This is pretty telling,

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VolBuck24 said:
Just like it was said in an earlier post he's just the only one that speaks his mind. I don't think he needs or needed to do those things to get recognition he just wanted to do it just because. And the HOF is about what you do on the field and on the field Owens is one of the greats.
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My whole point is that his attitude and his lack of professionalism is what many people will remember. Not his talents.

Dude was a shoddy teammate as well.
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swoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosh.

Did yall hear that? It was the sound of a sarcastic joke flying over your heads.

ps, TO = Still unemployed.
 
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If a GM could sign TO for what he's worth and then trade him for what he thinks he's worth, that would be a great deal.

I never really disliked the guy, but I did think it laughable when he said the only reason Rice was great is cause of Montana and Young.

Anyone who thinks he is one of the greatest of all time is crazy. I would take Rice, Irvin, Dwight Clark, Swann, Moss and Fitzgerald over TO any day.
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tri_vol said:
If a GM could sign TO for what he's worth and then trade him for what he thinks he's worth, that would be a great deal.

I never really disliked the guy, but I did think it laughable when he said the only reason Rice was great is cause of Montana and Young.

Anyone who thinks he is one of the greatest of all time is crazy. I would take Rice, Irvin, Dwight Clark, Swann, Moss and Fitzgerald over TO any day.
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Numbers say otherwise. Also Fitzgerald isn't one of the greats and if TO isn't one of them then there's no way Moss is. All the others i agree on though.
 
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VolBuck24 said:
Numbers say otherwise. Also Fitzgerald isn't one of the greats and if TO isn't one of them then there's no way Moss is. All the others i agree on though.
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TO would be going into something like year 15 of his career this year while Larry is going into his 7th. Fitzgerald's stats will blow Owens' out of the water if they both play anywhere near the same number of years in the league. Fitz is a better player, plain and simple. He also didn't feel the need to tell everyone how good he is on a weekly basis or do driveway crunches in the process.
 
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lylsmorr said:
TO would be going into something like year 15 of his career this year while Larry is going into his 7th. Fitzgerald's stats will blow Owens' out of the water if they both play anywhere near the same number of years in the league. Fitz is a better player, plain and simple. He also didn't feel the need to tell everyone how good he is on a weekly basis or do driveway crunches in the process.
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Fitz is good don't get my wrong, but he didn't start his career behind the greatest receiver ever to play the game. If we are comparing right now then yes Fitz is better, but at their peaks I'd take Owens. Also him saying how good he is and the driveway incident doesn't bother me.
 
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VolBuck24 said:
Fitz is good don't get my wrong, but he didn't start his career behind the greatest receiver ever to play the game. If we are comparing right now then yes Fitz is better, but at their peaks I'd take Owens. Also him saying how good he is and the driveway incident doesn't bother me.
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I would think that logic seems kinda faulty don't you? T.O joined a Niners team, that yes had THE greatest WR to ever play and a history of winning and couldn't get it done there. Within 5-6 years that team fell to pieces and hasn't even really recovered. Fitzgerald has begun his career in Arizona...a team that had little good to their history. Over the past few years Arizona's become a potenial power in their division. Much of that could be attached to Fitz's play.

A Fitz-T.O comparison is silly right now, because we don't know if Fitz has reached his peak yet. But so long as Fitz keeps up what he's doing, even if he never wins a SB or even never plays in another...I'd still take him over Owens. Because he's actually helped take a team from the dirt and put them within distance of the promised land. Whether or not Owens gets into the HoF, there will always be fans that remember him for his antics and the teams he's put into the dirt.
 
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AlexioVol21 said:
I would think that logic seems kinda faulty don't you? T.O joined a Niners team, that yes had THE greatest WR to ever play and a history of winning and couldn't get it done there. Within 5-6 years that team fell to pieces and hasn't even really recovered. Fitzgerald has begun his career in Arizona...a team that had little good to their history. Over the past few years Arizona's become a potenial power in their division. Much of that could be attached to Fitz's play.

A Fitz-T.O comparison is silly right now, because we don't know if Fitz has reached his peak yet. But so long as Fitz keeps up what he's doing, even if he never wins a SB or even never plays in another...I'd still take him over Owens. Because he's actually helped take a team from the dirt and put them within distance of the promised land. Whether or not Owens gets into the HoF, there will always be fans that remember him for his antics and the teams he's put into the dirt.
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It's hard to say that he couldn't get it done when he had at least 900 yards in 6 of his 8 seasons in San Fran.
 
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VolBuck24 said:
It's hard to say that he couldn't get it done when he had at least 900 yards in 6 of his 8 seasons in San Fran.
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I wouldn't argue with that if those yards actually equalled wins and playoff apearences. There are a plethra of fans who would say a 2,000 yard reciever wouldn't mean much on a team that couldn't win the big games.
 
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AlexioVol21 said:
I wouldn't argue with that if those yards actually equalled wins and playoff apearences. There are a plethra of fans who would say a 2,000 yard reciever wouldn't mean much on a team that couldn't win the big games.
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True, but i don't see how them not winning is a reflection on him because he obviously did his part.
 
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