this team has definitely made progress.....

The team made progress in the fact that they beat South Carolina. A ranked opponent.
I was there that day and I saw improvement from 2012's team.

Spurrier threw us a bone the way he coached that game. I was embarrassed to be a Vol fan for the first time ever last week. That was the most pathetic offensive effort I have witnessed in my 40 years.
 
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Spurrier threw us a bone the way he coached that game. I was embarrassed to be a Vol fan for the first time ever last week. That was the most pathetic offensive effort I have witnessed in my 40 years.

I find it ironic though that most on here blame the defense for the loss.
 
I saw improvement through the SC game, after that was steady regression. I know the starting qb was/is out but the rest of the team and even the coaches were playing scared. I've been disappointed this year, but I think things will turn in the vols favor starting next year.
 
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The off field aspect, grades/recruiting have been very good with the APR being borderline miraculous. This is an awesome achievement that is in line with Cheek's wish to make UT, a land grant university charged with educating the masses not the super elite, an Ivy League- South school. (Exaggeration intended).

However, I've seen little to no progress, even regression in some cases, with the actual on field aspects of the football program.
 
The off field aspect, grades/recruiting have been very good with the APR being borderline miraculous. This is an awesome achievement that is in line with Cheek's wish to make UT, a land grant university charged with educating the masses not the super elite, an Ivy League- South school. (Exaggeration intended).

However, I've seen little to no progress, even regression in some cases, with the actual on field aspects of the football program.

There were some areas where we went backwards but there were improvements too
 
Do y'all think we beat Vandy with Worley

Depends probably but a lot of people forgot that north went out with an injury and didn't come back in, that really effected our passing game. Outside of North, Pig was our only other dependable receiver and all vandy had to do was concentrate on Pig after Norths injury.
 
Probably been mentioned but it appears, to me, that this team has regressed rather than improved. The discipline fell apart after we played a bunch of tomato cans.
 
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Probably been mentioned but it appears, to me, that this team has regressed rather than improved. The discipline fell apart after we played a bunch of tomato cans.


I believe that this team actually exhibited two separate trajectories: improvement over the course of the season up through the South Carolina game and then regression after we pushed deeper into the late October/November gauntlet. We sustained significant injuries to three of our four scholarship quarterbacks, which made the already challenging process of establishing cohesion within our passing game even more problematic, due to extreme inexperience at both the signalcaller position and the wide receiver corps. The decline/regression was more pronounced on defense, where we had to play a number of starters far too many plays due to chronic injuries and suspensions, most notably to Maurice Couch, Curt Maggett, Riyadh Jones and Trevarris Saulsberry. Butch hinted at the possible negative repercussions of this situation before they began to fully manifest themselves in the Alabama, Missouri and Auburn games. Defense and special teams which were already suboptimal in terms of depth and team speed gave all they had but, quite simply, wore down almost to the breaking point over the course of the last month.
 
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The team made progress in the fact that they beat South Carolina. A ranked opponent.
I was there that day and I saw improvement from 2012's team.


I agree with your assessment that we showed improvement against the Gamey Cocks, but did you see that same improvement in any of the rest of the games.

I certainly did not.
 
Probably been mentioned but it appears, to me, that this team has regressed rather than improved. The discipline fell apart after we played a bunch of tomato cans.

The way I saw it was that our offense had issues without the QB that gave the team the best chance to win as he proved again UGA and USCe..

and then they lost their best WR North against Vandy last week and this put even more stress on the young QB and running game as there is no stud to just throw it up to and no need to double team any of our WR...

or maybe it's all about tomato cans:crazy:
 
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I agree with your assessment that we showed improvement against the Gamey Cocks, but did you see that same improvement in any of the rest of the games.

I certainly did not.

The O had issues without Worley and even more without North... you cannot compare the team directly pre/post these players...

it's apples to oranges...

despite these injuries they were one play away from beating Vandy (a team which beat us like a drum last year ) which is progress in my eyes given the circumstances
 
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The way I saw it was that our offense had issues without the QB that gave the team the best chance to win as he proved again UGA and USCe..

and then they lost their best WR North against Vandy last week and this even put more stress on the young QB and running game as there is no stud to just throw it up to and no need to double team any of our WR...

or maybe it's all about tomato cans:crazy:

It's like saying we were winning/competitve in our races when we were racing the proven Ford mustang...

Well the mustang got wrecked...

we had to transition to a concept car that has some high potential but it never ran just right....

with YOUR logic we should win with either car despite the seconds limitations...

MY LOGIC says these cannot be directly compared
 
I believe that this team actually exhibited two separate trajectories: improvement over the course of the season up through the South Carolina game and then regression after we pushed deeper into the late October/November gauntlet. We sustained significant injuries to three of our four scholarship quarterbacks, which made the already challenging process of establishing cohesion within our passing game even more problematic, due to extreme inexperience at both the signalcaller position and the wide receiver corps. The decline/regression was more pronounced on defense, where we had to play a number of starters far too many plays due to chronic injuries and suspensions, most notably to Maurice Couch, Curt Maggett, Riyadh Jones and Trevarris Saulsberry. Butch hinted at the possible negative repercussions of this situation before they began to fully manifest themselves in the Alabama, Missouri and Auburn games. Defense and special teams which were already suboptimal in terms of depth and team speed gave all they had but, quite simply, wore down almost to the breaking point over the course of the last month.

agree about the special teams....

BUT THE D DID IMPROVE once they had the bye week to rest. After the So Ala game who would have thought they could hold any SEC team to 14 points
 
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Depends probably but a lot of people forgot that north went out with an injury and didn't come back in, that really effected our passing game. Outside of North, Pig was our only other dependable receiver and all vandy had to do was concentrate on Pig after Norths injury.

NOT ONLY THE PASSING GAME..

IT ALSO RUINED THE RUNNING GAME WHICH WAS OUR ENTIRE GAME PLAN with Dobbs playing shaky

with NORTH out no double teams really needed more players (the safety) in the box..

or maybe it's about tomato cans:crazy::crazy::eek:lol:
 
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agree about the special teams....

BUT THE D DID IMPROVE once they had the bye week to rest. After the So Ala game who would have thought they could hold any SEC team to 14 points


I agree. The defense did play well against the Commodes. My characterization of their "regression" applied mainly to the Alabama, Missouri and Auburn games. Actually, our kick coverage was excellent prior to the Alabama game. No opponent returned a kickoff more than 38 yards in the first seven games and we yielded only one punt return longer than ten yards during that time frame. From Florida through the South Carolina game, the punt return team gave up only 14 yards on 10 returns (UTSPORTS.COM - University of Tennessee Athletics - Football).
 
I agree. The defense did play well against the Commodes. My characterization of their "regression" applied mainly to the Alabama, Missouri and Auburn games. Actually, our kick coverage was excellent prior to the Alabama game. No opponent returned a kickoff more than 38 yards in the first seven games and we yielded only one punt return longer than ten yards during that time frame. From Florida through the South Carolina game, the punt return team gave up only 14 yards on 10 returns (UTSPORTS.COM - University of Tennessee Athletics - Football).

do u know when the palardy back spasms started and if they have stopped... this may be a part of the st issues
 
do u know when the palardy back spasms started and if they have stopped... this may be a part of the st issues


I don't know the answer to either of those questions and, to my knowledge, it was never specified whether it was lower back. However, it is worth noting that Michael is one of only seven FCS players who handle all place kicking, punting and kickoff duties.
 

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