This Football thing is now a Business

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YankeeVol said:
Definitely think they would be. Realistically they could easily be 9-1 right now (Ole Miss was the only one not close).
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Vanderbilt lost to 2-8 Georgia St, so that is dumb...of course they wouldn't be undefeated since there are 8-9 teams better than GaSt on Indiana's schedule. Some of you guys make some really illogical arguments...and South Carolina was tied with ODU midway through the 4th quarter
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
Vanderbilt lost to 2-8 Georgia St, so that is dumb...of course they wouldn't be undefeated since there are 8-9 teams better than GaSt on Indiana's schedule. Some of you guys make some really illogical arguments...and South Carolina was tied with ODU midway through the 4th quarter
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I highlighted SC bud, not Vandy.
 
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ESPN has the exclusive media rights to the college football playoff. They influence who gets in so that it helps their business. They want the UGAs, Bamas, OSUs of the world to always succeed because they get more eyes.

Nothing is fair or balanced in this sport. That is why we should have stayed with the bowls instead of the CFP. You cannot have a fair playoff considering the disparity of talent, resources, and money across a sport of 133 teams.
 
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Nico ee-ah-MAH-LAY-ah-va said:
ESPN has the exclusive media rights to the college football playoff. They influence who gets in so that it helps their business. They want the UGAs, Bamas, OSUs of the world to always succeed because they get more eyes.

Nothing is fair or balanced in this sport. That is why we should have stayed with the bowls instead of the CFP. You cannot have a fair playoff considering the disparity of talent, resources, and money across a sport of 133 teams.
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You think they bribe committee members?
 
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I blame sports gambling. Since it’s legalization I’ve noticed an increase in biased and influential officiating and biased narratives by the media, in both CF and the NFL.

Its legalization has made it a huge, very lucrative, and very influential conglomerate and the amount of money on the line makes NIL look like pocket change.
 
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JRich said:
I blame sports gambling. Since it’s legalization I’ve noticed an increase in biased and influential officiating and biased narratives by the media, in both CF and the NFL.

Its legalization has made it a huge, very lucrative, and very influential conglomerate.
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How so? Are games intentionally fixed? Who profits from biased officiating and why?
 
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JRich said:
I blame sports gambling. Since it’s legalization I’ve noticed an increase in biased and influential officiating and biased narratives by the media, in both CF and the NFL.

Its legalization has made it a huge, very lucrative, and very influential conglomerate and the amount of money on the line makes NIL look like pocket change.
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Refs never have to talk in front of a mic to defend their calls. Everything is behind closed doors. Vegas at least knows which ref is biased based on the analytics. They have numbers on everybody in the league.

It is not a far leap to bribes and influence.
 
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JohnWardForever said:
And with the amount of $$$$$ involved with the NIL collectives, and the availability of top talent, Coaching is going to be scrutinized more than ever, and at a premium. It is now nothing more than a business, and as such demands performance. Only the best will be at the top. The "we are young and just need a couple more recruiting classes" just won't get it anymore. Look at Indiana. First year Head Coach, brought many players with him through the Portal. Has a shot at the Playoffs--First year. Just received an EIGHT year extension and hefty raise. That's Coaching. These Head Coaches better hire the best assistants and get it done; or else. The Millions of dollars demand it. So do the Fans. They want results for their contributions.
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It has literally been a business since the 80's. Probably longer, honestly.
 
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JohnWardForever said:
And with the amount of $$$$$ involved with the NIL collectives, and the availability of top talent, Coaching is going to be scrutinized more than ever, and at a premium. It is now nothing more than a business, and as such demands performance. Only the best will be at the top. The "we are young and just need a couple more recruiting classes" just won't get it anymore. Look at Indiana. First year Head Coach, brought many players with him through the Portal. Has a shot at the Playoffs--First year. Just received an EIGHT year extension and hefty raise. That's Coaching. These Head Coaches better hire the best assistants and get it done; or else. The Millions of dollars demand it. So do the Fans. They want results for their contributions.
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I have nothing against Cignetti I think he’s a good coach. But possibly playing the 108th ranked schedule might have something to do with that performance. (I don’t actually know their current schedule rank but it was in the 100’s last I checked)
 
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DaddyChad said:
I have nothing against Cignetti I think he’s a good coach. But possibly playing the 108th ranked schedule might have something to do with that performance. (I don’t actually know their current schedule rank but it was in the 100’s last I checked)
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But Vandy lost to GaSt. Don't you understand?
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
How are they OVER them?
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ESPN owns the media rights. CFP committee cannot do anything without ESPN. Its like owning a castle but somebody else owns the bridge to get to it. ESPN chooses who gets to go over that bridge.

Officially the CFP playoff is owned by a company called "BCS Holdings" which is just a holding company. ESPN pays $1.3 billion a year to be the exclusive media partner. They call the shots.
 
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JohnWardForever said:
Ok then. All Indy has done is beat every team on their schedule, (all anyone can do) and exceed expectations EVERY week (cover pointspreads) Indiana would handle Vandy IMO, Cignetti knows how to beat Ga St. Last year JMAD 42, GaST 14. and Ga St had a winning record.(7-6) This year they are 2-8, with wins over Chatt & VANDY. Hello.
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Indiana has not beat anyone with a FPI higher than Arkansas who is @ 32nd FPI. Our worst loss of the 2 Ls is higher FPI than Indiana's best win. They cannot help it they play their schedule but it may put them completely out if they lose badly to OSU. Watch and see if they run it a lot and try to shorten the game by using all of the clock on every play. I believe the thinking is if they keep it close they will get in with the help of the B1G brass wanting they're conference deeply repped, its what the uppers do. I think the SEC brass is happy a lot of SEC teams may end up 10-2 or better getting the most in is their goal, they were happy when UGA beat UT that made each team a 2 loss team still available, UGA with 3rd loss was bad for the SEC in their opinion, I believe.
 
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JohnWardForever said:
And with the amount of $$$$$ involved with the NIL collectives, and the availability of top talent, Coaching is going to be scrutinized more than ever, and at a premium. It is now nothing more than a business, and as such demands performance. Only the best will be at the top. The "we are young and just need a couple more recruiting classes" just won't get it anymore. Look at Indiana. First year Head Coach, brought many players with him through the Portal. Has a shot at the Playoffs--First year. Just received an EIGHT year extension and hefty raise. That's Coaching. These Head Coaches better hire the best assistants and get it done; or else. The Millions of dollars demand it. So do the Fans. They want results for their contributions.
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It's always been a business
 
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Nico ee-ah-MAH-LAY-ah-va said:
ESPN owns the media rights. CFP committee cannot do anything without ESPN. Its like owning a castle but somebody else owns the bridge to get to it. ESPN chooses who gets to go over that bridge.

Officially the CFP playoff is owned by a company called "BCS Holdings" which is just a holding company. ESPN pays $1.3 billion a year to be the exclusive media partner. They call the shots.
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They actually call no shots, don't choose committee members, and have no say in who gets selected. To say otherwise is just to not have an understanding of how the process works.
 
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Indiana would at best be 7-5 at year's end if they played any SEC team schedule. Period. Thinking that team is some kind of juggernaut is just stupid and naive. I'm sure Cignetti is a good coach, but let's face it, teams outside the SEC are only really as good as the mid-tier SEC Teams and usually get taken to the woodshed when they play real competition.
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
How so? Are games intentionally fixed? Who profits from biased officiating and why?
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The NBA ref was fixing games by calling fouls on certain players to manipulate the score. He had an in with a bookie and passed along his information using code names in their phone calls. He got caught because the other bookies caught on to their scheme and started betting the same games. Investigators soon started following these bets and zoomed in on the ref in those games.

The game can be fixed but when big money is bet on certain games, red flags go up.
Checks and balance
 
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JohnWardForever said:
Cignetti won big at JMAD, took a good many JMAD players with him, and now has Indiana at a level they never dreamed of. He will be National Coach of the year. Indiana didn't want to lose him to the likes of Okla, Usc, Lsu, Fsu, ect. To accomplish what He has is nothing short of amazing. The Hoosiers play well EVERY week, even with the backup QB. (Tayven Jackson) "I win football games". Yes he does.
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This week we'll see if he wins the first tough, or even close to tough game on that joke of a schedule in a conference with 3-4 good teams out of 18. I'm not knocking Cignetti, but let's tap the brakes on crowning him for beating a lot of bad football teams.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Right. So raises and extensions = retention for coaches and raises = retention for players.

Overall, as long as the money holds strong, the college football product will thrive.

This new 12 team playoff generates "newness interest" for fans as we try to figure it out.

It's no longer just Bama, Ohio State, and lately GA being at the head of the pack. Oregon (read: Nike $$$$) and TX (read: oil $$$$) are rapidly figuring out that they CAN buy enough players and stable coaching to win in this era.

It's definitely no longer college football, of course, but a hybrid pro league, but there's some good football to watch and that's enough for most fans, especially when compared to the years of "is it Saban or Urban who is going to win it this year?"
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Until the season doesn't go as planned...the ln everyone wants the coach fired AND he has a huge buyout.
 
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