Thompson Deserves His Own Thread After This Game

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Spartacavolus said:
I wish he would be even more assertive. His vision is fantastic. Needs to spread his feet on his shot though. Feet are way to close together, imo. I think that causes problems with the release up top. Shots start with the feet and legs and being square and consistent is tougher with the feet seemingly almost touching each other.
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Most of his shots are short. Which is a direct reflection of his feet. A coach with a half of a clue would have corrected that the moment he stepped on campus.

We don't have one.
 
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Daloth said:
You do realize what he said are things that even just an average basketball fan can realize and correct, let alone a coach at the DI level should know, right?
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What? Clicking your heels together before you shoot is a bad thing?
 
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Ronny Swanson said:
What? Clicking your heels together before you shoot is a bad thing?
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He's a very good shooter and if you've watched him prior to this year you'd know that. His confidence in his offense is down and he's passing up looks because he's not being assertive.

The kid can shoot and his form hasn't changed, most would say McRae's form is horrendous, but ya know what, it works.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
He's a very good shooter and if you've watched him prior to this year you'd know that. His confidence in his offense is down and he's passing up looks because he's not being assertive.

The kid can shoot and his form hasn't changed, most would say McRae's form is horrendous, but ya know what, it works.
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You're utterly clueless. Keep spewing out some garbage about RPI and embracing mediocrity. Any coach worth his weight in salt would take one look at Thompson and could make him into a much, much better shooter.
 
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Ronny Swanson said:
You're utterly clueless. Keep spewing out some garbage about RPI and embracing mediocrity. Any coach worth his weight in salt would take one look at Thompson and could make him into a much, much better shooter.
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I'm clueless because I've watched the kid play? Ok.

Like I said, McRae's form is hardly text book, but you don't see people F'n with it. Josh Richardson sets his feet at an angle and is shooting 45%.

Thompson was known as a very good shooter, the confidence just isn't there which is common for a freshman. He shoots well in practice, and in shootarounds, go back to the FB board.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I'm clueless because I've watched the kid play? Ok.

Like I said, McRae's form is hardly text book, but you don't see people F'n with it. Josh Richardson sets his feet at an angle and is shooting 45%.

Thompson was known as a very good shooter, the confidence just isn't there which is common for a freshman. He shoots well in practice, and in shootarounds, go back to the FB board.
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Back to the football board? You own the rights here just because you're a bumbling idiot?

Thompson will never, ever, ever be a consistent shooter with his feet like they are. Your psychobabble about assertiveness be damned.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
He's a very good shooter and if you've watched him prior to this year you'd know that. His confidence in his offense is down and he's passing up looks because he's not being assertive.

The kid can shoot and his form hasn't changed, most would say McRae's form is horrendous, but ya know what, it works.
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Thompson is 6-31 from 3. Good shooters don't shoot 19% His release and footwork needs help.
Jordan's release is nice and his feet are usually in good position. Some people get caught up in his right elbow flaring out, which means nothing, really.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
Thompson is 6-31 from 3. Good shooters don't shoot 19% His release and footwork needs help.
Jordan's release is nice and his feet are usually in good position. Some people get caught up in his right elbow flaring out, which means nothing, really.
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Well, it doesn't usually mean nothing, but you just don't mess with it with the way he shoots it. Normally, that flare causes side rotation on the ball and will cause misses unless he is cocking his wrist. Have a friend who has a weird shot like that, but we don't care because he plays pick up ball. I agree though that the feet are really important, too.
 
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Daloth said:
You do realize what he said are things that even just an average basketball fan can realize and correct, let alone a coach at the DI level should know, right?
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Well Thompson has lived with a basketball coach all his life I highly doubt some idiot on vol nation can fix his jumpshot by posting **** that some one earlier had said. I'm not saying his shot is perfect but damn it's not that easy to fix a jumpshot. He just needs to get in the gym and put up shots. Reggie miller didn't have a perfect jump shot but he was the best shooter ever in the NBA.
 
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VolGee4 said:
Well, it doesn't usually mean nothing, but you just don't mess with it with the way he shoots it. Normally, that flare causes side rotation on the ball and will cause misses unless he is cocking his wrist. Have a friend who has a weird shot like that, but we don't care because he plays pick up ball. I agree though that the feet are really important, too.
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as long as the elbow forms a triangle and there is full follow through, imo. Reggie Miller's elbow is splayed out. Some guys don't keep it tucked in because they can't see the rim with the arm in the way.
Also see some shooters that have it tucked in well, but have the ball go off the outside of the release hand/pinkie (think Jordan Howell's bricks when he was side spinning every shot while going @ 4-30) Elbow out just a tad in prep to shoot pretty much insures a release off the first two fingers. LB was considered to have the purest release, yet look at his elbow setup.
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Ronny Swanson said:
Back to the football board? You own the rights here just because you're a bumbling idiot?

Thompson will never, ever, ever be a consistent shooter with his feet like they are. Your psychobabble about assertiveness be damned.
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What about the others I've mentioned who's form is off but shoot just fine? Nothing to say Phil Jackson?
 
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Spartacavolus said:
Thompson is 6-31 from 3. Good shooters don't shoot 19% His release and footwork needs help.
Jordan's release is nice and his feet are usually in good position. Some people get caught up in his right elbow flaring out, which means nothing, really.
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Josh's feet are trash

And I'm sure I can find a span in which Marshall Henderson went 6-31 from deep, or Chris Lofton for that matter.

He was a great three point shooter in high school and AAU, and as others have mentioned has a college coach for a father. His shot is just fine, he nails them in practice, his confidence in games with his shot and all around offense is just down.
 
#67
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bleedingTNorange said:
Josh's feet are trash

And I'm sure I can find a span in which Marshall Henderson went 6-31 from deep, or Chris Lofton for that matter.

He was a great three point shooter in high school and AAU, and as others have mentioned has a college coach for a father. His shot is just fine, he nails them in practice, his confidence in games with his shot and all around offense is just down.
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this isn't highschool where he shot 35% (not that good anyway) in his 3 years. This isn't practice, where 1000's of players, team managers, and coaches hit shots. He is shooting 19%, and he needs adjustments.

Argue with that as you wish. It's expected.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
this isn't highschool where he shot 35% (not that good anyway) in his 3 years. This isn't practice, where 1000's of players, team managers, and coaches hit shots. He is shooting 19%, and he needs adjustments.

Argue with that as you wish. It's expected.
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You were the one jumping in quoting me, and attempting to correct me, but I'm the one starting an argument? Lol

So if I'm understanding correctly bad form effects shots only in college games?

Not AAU games against other players going to college on scholarship, and not in the state tournament where he faces quality teams with multiple D1 players?

But just at the high major level does bad form effect your shot? What's Skylar mcbee's excuse, he had pretty good form?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
You were the one jumping in quoting me, and attempting to correct me, but I'm the one starting an argument? Lol

So if I'm understanding correctly bad form effects shots only in college games?

Not AAU games against other players going to college on scholarship, and not in the state tournament where he faces quality teams with multiple D1 players?

But just at the high major level does bad form effect your shot? What's Skylar mcbee's excuse, he had pretty good form?
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Shooting in highschool isn't the same as in college. Guys are bigger, stronger, faster, and having a consistent release and footwork is the key. Shouldn't have to explain that.
And practice isnt a game. Self explanatory to most as well. Every kid on that team can play ball and hit shots in practice. They could go over to hper, play intramurals, and hit 6-7 threes in a row.
Form doesn't matter as much when you are in the nba and been making shots for a decade. It matters quite a bit when you are 6-31 and haven't proven to be a shooter at this level yet.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
as long as the elbow forms a triangle and there is full follow through, imo. Reggie Miller's elbow is splayed out. Some guys don't keep it tucked in because they can't see the rim with the arm in the way.
Also see some shooters that have it tucked in well, but have the ball go off the outside of the release hand/pinkie (think Jordan Howell's bricks when he was side spinning every shot while going @ 4-30) Elbow out just a tad in prep to shoot pretty much insures a release off the first two fingers. LB was considered to have the purest release, yet look at his elbow setup.
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Bird's is not that bad. You are going to have a little bend as most don't shoot straight up and down. Ray Allen even has a bend. I don't know how to embed a picture but you can find one of Jordy if you google him, and to me, it seems to be a little more pronounced. Again, you don't tweak it as long as he is hitting like this. But if he wanted to tweak it, that would be it. It seems like many of his makes don't swish through and roll around. IMO, that is a sign of some slight side spin. But, just keep hitting them, and I don't care.
 
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VolGee4 said:
Bird's is not that bad. You are going to have a little bend as most don't shoot straight up and down. Ray Allen even has a bend. I don't know how to embed a picture but you can find one of Jordy if you google him, and to me, it seems to be a little more pronounced. Again, you don't tweak it as long as he is hitting like this. But if he wanted to tweak it, that would be it. It seems like many of his makes don't swish through and roll around. IMO, that is a sign of some slight side spin. But, just keep hitting them, and I don't care.
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#72
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if mcrae brings his right arm/elbow in, his line of sight is compromised. Nothing wrong with that position at all.
Here is Lofton. He just had that little lean, which allowed him to get shots off against taller players.

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Spartacavolus said:
if mcrae brings his right arm/elbow in, his line of sight is compromised. Nothing wrong with that position at all.
Here is Lofton. He just had that little lean, which allowed him to get shots off against taller players.

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Just personal preference I guess. I personally don't think line of sight is effected that much, but I don't shoot over my head like they do either. I am a little off to my right, which probably allows my elbow to be a little tighter. Just saying that McRae's is a little more pronounced, and I think it is easy to see. Again, I don't care if he continues to make them.

Edit: Look at Bird's ball position as opposed to Jordy's. I never understood how someone could shoot straight over their head. I certainly can't say that I shoot like Bird, but my position is like his.
 
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#75
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it is a little more pronounced. His arms are also about as long as arms can be too. And in the pic above, he's shooting towards our left a little, where Lofton is shooting over our heads.
I just don't think the elbow needs to be tucked under the ball, a la original old school shooting videos, a la Jimmy Chickwood
 
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