Thoughts on J. Stokes talking football..

[omghulkhands]

The facts are as follows:

1) You don't know that he is too soft to play because he hasn't yet. If he comes out gets pegged and fumbles the first time, I am pretty sure CBJ won't have much faith.

2) You don't know that he can cut it either..

3) He may or may not play and bickering like children changes nothing.

The difference is that I never said that he can actually play football and certainly never suggested that he would be any good. I was arguing the grounds in which he based his opinion and felt the need to criticize others based on said unsupported opinions

 

[TylerD]

The difference is that I never said that he can actually play football and certainly never suggested that he would be any good. I was arguing the grounds in which he based his opinion and felt the need to criticize others based on said unsupported opinions

:good!:

 

[Give_All_Vol]

:good!:

How did you get a smiley of your own avatar??

 

[TylerD]

How did you get a smiley of your own avatar??

haha It was pretty perfect. Just happened to change it after almost 4 years.

 

[Bluetic]

Stokes jepordizing an NBA 2nd or 3rd round pick status in order to get his knees capped by some cheap Auburn blocking scheme? Not happening...wave bye-bye to Stokes fellas.

 

[Skullbone]

If I were Coach Jones I would allow anybody on the basketball team to walk on as a special teams kick blocker.

 

[JackHVFL]

Stokes jepordizing an NBA 2nd or 3rd round pick status in order to get his knees capped by some cheap Auburn blocking scheme? Not happening...wave bye-bye to Stokes fellas.

Only two rounds

Only first rounders get guaranteed roster spot and cash... Stokes may decide to stay in order to possible get into the first round

 

[bUTchLookin4Dimez]

Stokes jepordizing an NBA 2nd or 3rd round pick status in order to get his knees capped by some cheap Auburn blocking scheme? Not happening...wave bye-bye to Stokes fellas.

He wouldn't be playing Auburn so there goes that.

 

[oregonvol]

It is utterly depressing how dismal the reading comprehension has become. I don’t know which is worse, that or the wild claims made without any evidence or citation.

Case in point, Zoso0789 posts this crazy claim:

Most successful TE's in the NFL first played TE in the NFL after playing college basketball. And not many (incredibly few, arguably) were/are as naturally athletic as Stokes. I have no idea why some of ya'll are saying the thought of it is ridiculous.

Let’s read that again. He is claiming that the majority of successful NFL tight ends first played tight end at the NFL level after playing only basketball in college. Naturally, I had to question this statement (which was presented, without citation, as a known fact).

What? Most? Name 10 of them.

Naturally (because this is what VN has become), I get this reply:

I will speak for him. Certainly while not "most", but here is a list just off the top of my head.

Antonio Gates
T.Gonz
Jimmy Graham
Julius Thomas
Jordan Cameron (sort of)

Jimmy Graham played football his last season in college. So did Julius Thomas. Jordan Cameron played football for multiple years in college. Tony Gonzalez played football his entire college career.

So the only example that applies to the original point is Antonio Gates (who played football in high school and was recruited to college by Nick Saban as a football player). That’s hardly most of the successful TEs in the NFL. That’s one guy.

Also, Martelleus Bennett is another TE. A couple of other big name, non-TE who played college BB: Julius Peppers, Vincent Jackson, T.O., McNabb. It does seem that PFs make the best TEs.

Oh cool, more examples of guys who played football throughout their college careers and have nothing to do with the original point. Thanks!

 

[oregonvol]

Stokes jepordizing an NBA 2nd or 3rd round pick status in order to get his knees capped by some cheap Auburn blocking scheme? Not happening...wave bye-bye to Stokes fellas.

There is no 3rd round in the NBA draft (and many would argue the 2nd round is almost equally as irrelevant).

 

[omghulkhands]

It is utterly depressing how dismal the reading comprehension has become. I don’t know which is worse, that or the wild claims made without any evidence or citation.

Case in point, Zoso0789 posts this crazy claim:



Let’s read that again. He is claiming that the majority of successful NFL tight ends first played tight end at the NFL level after playing only basketball in college. Naturally, I had to question this statement (which was presented, without citation, as a known fact).



Naturally (because this is what VN has become), I get this reply:



Jimmy Graham played football his last season in college. So did Julius Thomas. Jordan Cameron played football for multiple years in college. Tony Gonzalez played football his entire college career.

So the only example that applies to the original point is Antonio Gates (who played football in high school and was recruited to college by Nick Saban as a football player). That’s hardly most of the successful TEs in the NFL. That’s one guy.



Oh cool, more examples of guys who played football throughout their college careers and have nothing to do with the original point. Thanks!

The track of the discussion taking place when I got involved was that Stokes couldn't play in the SEC and I wanted to give examples of players that had made the transition and were successful in the NFL.

I wasn't implying that literally most successful NFL TE's played college basketball without any college football experience and then jumped to the NFL. I doubt the op was either and I just assumed he used some awkward wording there. I took it as "first" as in before trying to play in the NBA.