Three years and counting

[Lexvol]

Regardless of how you felt about Casey Clausen he was a servicable QB and a team leader. How long has it been since UT has waited three years for a starting QB to emerge? This speaks volumes about recent recruiting. Ainge better get his butt in gear.

Again, this marks the third year that UT is going into the fall with QB issues. In the last 8 years UT has missed opportunities with Brohm, Simms and Leake.

 

[checkerboard_charly]

I cant stand Casey, but damn i miss him for some reason. He at least was solid. Good thread Lex.

 

[utvolpj]

But Ainge and Schaeffer were can't miss guys when recruited. I don't think anyone thought 3 years later that neither one of them had produced much yet.

Casey was a slow, ugly white guy but he could play football. I never thought he ever held back on the field.

 

[hatvol96]

Regardless of how you felt about Casey Clausen he was a servicable QB and a team leader. How long has it been since UT has waited three years for a starting QB to emerge? This speaks volumes about recent recruiting. Ainge better get his butt in gear.

Again, this marks the third year that UT is going into the fall with QB issues. In the last 8 years UT has missed opportunities with Brohm, Simms and Leake.

You could also add Kyle Wright to that list. While he hasn't set the world aflame at the "U", I would certainly love to have him in Knoxville right now.

 

[mattvols]

i know most of the players hated casey and he didnt have all the skills but he was at least solid, something i miss. I think the preception on him was so bad because he came after Mannning, Shueler, and Martin all in a row. He was one of the winningest QBs in a SEC history so he obviously was doing something right.

 

[General Jack]

Take it from somebody living in Austin for the past 5 years. We would not have been happy with Simms, he was a spoon-fed fairy and choke artist.

 

[hatvol96]

Take it from somebody living in Austin for the past 5 years. We would not have been happy with Simms, he was a spoon-fed fairy and choke artist.

How many games did Simms lose as a starter? He simply couldn't beat OU. We, as Tennessee fans, certainly can't fault a QB for the inability to beat our main rival.

 

[kptvol]

How many games did Simms lose as a starter? He simply couldn't beat OU. We, as Tennessee fans, certainly can't fault a QB for the inability to beat our main rival.

Clearly you are referring to Casey Clausen's inability to defeat Georgia.

 

[utvolpj]

How many games did Simms lose as a starter? He simply couldn't beat OU. We, as Tennessee fans, certainly can't fault a QB for the inability to beat our main rival.

No, but the QB you referenced didn't have to wait for his (some say inferior) competition to leave before he played, he beat them out.

 

[hatvol96]

Clearly you are referring to Casey Clausen's inability to defeat Georgia.

No, I was referencing Jeff Francis' inability to beat Alabama.

 

[hatvol96]

No, but the QB you referenced didn't have to wait for his (some say inferior) competition to leave before he played, he beat them out.

He beat Applewhite out. Simms was the starter for almost every game during his career.

 

[utvolpj]

He beat Applewhite out. Simms was the starter for almost every game during his career.

If I remember correctly (I may not) but didn't Applewhite pull a couple of "RClausen at LSU" out during his last season. I feel the position was given the CS on alum pressure, but that's just my opinion. My family in Dallas said the fans were crying for Simms very loudly.

Edit: He only started 32 games, that's fewer games than Casey had wins.

 

[hatvol96]

If I remember correctly (I may not) but didn't Applewhite pull a couple of "RClausen at LSU" out during his last season. I feel the position was given the CS on alum pressure, but that's just my opinion. My family in Dallas said the fans were crying for Simms very loudly.

I think that's an accurate assessment. Personally, I thought Sims was a good college QB. He simply couldn't get his team past OU.

 

[kptvol]

If I remember correctly (I may not) but didn't Applewhite pull a couple of "RClausen at LSU" out during his last season. I feel the position was given the CS on alum pressure, but that's just my opinion. My family in Dallas said the fans were crying for Simms very loudly.

Edit: He only started 32 games, that's fewer games than Casey had wins.

Applewhite came in and won his last bowl game, after they were down by a large margin with Simms at the helm. It was an impressive performance. I forget who they were playing.

 

[hatvol96]

If I remember correctly (I may not) but didn't Applewhite pull a couple of "RClausen at LSU" out during his last season. I feel the position was given the CS on alum pressure, but that's just my opinion. My family in Dallas said the fans were crying for Simms very loudly.

Edit: He only started 32 games, that's fewer games than Casey had wins.

You're preaching to the choir with me about Casey Clausen. I do think Major Applewhite was a better QB than Brandon Stewart.

 

[hatvol96]

Applewhite came in and won his last bowl game, after they were down by a large margin with Simms at the helm. It was an impressive performance. I forget who they were playing.

Washington, maybe?

 

[utvolpj]

You're preaching to the choir with me about Casey Clausen. I do think Major Applewhite was a better QB than Brandon Stewart.

Oh I'd agree there but PM was better than CS too.

 

[utvolpj]

Applewhite came in and won his last bowl game, after they were down by a large margin with Simms at the helm. It was an impressive performance. I forget who they were playing.

Thanks for making me feel better. I was pretty sure I remembered that happening but Saturdays usually involve a few cocktails so I'm never sure.

 

[hvwarrior58]

You are correct hat. It was Washington.

 

[hatvol96]

Oh I'd agree there but PM was better than CS too.

No debate from me on that point.

 

[WA_Vol]

IMO Casey Clausen didn't have to footspeed or the arm strength to be a great QB. He couldn't throw it 70 yds downfield or run for 10 yds if no one was open that I ever saw.

IMO, he played as well as anyone with the game on the line and kept UT in a lot of games by keeping a cool head. I never felt UT lost because Clausen couldn't get the WR's the ball. If they had separation he got them the ball. In that respect he was very good. He did as much as he could with the physical tools he had.

 

[hatvol96]

IMO Casey Clausen didn't have to footspeed or the arm strength to be a great QB. He couldn't throw it 70 yds downfield or run for 10 yds if no one was open that I ever saw.

IMO, he played as well as anyone with the game on the line and kept UT in a lot of games by keeping a cool head. I never felt UT lost because Clausen couldn't get the WR's the ball. If they had separation he got them the ball. In that respect he was very good. He did as much as he could with the physical tools he had.

I think that is a very good synopsis of Casey Clausen as a player.

 

[Jasongivm6]

If I remember correctly (I may not) but didn't Applewhite pull a couple of "RClausen at LSU" out during his last season. I feel the position was given the CS on alum pressure, but that's just my opinion. My family in Dallas said the fans were crying for Simms very loudly.

Edit: He only started 32 games, that's fewer games than Casey had wins.

Major Applewhite owns many of the Texas QB records. He would probably have more if he started his whole career.

Major Applewhite

 

[General Jack]

How many games did Simms lose as a starter? He simply couldn't beat OU. We, as Tennessee fans, certainly can't fault a QB for the inability to beat our main rival.

...or win a bowl game or Big 12 title game ('01). He basically found a way through INTs or other boneheaded plays to lose almost every big game he played in - despite the fact Texas usually had as much or more talent than the opponent.

Most Texas fans can't stand the guy, worked out well for me as I can have the last laugh after we were jilted.

 

[hatvol96]

...or win a bowl game or Big 12 title game ('01). He basically found a way through INTs or other boneheaded plays to lose almost every big game he played in - despite the fact Texas usually had as much or more talent than the opponent.

Most Texas fans can't stand the guy, worked out well for me as I can have the last laugh after we were jilted.

That's one of the great fallacies of college football this decade. The reason OU beat Texas five straight times was simple. They were markedly better than the puke orange.