This coaching staff is SEC's best!!

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KBVol said:
Btw, according to OddShark, Tennessee was a 2.5-3 pt favorite at home vs Vanderbilt last year and we all know how that game turned out. Do I still have to shut my trap?
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wonder how much higher the line would have gone if OddShark knew before the game that Vandy would lose all of its starting D backfield during that game?
 
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SeniorDrill said:
This is a "BRICK BY BRICK" rebuilding process. Until this team gets beat by a team they are favored over, shut your traps!
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Well, okay then... hmmm... looks like they got beat by a Vanderbilt team they were favored over at home on November 23rd 2013...I guess we can now proceed as usual, right?
 
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oregonvol said:
Well, okay then... hmmm... looks like they got beat by a Vanderbilt team they were favored over at home on November 23rd 2013...I guess we can now proceed as usual, right?
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You would remind me of that debacle. I was on row 3 40 yard line. Happened right in front of me. Tenn leading 10-7 with 48 seconds to go. Stopped Vandy on 4th down. Stadium went berserk just like the 2010 Music City Bowl. Franklin challenged spot and won. Next play 25 yard completion to Tn 8. Scored with 16 seconds left. That one doesn't count! :)
 
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SeniorDrill said:
You would remind me of that debacle. I was on row 3 40 yard line. Happened right in front of me. Tenn leading 10-7 with 48 seconds to go. Stopped Vandy on 4th down. Stadium went berserk just like the 2010 Music City Bowl. Franklin challenged spot and won. Next play 25 yard completion to Tn 8. Scored with 16 seconds left. That one doesn't count! :)
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Figures.
 
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bamawriter said:
It's got to be a bit of both at this point. The execution has been up-and-down, and the competition has been solid, but there's no way to say that the playcalling is above criticism.

Tennessee is #1 in the SEC in number of plays run, but only #11 in total yards, and #13 in yards per play (ahead of only Vandy's wretched offense).

If you truly believe that's solely on execution, then you should be knocking the coaches for going faster than the team is capable of effectively operating.
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Allow me to point out the level of competition other SEC teams have played against so far:
Alabama - WVU, Florida Atlantic, and Southern Miss, don't argue that one
Arkansas - Auburn yes, but A TTU team that barely beat UTEP and most of their yardage came in stomping Nicholls State
Auburn - Plenty against Arkansas and SJSU... no comparison of talent there really
Florida - Kentucky and Eastern Michigan with a ton of yards versus EM
Georgia - Clemson and SC, I have no complaint here
Kentucky - UT Martin? Ohio? And yes okay Florida.
LSU - Yes Wisconsin but..... ULM and the mighty Sam Houston State?
Miss State - they've played Souther Miss, UAB, and South Alabama.....
Mizzou - has played South Dakota State, Toledo, and UCF who lost their star QB
Ole Miss - Boise, Vandy lol, and Louisiana Rajin' whatevers
South Carolina - TA&M, ECU, and Georgia, no complaints here
Tennessee - Utah State, Ark State, and OU, all 3 teams are potential contenders for their conferences
Texas A&M - South Carolina okay... but Lamar and Rice?
Vandy - lol.

Outside of Georgia and South Carolina we have played the toughest schedule yet. I don't think the point you're attempting to make is fair, nor do I think it takes into account the fact that we have played better competition than most other SEC schools SO FAR.
 
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WilliamDuVOL said:
Allow me to point out the level of competition other SEC teams have played against so far:...


Outside of Georgia and South Carolina we have played the toughest schedule yet. I don't think the point you're attempting to make is fair, nor do I think it takes into account the fact that we have played better competition than most other SEC schools SO FAR.
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I acknowledged as much in the post you quoted.

But the disparity in yards per play is huge right now. It's not all on the defenses.

Some of it is execution, particularly by the Oline. But I think Jones and Bajakian are doing their guys a disservice with the scheme right now.
 
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bamawriter said:
I acknowledged as much in the post you quoted.

But the disparity in yards per play is huge right now. It's not all on the defenses.

Some of it is execution, particularly by the Oline. But I think Jones and Bajakian are doing their guys a disservice with the scheme right now.
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Well, in that case my bad. Regardless, look at the defenses we've played. USU has shut down almost all running games they've encountered in the past and held them to statistic season lows, including Auburn, USC, and Wisconsin. Arkansas State has a better defense than almost all those other teams listed. Don't even get me started on Oklahoma's defense.

I know some is attributed to execution and youth, but don't tell me any other SEC team's stats would look as good as they do if they'd played our schedule, once agian UGA and South Carolina excluded.

Scheme, well, that's debatable to an extent. It depends, is it the scheme and lack of ability of our O coaches to scheme, or is it the lack of solid, experienced players to execute that scheme.
 
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WilliamDuVOL said:
Well, in that case my bad. Regardless, look at the defenses we've played. USU has shut down almost all running games they've encountered in the past and held them to statistic season lows, including Auburn, USC, and Wisconsin. Arkansas State has a better defense than almost all those other teams listed. Don't even get me started on Oklahoma's defense.

I know some is attributed to execution and youth, but don't tell me any other SEC team's stats would look as good as they do if they'd played our schedule, once agian UGA and South Carolina excluded.

Scheme, well, that's debatable to an extent. It depends, is it the scheme and lack of ability of our O coaches to scheme, or is it the lack of solid, experienced players to execute that scheme.
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We should be able to run better than we have this year regardless of the competition.
 
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GAMECOCK said:
Spurrier is the best coach in the SEC.
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To sum up IMHO.....

Saban's pretty damn good, Miles has a natty, Spurrier has a natty and has built 2 SEC programs into national powers, Richt has won a ton of games, Pinkel clearly coaches to success levels well beyond his recruiting rankings & played for a SEC title last year, Freeze is making waves and making OleMiss relevant, Sumlin has TAM at the highest levels in program history, Mullen is meh at Miss St but this year's team looks to be a top 25 team, Gus Malzahn won the SEC with Auburn and played for a Natty his first year.....jury still out on Bielema, Stoops and Butch. Mason absolutely sucks and is over his skis.

Spurrier's an all time great. My money's on Saban though..... Total of 4 national titles with 2 different SEC teams... even had more success in the NFL than Spurrier.
 
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SeniorDrill said:
You would remind me of that debacle. I was on row 3 40 yard line. Happened right in front of me. Tenn leading 10-7 with 48 seconds to go. Stopped Vandy on 4th down. Stadium went berserk just like the 2010 Music City Bowl. Franklin challenged spot and won. Next play 25 yard completion to Tn 8. Scored with 16 seconds left. That one doesn't count! :)
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Well, there is nothing I can say to those who choose to bury their heads in the sand. Don't understand though why you want to start threads when you can't deal with basic facts.
 
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PowerWookie said:
too many 1-2 yard runs, sacks which are negative yards which substantially affect this stat, and incomplete passes (many are due to worley being hurried)...

it's called math... it may be hard for a bammer to comprehend... these negative and 0-2 yard plays bring that number down...as simple as that IMO..

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lot of it points to oline.. they will get better... I hope

not sure if you can the majority of problems on play calling..

sure play calling could always be better..

Just ask saban if he would try and kick the 50 yarder against Aubrun last year again
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This is the root of that stat IMO
 
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Bottom line is even if they aren't dedicated to us as we might want them to be, they still are going to build this team back. In a few years from now people can look back and say one of a few things;

1. CBJ and company deserves the biggest praise for turning a failing football program around, and can go to any program to coach for whatever sum of money he wants.

Or

2. He was another wash, and his stock as a coach wont look so good anymore.

We know he's a winner, and ultimately he's doing a great job. Even if I were to have a problem with one of his assistants I'm not holding them accountable, CBJ holds the power to correct those issues just as he gets all the praise at the end if all goes well. Even if he wants to go elsewhere in the future then so be it. I know, and he knows, his options wouldn't be great if he fails here. So at the ends I know he will get us where we need to be.

Now of course as long as he stays the course I'd love to keep them around.
 
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advancedrescue27 said:
Bottom line is even if they aren't dedicated to us as we might want them to be, they still are going to build this team back. In a few years from now people can look back and say one of a few things;

1. CBJ and company deserves the biggest praise for turning a failing football program around, and can go to any program to coach for whatever sum of money he wants.

Or

2. He was another wash, and his stock as a coach wont look so good anymore.

We know he's a winner, and ultimately he's doing a great job. Even if I were to have a problem with one of his assistants I'm not holding them accountable, CBJ holds the power to correct those issues just as he gets all the praise at the end if all goes well. Even if he wants to go elsewhere in the future then so be it. I know, and he knows, his options wouldn't be great if he fails here. So at the ends I know he will get us where we need to be.

Now of course as long as he stays the course I'd love to keep them around.
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Good post. He seems to be on the right track and he will be judged on where we end up and not where we are potentially heading.
 
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KBVol said:
To sum up IMHO.....

Saban's pretty damn good, Miles has a natty, Spurrier has a natty and has built 2 SEC programs into national powers, Richt has won a ton of games, Pinkel clearly coaches to success levels well beyond his recruiting rankings & played for a SEC title last year, Freeze is making waves and making OleMiss relevant, Sumlin has TAM at the highest levels in program history, Mullen is meh at Miss St but this year's team looks to be a top 25 team, Gus Malzahn won the SEC with Auburn and played for a Natty his first year.....jury still out on Bielema, Stoops and Butch. Mason absolutely sucks and is over his skis.

Spurrier's an all time great. My money's on Saban though..... Total of 4 national titles with 2 different SEC teams... even had more success in the NFL than Spurrier.
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Perfect summary
 
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I don't necessarily agree that it's the best in the SEC, but IMO it's the best coaching staff Tennessee could have brought in, and it's the best staff for team 117, 118, 119 and so on. The fact that they can stick together has stabilized a crumbling program. Fulmer one year, Kiffin the next, Dooley the next... and under Dooley a lot of those kids had a different position coach or coordinator almost every year.

I firmly believe that we'll be able to look back in 3,4,5 maybe even 9 years and see that the last Dooley year and Butch's first year were the true "bottoming out" point of the program. Why? Because of this head coach and his staff.
 
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SeniorDrill said:
Each and every coach is faithful to Tennessee and is striving to take us to the top. They have all returned for a second year. They are all doing a hell of a job. For anyone to call for replacements during this rebuilding process shows how little they know. The one thing we did not have with Dooley was continuity in the coaching staff. You know the result. Evidently some don't bother to listen to each coach's regular interviews. Don't be criticizing our players and our coaches now!! Wait til the season is over. IT IS DETRIMENTAL TO OUR PROGRESSION! It is also annoying to "real" Volunteer fans.
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Real fan alert
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Real fan alert

Everyone stand back.. this is a real fan.
 
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I have been pleasantly surprised with our defense, but disappointed in the kicking game and the reluctance to replace dy as kick returner. Offensively, we have been about what I expected with a subpar, mediocre at best oline. Like Doug Mathews, I hope we can become average at some point. I think we can still win six games.
Even though the future is bright, the same can be said for Arkansas and kentucky perhaps. There is not enough room in this league for ten good teams. Who is going to fall off?
Beliema was a much better hire than people want to admit. Arkansas is going to beat a couple of big boys this year. When David pollack said we were a bottom tier sec team, why were folks upset? There are 9 teams in the ap top twenty five. Would the bottom four not include vandy,Kentucky,Tennessee and Arkansas ? Miss st, Florida,Missouri, and Carolina are in the second tier? Bama,aubie,Uga,Aggies,ole miss, and lsu in the top tier? This is a brutal league and I see nobody with less than two losses.
 
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