Those calling for an upset in Orgeon

#27
#27
VolFan4Life87 said:
I really can't see how anyone rationalizes an upset against Oregon next year. Aside from Bama, they stand to be our toughest competition next year. They arguably should have been in the national championship against Bama last year, and who knows how that could've turned out. We're coming off of 3 losing seasons and lost the majority of our offensive production.

I definitely can't wait to see how we stack up against these guys now that we have Butch at the helm, and I expect our guys to compete; but I think we have a 10-15% chance of winning this one. Autzen stadium is said to be one of, if not the loudest stadiums out there.
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Finally, a realist
 
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VolFan4Life87 said:
I really can't see how anyone rationalizes an upset against Oregon next year. Aside from Bama, they stand to be our toughest competition next year. They arguably should have been in the national championship against Bama last year, and who knows how that could've turned out. We're coming off of 3 losing seasons and lost the majority of our offensive production.

I definitely can't wait to see how we stack up against these guys now that we have Butch at the helm, and I expect our guys to compete; but I think we have a 10-15% chance of winning this one. Autzen stadium is said to be one of, if not the loudest stadiums out there.
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We're gonna beat Alabama also :D
 
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#32
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BigT_Chief said:
There's always a chance.
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Both run up tempo offenses. Both run plain vanilla 4-3 defenses using a lot of zone to contain the big plays. Jones has successfully been a head coach at two different ascending programs. Helfrich was promoted up from OC to head coach of the Ducks. Oregon runs the same system it has for a number of years. For UT it is a new system, but a type of system that was run partially at UT previously with Chaney as well as many high schools around the country (less sophisticated versions).

Finally, per Rivals the talent on both rosters is exactly even. From 2010-2013 UT ranked #'s 9, 13, 17, 21. Oregon ranked #'s 13, 9, 16, 22. Could not be more alike in talent with any other team in the country if you believe their rankings. The wild card is redshirt seniors. UT ranked #10 in 2009, while Oregon ranked #32. Of these RS seniors there are 4 that will start or otherwise play a lot of snaps in Moore, Walls, Couch and Hood along with a couple guys that could help in Oliver and King. On offense two guys will contribute a lot in Bullard and LS Carr. Oregon shows no RS seniors and only 3 RS juniors on their roster. So it appears the roster experience edge goes to UT.

Playing at home is big for Oregon. But there is nothing to suggest UT will not be able to hold their own. Definitely not going to predict a win at this point since there are too many unknowns, but they sure could make it interesting.
 
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VolFan4Life87 said:
I really can't see how anyone rationalizes an upset against Oregon next year. Aside from Bama, they stand to be our toughest competition next year. They arguably should have been in the national championship against Bama last year, and who knows how that could've turned out. We're coming off of 3 losing seasons and lost the majority of our offensive production.

I definitely can't wait to see how we stack up against these guys now that we have Butch at the helm, and I expect our guys to compete; but I think we have a 10-15% chance of winning this one. Autzen stadium is said to be one of, if not the loudest stadiums out there.
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Butch, please!! Come on!


Sorry that sounded funnier in my head!
 
#35
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Earth to op...they lost their coach. They also lost several of their star Players and play outside the sec. Not saying they won't be good just saying there are some big question marks. Every team (except maybe bama) we face next year is beatable. That's why they play the games!
 
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chattavol420 said:
Earth to op...they lost their coach. They also lost several of their star Players and play outside the sec. Not saying they won't be good just saying there are some big question marks. Every team (except maybe bama) we face next year is beatable. That's why they play the games!
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Obviously there's a chance. There's people on this board talking like we have a better chance of beating them than we do South Carolina or UGA, teams actually almost beat last year. Oregon can and perhaps will score 50+ on a decent UT defense, let alone last year's..
 
#37
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Vols4us said:
Both run up tempo offenses. Both run plain vanilla 4-3 defenses using a lot of zone to contain the big plays. Jones has successfully been a head coach at two different ascending programs. Helfrich was promoted up from OC to head coach of the Ducks. Oregon runs the same system it has for a number of years. For UT it is a new system, but a type of system that was run partially at UT previously with Chaney as well as many high schools around the country (less sophisticated versions).

Finally, per Rivals the talent on both rosters is exactly even. From 2010-2013 UT ranked #'s 9, 13, 17, 21. Oregon ranked #'s 13, 9, 16, 22. Could not be more alike in talent with any other team in the country if you believe their rankings. The wild card is redshirt seniors. UT ranked #10 in 2009, while Oregon ranked #32. Of these RS seniors there are 4 that will start or otherwise play a lot of snaps in Moore, Walls, Couch and Hood along with a couple guys that could help in Oliver and King. On offense two guys will contribute a lot in Bullard and LS Carr. Oregon shows no RS seniors and only 3 RS juniors on their roster. So it appears the roster experience edge goes to UT.

Playing at home is big for Oregon. But there is nothing to suggest UT will not be able to hold their own. Definitely not going to predict a win at this point since there are too many unknowns, but they sure could make it interesting.
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Thanks for the info! That's good stuff
 
#38
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VolFan4Life87 said:
I really can't see how anyone rationalizes an upset against Oregon next year. Aside from Bama, they stand to be our toughest competition next year. They arguably should have been in the national championship against Bama last year, and who knows how that could've turned out. We're coming off of 3 losing seasons and lost the majority of our offensive production.

I definitely can't wait to see how we stack up against these guys now that we have Butch at the helm, and I expect our guys to compete; but I think we have a 10-15% chance of winning this one. Autzen stadium is said to be one of, if not the loudest stadiums out there.
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Now who wants to hear a story about a bridge

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#39
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31-23 Vols

UT will throw for 273 yards.

UT will rush for 184 yards.

Defense forces 3 turnovers.

Defense has 5 sacks.

Palardy does not miss a kick.

Oregon drops 12 spots in the polls following the game.

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#40
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Holy ****,let people have a chance to be happy for a few months.

Million to one chance is better than a million to none,IMO
 
#42
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Vols4us said:
Both run up tempo offenses. Both run plain vanilla 4-3 defenses using a lot of zone to contain the big plays. Jones has successfully been a head coach at two different ascending programs. Helfrich was promoted up from OC to head coach of the Ducks. Oregon runs the same system it has for a number of years. For UT it is a new system, but a type of system that was run partially at UT previously with Chaney as well as many high schools around the country (less sophisticated versions).

Finally, per Rivals the talent on both rosters is exactly even. From 2010-2013 UT ranked #'s 9, 13, 17, 21. Oregon ranked #'s 13, 9, 16, 22. Could not be more alike in talent with any other team in the country if you believe their rankings. The wild card is redshirt seniors. UT ranked #10 in 2009, while Oregon ranked #32. Of these RS seniors there are 4 that will start or otherwise play a lot of snaps in Moore, Walls, Couch and Hood along with a couple guys that could help in Oliver and King. On offense two guys will contribute a lot in Bullard and LS Carr. Oregon shows no RS seniors and only 3 RS juniors on their roster. So it appears the roster experience edge goes to UT.

Playing at home is big for Oregon. But there is nothing to suggest UT will not be able to hold their own. Definitely not going to predict a win at this point since there are too many unknowns, but they sure could make it interesting.
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this is why this thread was started.

there is everything to suggest that tennessee will not be able to hold their own.
 
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#43
#43
Butch will have our guys playing hard, which will keep it close for 2 qtrs, then all hell will break loose in the 2nd half...imo.
 
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I do think it'll be closer than some think, because Butch is pretty much prepping the team FOR this game in practice. Fast paced, loud, non-stop.

We will reciprocate that pace, but Oregon just has more talent and depth.

It's gonna be a loss, but it's a game that has peaked my interest.
 
#45
#45
fade route said:
Butch will have our guys playing hard, which will keep it close for 2 qtrs, then all hell will break loose in the 2nd half...imo.
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I disagree. This is not a Dooley coached team. Butch's teams come. to. play. in the second half. That's backed up.

Still won't be a win, though.
 
#47
#47
LotteryPick said:
I do think it'll be closer than some think, because Butch is pretty much prepping the team FOR this game in practice. Fast paced, loud, non-stop.

We will reciprocate that pace, but Oregon just has more talent and depth.

It's gonna be a loss, but it's a game that has peaked my interest.
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Depth? Maybe as I am not sure who stayed/left out of their recent classes.

Talent, I think is very even. If you look at the last 4 recruiting classes, they are about dead even between UT and OR.
 
#48
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Depth? Maybe as I am not sure who stayed/left out of their recent classes.

Talent, I think is very even. If you look at the last 4 recruiting classes, they are about dead even between UT and OR.
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We don't have a Mariota, a Black Mamba, or a Colt Lyerla type player. That's going to be a tough trio to stop for this team.
 
#49
#49
Vols4us said:
Both run up tempo offenses. Both run plain vanilla 4-3 defenses using a lot of zone to contain the big plays. Jones has successfully been a head coach at two different ascending programs. Helfrich was promoted up from OC to head coach of the Ducks. Oregon runs the same system it has for a number of years. For UT it is a new system, but a type of system that was run partially at UT previously with Chaney as well as many high schools around the country (less sophisticated versions).

Finally, per Rivals the talent on both rosters is exactly even. From 2010-2013 UT ranked #'s 9, 13, 17, 21. Oregon ranked #'s 13, 9, 16, 22. Could not be more alike in talent with any other team in the country if you believe their rankings. The wild card is redshirt seniors. UT ranked #10 in 2009, while Oregon ranked #32. Of these RS seniors there are 4 that will start or otherwise play a lot of snaps in Moore, Walls, Couch and Hood along with a couple guys that could help in Oliver and King. On offense two guys will contribute a lot in Bullard and LS Carr. Oregon shows no RS seniors and only 3 RS juniors on their roster. So it appears the roster experience edge goes to UT.

Playing at home is big for Oregon. But there is nothing to suggest UT will not be able to hold their own. Definitely not going to predict a win at this point since there are too many unknowns, but they sure could make it interesting.
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Wow, so each team averages exactly 15th according to Rivals. Also, Oregon ranked 45th against the run last year giving up 144.92 yds/gm with an average given up per carry right over 4 yds. Tennessee averaged 4.7 yards per carry last year in the SEC.

It also looks like the Ducks lost starters at DT, DE, 2 LBs, and a S, though I didn't look too far into it. We all know our offensive line is a strength and we will hopefully be starting the same tailbacks.

It's definitely an uphill battle but it looks like we have a shot if we can run it down their throats and keep their offense off the field. Do you think Jones would attempt to try a ball control approach or will he start out full-paced up-tempo?
 
#50
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We're gonna lose. By a lot of points. And it won't be the only game like that this year.

Hang your hats on recruiting victories, folks. It's all we have to look forward to for a few years.
 
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