This coaching staff is SEC's best!!

[SmokeyFTW]

Play calling was and is bad.

Um ok...but no

 

[oregonvol]

It's Not so much the play calling was bad, as it is the execution of the play ran was bad. Someone usually missed an assignment when a play doesn't work.

If you call a play that your players can't execute, it is, by definition, a bad play call. If players could always be relied on to execute every play correctly and effectively, then just about anyone could call plays and be successful.

 

[SmokeyFTW]

If you call a play that your players can't execute, it is, by definition, a bad play call. If players could always be relied on to execute every play correctly and effectively, then just about anyone could call plays and be successful.

What? No one in their right mind would draw up a play that can't be executed.
Your post is perplexing. I'm not sure what you're trying to get at.

 

[bamawriter]

Play calling was and is bad.

Um ok...but no

It's got to be a bit of both at this point. The execution has been up-and-down, and the competition has been solid, but there's no way to say that the playcalling is above criticism.

Tennessee is #1 in the SEC in number of plays run, but only #11 in total yards, and #13 in yards per play (ahead of only Vandy's wretched offense).

If you truly believe that's solely on execution, then you should be knocking the coaches for going faster than the team is capable of effectively operating.

 

[advancedrescue27]

I don't even understand the arguments... All our issues appear to be pretty straight forwards:/
The team is doing great, our Defense is amazing, our offense shows huge potential. The sole reason the offense isn't great also is because our offensive line was playing high school football just months ago and we expect them perform against experienced college defenses, most recently a defense from a team ranked 4th in the nation.

Even with all that against them on offense they still had great plays. Every week the o-line gets better, you will see them start to create gaps(giving room for rushing yards) along with giving more time for the receivers to make it down field/ and more time for the QB to find them. That QB is also the QB that seemingly everyone on this forum hated last year.

Just think about this for a moment, when the O-Line starts creating gaps opening up our run game the defense will have to respect our run game. Once that occurs their coverage on our recievers won't be as heavy allowing for more plays there which is already doing great. Also the line being more experienced will keep the pressure off the QB, ontop of them not putting as much pressure on the QB because they won't be able to dump all those player trying to sack due to the bodies needing to be covered down field.

All this is easy stuff to recognize if you watch the game and even slightly know football. I just can't imagine people being upset or nervous right now:/

 

[SmokeyFTW]

It's got to be a bit of both at this point. The execution has been up-and-down, and the competition has been solid, but there's no way to say that the playcalling is above criticism.

Tennessee is #1 in the SEC in number of plays run, but only #11 in total yards, and #13 in yards per play (ahead of only Vandy's wretched offense).

If you truly believe that's solely on execution, then you should be knocking the coaches for going faster than the team is capable of effectively operating.

Execution is normally the problem when plays gain no yards. Timely defensive play calling and talent add to it though. Sometimes the DC just calls the right play, but more often than not someone just missed an assignment or didn't make the right read. Jmo though

 

[CINCYVOL]

first off i agree their on better coaches, but most of them had teams handled to them! or have been their for years! butch was handled bs from dooley who shouldn't be teaching a pee wee team to play football! we have/had little to no depth! butch is turning this thing around!

as far as throwing on goalline worley had a open player in the back of the endzone and threw it into a small window thats on "HIM" not the coach!

How are these teams being handled?
Sounds pretty creepy to me.

 

[bamawriter]

Execution is normally the problem when plays gain no yards. Timely defensive play calling and talent add to it though. Sometimes the DC just calls the right play, but more often than not someone just missed an assignment or didn't make the right read. Jmo though

I don't disagree. And given UT's better than average schedule to this point, some of it can be attributed to the opponents' defensive execution.

But again, Tennessee has run a ton of plays. And yet their yards per play is only 4.65. That's ahead of lousy Vandy at 4.29, but #12 is all the way up at 6.12. That is a really large gap.

If that's all on execution, then the coaches need to simplify some stuff and slow things down.

 

[TennMan101]

Each and every coach is faithful to Tennessee and is striving to take us to the top. They have all returned for a second year. They are all doing a hell of a job. For anyone to call for replacements during this rebuilding process shows how little they know. The one thing we did not have with Dooley was continuity in the coaching staff. You know the result. Evidently some don't bother to listen to each coach's regular interviews. Don't be criticizing our players and our coaches now!! Wait til the season is over. IT IS DETRIMENTAL TO OUR PROGRESSION! It is also annoying to "real" Volunteer fans.

I have been a Vol fan my WHOLE life & I wouldn't be opposed to a new OC & for you to question my loyalty to my team is unforgivable & to be honest it's fighting words where I come from!

 

[SmokeyFTW]

I don't even understand the arguments... All our issues appear to be pretty straight forwards:/
The team is doing great, our Defense is amazing, our offense shows huge potential. The sole reason the offense isn't great also is because our offensive line was playing high school football just months ago and we expect them perform against experienced college defenses, most recently a defense from a team ranked 4th in the nation.

Even with all that against them on offense they still had great plays. Every week the o-line gets better, you will see them start to create gaps(giving room for rushing yards) along with giving more time for the receivers to make it down field/ and more time for the QB to find them. That QB is also the QB that seemingly everyone on this forum hated last year.

Just think about this for a moment, when the O-Line starts creating gaps opening up our run game the defense will have to respect our run game. Once that occurs their coverage on our recievers won't be as heavy allowing for more plays there which is already doing great. Also the line being more experienced will keep the pressure off the QB, ontop of them not putting as much pressure on the QB because they won't be able to dump all those player trying to sack due to the bodies needing to be covered down field.

All this is easy stuff to recognize if you watch the game and even slightly know football. I just can't imagine people being upset or nervous right now:/

I agree, we have young players, and with time, more experience their execution if the offense will get better. I'm not nervous, but very optimistic. I like where we're headed.

 

[SmokeyFTW]

I don't disagree. And given UT's better than average schedule to this point, some of it can be attributed to the opponents' defensive execution.

But again, Tennessee has run a ton of plays. And yet their yards per play is only 4.65. That's ahead of lousy Vandy at 4.29, but #12 is all the way up at 6.12. That is a really large gap.

If that's all on execution, then the coaches need to simplify some stuff and slow things down.

I would be invested to know the amount of plays we've ran against the team with a 6.12 avg. It seems to me that your average would drop the more plays you run. Sense there would be more of a chance to have a play that gains nothing or a play that goes for a loss averaged in there. I don't think it's the tempo causing the problem. I think it's just us being young.

 

[oregonvol]

What? No one in their right mind would draw up a play that can't be executed.
Your post is perplexing. I'm not sure what you're trying to get at.

Your post assumes that all plays can be executed equally well by all players. It's a coach's job to make sure that their players can execute the plays. If they call plays that don't fit their players strengths or abilities or they haven't properly prepared them to execute the plays, then they are bad play calls. If you aren't factoring in your players' abilities when you call the play, then you aren't doing your job.

 

[bamawriter]

I would be invested to know the amount of plays we've ran against the team with a 6.12 avg. It seems to me that your average would drop the more plays you run. Sense there would be more of a chance to have a play that gains nothing or a play that goes for a loss averaged in there. I don't think it's the tempo causing the problem. I think it's just us being young.

A&M is 2nd in number of plays at 236 (3 behind UT), but they are averaging 7.57 ypp (almost 3 yards per play more than UT).

LSU is at 6.12 yards per play, and they are also a young offense (though not as young as UT). But they have run 123 fewer plays than UT.

 

[KBVol]

I would be invested to know the amount of plays we've ran against the team with a 6.12 avg. It seems to me that your average would drop the more plays you run. Sense there would be more of a chance to have a play that gains nothing or a play that goes for a loss averaged in there. I don't think it's the tempo causing the problem. I think it's just us being young.

I don't know who the #12 team is that averages 6.12 yds per play, but I know we haven't played them yet since Georgia will be our first SEC opponent next week.

 

[PowerWookie]

I don't disagree. And given UT's better than average schedule to this point, some of it can be attributed to the opponents' defensive execution.

But again, Tennessee has run a ton of plays. And yet their yards per play is only 4.65. That's ahead of lousy Vandy at 4.29, but #12 is all the way up at 6.12. That is a really large gap.

If that's all on execution, then the coaches need to simplify some stuff and slow things down.

too many 1-2 yard runs, sacks which are negative yards which substantially affect this stat, and incomplete passes (many are due to worley being hurried)...

it's called math... it may be hard for a bammer to comprehend... these negative and 0-2 yard plays bring that number down...as simple as that IMO..

T sum it up lot of it points to oline.. they will get better... I hope

not sure if you can the majority of problems on play calling..

sure play calling could always be better..

Just ask saban if he would try and kick the 50 yarder against Aubrun last year again

 

[Rooster1]

too many 1-2 yard runs, sacks which are negative yards which substantially affect this stat, and incomplete passes (many are due to worley being hurried)...

it's called math... it may be hard for a bammer to comprehend... these negative and 0-2 yard plays bring that number down...as simple as that IMO..

T sum it up lot of it points to oline.. they will get better... I hope

not sure if you can the majority of problems on play calling..

sure play calling could always be better..

Just ask saban if he would try and kick the 50 yarder against Aubrun last year again

So there is a chance?

 

[SmokeyFTW]

So there is a chance?

I don't understand gobble. What are you trying to bring to the conversation?

 

[PowerWookie]

I don't understand gobble. What are you trying to bring to the conversation?

He got confused once he read the word math

 

[OrangeDonkey]

I agree with most of what you're saying, but our play calling was horrendous in some instances

Really?

What play call is there for an offense that can't block on a pass that takes more than one second (literally) to develop, can't open holes for the run game, or execute screen plays?

If you want to criticize the offensive scheme then that's one thing; but if you're criticizing the play calling, you should take a step back.

 

[tm3]

But he's gotten 21 likes. How do you explain that?

Better living thru pharmacology

 

[kidbourbon]

Each and every coach is faithful to Tennessee and is striving to take us to the top. They have all returned for a second year. They are all doing a hell of a job. For anyone to call for replacements during this rebuilding process shows how little they know. The one thing we did not have with Dooley was continuity in the coaching staff. You know the result. Evidently some don't bother to listen to each coach's regular interviews. Don't be criticizing our players and our coaches now!! Wait til the season is over. IT IS DETRIMENTAL TO OUR PROGRESSION! It is also annoying to "real" Volunteer fans.

I would insult you, but ...

• Faithful to Tennessee? Lol
• A hell of a job? That's a conclusion. What's your support for that? Anything at all? No? Okay, stop wasting electrons, simpleton.
• Why does it show how little they know? Because of your unsupported conclusion that they are "doing a hell of a job"? Great argument, Corky.
• You think that the reason Dooley failed was lack of continuity in the coaching staff? I'm reluctant to ask you if you're retarded because I think you might be like actually retarded.
• If you think there is anything valuable to be learned from a coach's interviews, you are beyond saving.
• Don't criticize? Huh? should we cancel all message boards? Detrimental to the team? Huh? So they all get on VN before the games for motivation? Great to know.
• Okay, you're clearly trolling. Real fan. Ha! Nice troll job.

 

[Boca Vol]

I have been a Vol fan my WHOLE life & I wouldn't be opposed to a new OC & for you to question my loyalty to my team is unforgivable & to be honest it's fighting words where I come from!

You are correct.

It always cracks me up when people equate blind loyalty to being a "true" fan.

Blind loyalty doesn't make one a better fan, it makes them a worse fan. If fans never voiced their displeasure, where is the need for change.

If Neyland was packed during the Dooley years, he would still be the coach. The fans spoke with their wallets and absense...thus a change.

 

[SeniorDrill]

This is a "BRICK BY BRICK" rebuilding process. Until this team gets beat by a team they are favored over, shut your traps! JMO! And for God's sakes, stay off the players' backs. The coaches are the ones who make those calls. This team is working their butts off to give you something to cheer about. They will make mistakes. They are young. You have an offensive line with the whole right side freshmen going against 4th and 5th year seniors 4 or 5 years older than they are and you saying the play calling does not work. Geez, Louise, how ignorant some of you are!

 

[BearCat204]

If you want to criticize the offensive scheme then that's one thing; but if you're criticizing the play calling, you should take a step back.

or just call another WR sweep

 

[KBVol]

This is a "BRICK BY BRICK" rebuilding process. Until this team gets beat by a team they are favored over, shut your traps! JMO! And for God's sakes, stay off the players' backs. The coaches are the ones who make those calls. This team is working their butts off to give you something to cheer about. They will make mistakes. They are young. You have an offensive line with the whole right side freshmen going against 4th and 5th year seniors 4 or 5 years older than they are and you saying the play calling does not work. Geez, Louise, how ignorant some of you are!

Dude, stop digging the hole, it's only getting deeper. You playing the "real fan" card is utterly ridiculous and beyond ignorant, right along with the thread title. You like the coaching staff, what they're doing and how they're going about things. I get it, I do too. But the best coaching staff in the SEC, right now? Patently false and, again, utterly ridiculous.

Btw, according to OddShark, Tennessee was a 2.5-3 pt favorite at home vs Vanderbilt last year and we all know how that game turned out. Do I still have to shut my trap?