bustin your chops. :focus:
 
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1725gatorhater said:
I think this is over your head. Never said that it is bad class. I think it is nearly comparable to Peyton's class. I think quality depth is needed on the offensive front due to the struggles we had and possible injuries in the future. We did replace both lines in 2014 but did not see big improvements like the D line had. Who knows this offensive front might be the best in the nation next year but depth helps everyone play better.
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Haha. Go back and whine in a corner then.
 
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BigVol80 said:
This recruiting class has ZERO to do with next years O line performance. If we are starting true freshman again we will be in trouble up front again.
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Everyone. Please read this. This ain't free agency were pulling players from for 15'.
 
#58
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1725gatorhater said:
I think this is over your head. Never said that it is bad class. I think it is nearly comparable to Peyton's class. I think quality depth is needed on the offensive front due to the struggles we had and possible injuries in the future. We did replace both lines in 2014 but did not see big improvements like the D line had. Who knows this offensive front might be the best in the nation next year but depth helps everyone play better.
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You used the word "desperation" concerning the #3 class in the nation for a team the has a sub .500 record over the past two years. Might as well just deal with it.
 
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Pacer92 said:
I think with every class no matter how good or bad there is a weak link. I believe that with OL struggles of this year combined with the question of whether Mahoney can coach them up has some people worried.

I like this group coming in but losing Boulware and not adding another OL would be disappointing IMO.
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Wait? When did we lose Boulware?
 
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major_orange said:
we may not lose him but he is going to visit osu.
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offensive lineman next year:

Kerybson (starter at left guard)
robertson (starter at right guard)
wiesman (2nd string right guard)
blair (starter at left tackle)
mosely (2nd string right tackle)
crowder (starter at center)
thomas (starter at right tackle)
raulerson (2nd string at center)
jones (2nd string at left tackle/right tackle)
jackson (2nd string at left guard)
stewart (will redshirt or 2nd string right tackle)
hall (will redshirt imo)
boulware (will redshirt or will sign elsewhere)

we need richmond or allen imo....
Raulerson is a fifth year starter imo and has no great value right now. If we get richmond i could see thomas moving to backup center and tackle. I feel richmond is an upgrade
 
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utvols74 said:
I don't like to be a pessimistic person, but I've not seen much evidence of this. Perhaps I've got a short memory but from game 1 through game 12, the line didn't get much better. They seemed to get better in the bowl game but everyone said Iowa's defense struggled against mobile QBs - so I don't know.
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actually they did get better game as the season went on.. it was just masked by the fact our schedule got harder and harder.
If you saw the UTC game and think those guys didn't get better I dunno what to tell you. They never got Good, but they showed improvement. I actually think the Iowa game was less about improvement than the fact they had a month to prepare for the slowest dine they saw all year.
 
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mscox75 said:
offensive lineman next year:

Kerybson (starter at left guard)
robertson (starter at right guard)
wiesman (2nd string right guard)
blair (starter at left tackle)
mosely (2nd string right tackle)
crowder (starter at center)
thomas (starter at right tackle)
raulerson (2nd string at center)
jones (2nd string at left tackle/right tackle)
jackson (2nd string at left guard)
stewart (will redshirt or 2nd string right tackle)
hall (will redshirt imo)
boulware (will redshirt or will sign elsewhere)

we need richmond or allen imo....
Raulerson is a fifth year starter imo and has no great value right now. If we get richmond i could see thomas moving to backup center and tackle. I feel richmond is an upgrade
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Jackson is your starting LG. Kerbs will play RT over Thomas. Jones will most likely be the backup RT. Thomas is your future C. Kendrick will also be second string at LT/RT. JMO. Could be totally wrong.
 
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Butch is a winner. He's going to get the players he needs to win. Rest assured, if a kid gets a UT offer, it means he can play.
 
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keckjm said:
Jackson is your starting LG. Kerbs will play RT over Thomas. Jones will most likely be the backup RT. Thomas is your future C. Kendrick will also be second string at LT/RT. JMO. Could be totally wrong.
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Things could change, but IMO you are spot on. VQ's comments support it as well. Any flip flopping that could occur relates to Blair not getting it done. If that happens Kendrick rolls in and Kerbs could end up back at LT if the don't like Kendrick there.
 
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#69
I'm thinking ...

RT
Kerbyson
Jones

RG
Robertson
Weisman

C
Crowder
Thomas / Weisman

LG
Jackson
Sanders

LT
Blair
Kendrick

*If Blair doesn't pan out I could see Kerbyson moving back to LT and Kendrick to RT
 
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zero-sum said:
I'm thinking ...

RT
Kerbyson
Jones

RG
Robertson
Weisman

C
Crowder
Thomas / Weisman

LG
Jackson
Sanders

LT
Blair
Kendrick

*If Blair doesn't pan out I could see Kerbyson moving back to LT and Kendrick to RT
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Put Zack Stewart as a backup in one of those spots. At this point i think he'll be used as an OL.
 
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jkleno said:
I disagree. He is a high IQ kid that went to a HS on a similar level to Derek Barnett @ Brentwood. Sometimes IQ gets left out of the equation. Although Barnett is physically gifted, he is also very, very intelligent. Richmond would have been a great pickup.
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Obviously not that high IQ, he chose Ole Miss over UT
 
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IMO this staff REALLY expects Blair to pan out. If they thought he would be a dud, they would have burned his red shirt and sent him in on mop up duty this year to try and protect other linemen. They see something in him that makes them want to save his eligibility for when he can be a strong contributor.
 
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The Oline concerns are a bit overplayed. Do not get me wrong it is an important position and was the biggest problem last year. We will have more bodies and depth moving forward without considering what we are bringing in with this current class. Jack Jones pretty much alleviated a lot of my concerns at the All American practices he was at, he looks like he could eventually play either tackle position but will probably start at RT.

I would say Oline is probably the most underwhelming position as far as ratings in this class just because of how well Jones has recruited other positions. If we add a kid like Allen or St Louis to what we already have, it's still a damn good Oline class IMO. Whatever happens next year likely will not be solved by freshmen Olinemen though. I expect better Oline play but nothing spectacular next year.
 
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If Kerbyson is playing either tackle position at any point next year then something has gone very wrong. It is a great class, but it still needs a Left tackle...we got a couple on deck. Butch has done nothing to make me believe one of them won't be on our roster next fall. BTW it would be great if none of the 15 recruits really matter to next years line as some of you have stated, but we aren't there yet. Half of next years freshman o-line class could have a spot in the 2 deep.
 
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