'26 TN ATH Shavar Young (Clemson Commit)

No, this has nothing to do with feelings. As I have repeatedly asserted, I would also be critical of a recruit who acted similarly while announcing Tennessee as his choice.

We will just have to agree to disagree on that. I think it is a disrespectful way to conduct oneself.
Well you had your chance in the Ross thread and said nothing.

🤣 Don’t act like this is you standing on principle. It’s reactionary homer stuff. Kid does a shirt switch and it’s a conspiracy against Tennessee… honestly 😂
 
Well you had your chance in the Ross thread and said nothing.

🤣 Don’t act like this is you standing on principle. It’s reactionary homer stuff. Kid does a shirt switch and it’s a conspiracy against Tennessee… honestly 😂
No, it's not. I didn't see what Jordan Ross did .... but if it was the "fake out" act? Then yes, that stunt is just as tired and ridiculous for a Tennessee commitment, as it is for anyone else.

It is not a big deal or a reflection of anyone's character or upbringing. It is, at least in my opinion, immature and disrespectful. I never mentioned the word "conspiracy." I did say that it was at least possible that someone affiliated with Clemson encouraged this. Does that mean that someone really did? Of course not. The timing with Faizon Brandon's announcement could have just been a coincidence ....
 
I mean… not like that’s the worst thing in the world. If you don’t buy into the crap Dabo tries to push, you realize you have other options.
I hope we can flip him ..... but if not? Good luck to him, anyway.

.... but I do still feel like that fake out routine has been overdone and it has always been stupid.
 
No, it's not. I didn't see what Jordan Ross did .... but if it was the "fake out" act? Then yes, that stunt is just as tired and ridiculous for a Tennessee commitment, as it is for anyone else.

It is not a big deal or a reflection of anyone's character or upbringing. It is, at least in my opinion, immature and disrespectful. I never mentioned the word "conspiracy." I did say that it was at least possible that someone affiliated with Clemson encouraged this. Does that mean that someone really did? Of course not. The timing with Faizon Brandon's announcement could have just been a coincidence ....
You're right, conspiracy implies that something illegal was gong on.

You're saying it could have been a "plot".

Careful foresight in planning a complex scheme to throw shade at UT the day before Fazion Brandon commits in order to take away from UT's moment of landing the top player in 2026.

Yup, that's a plot.
 
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You're right, conspiracy implies that something illegal was gong on.

You're saying it could have been a "plot".

Careful foresight in planning a complex scheme to throw shade at UT the day before Fazion Brandon commits in order to take away from UT's moment of landing the top player in 2026.

Yup, that's a plot.
There you have it, folks. It was a plot.

.... and Clemson's fan base really is resentful of how well Tennessee is recruiting North Carolina at the moment (relatively speaking). They consider that to be their "backyard" now. They couldn't believe that Sanders didn't put them in his top 4.
 
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There you have it, folks. It was a plot.

.... and Clemson's fan base really is resentful of how well Tennessee is recruiting North Carolina at the moment (relatively speaking). They consider that to be their "backyard" now. They couldn't believe that Sanders didn't put them in his top 4.

No
 
"There you have it, somebody thought of another word for this story I made up." 🤣

If these guys had been around a football program for an hour, they’d know that no one involved is "plotting" shirt switches that only the softest opposing fan would take issue with. They are about their business, and if anyone has this pre-teen girl mentality of "hat switches are disrespectful" or "we have to steal this recruit’s shine" they would rightly be sent to manage equipment for the women’s racquetball team.
 
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I hope we can flip him ..... but if not? Good luck to him, anyway.

.... but I do still feel like that fake out routine has been overdone and it has always been stupid.
I agree that it has been overdone. It just makes no sense to risk insulting your second choice. Ask Cade Mays. Yes he did finally get to UT, but I bet he ate a little crow after his behavior during the UGA selection ceremony. Why risk it? When I get 2 job offers. I try to let the second choice know how much I appreciated their time and that it was a hard choice. Ya never know.........
 
I agree that it has been overdone. It just makes no sense to risk insulting your second choice. Ask Cade Mays. Yes he did finally get to UT, but I bet he ate a little crow after his behavior during the UGA selection ceremony. Why risk it? When I get 2 job offers. I try to let the second choice know how much I appreciated their time and that it was a hard choice. Ya never know.........
You act like his commitment video was the only communication with the other staffs. They’ll have already spoken with him on the phone. The video isn’t informing anybody important of the decision. It’s just glitter for the fans.
 
I agree that it has been overdone. It just makes no sense to risk insulting your second choice. Ask Cade Mays. Yes he did finally get to UT, but I bet he ate a little crow after his behavior during the UGA selection ceremony. Why risk it? When I get 2 job offers. I try to let the second choice know how much I appreciated their time and that it was a hard choice. Ya never know.........
I agree.

I would always be appreciative of the interest shown in my skills, and of the resources invested by the people who were recruiting me.
 
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"There you have it, somebody thought of another word for this story I made up." 🤣

If these guys had been around a football program for an hour, they’d know that no one involved is "plotting" shirt switches that only the softest opposing fan would take issue with. They are about their business, and if anyone has this pre-teen girl mentality of "hat switches are disrespectful" or "we have to steal this recruit’s shine" they would rightly be sent to manage equipment for the women’s racquetball team.
That is ridiculous.

Once again, I did not say that any member of the Clemson staff would have encouraged Young to pull the fake out stunt. I said "someone affiliated with Clemson." That could be a number of people, who are not directly employed by the university itself.

It is not a "pre-teen girl mentality" to be critical of someone for behaving in such a manner. I believe that it is immature and disrespectful. If you feel differently? Fine. I won't make juvenile references to your being feminine. LOL.

We can agree to disagree.
 
You act like his commitment video was the only communication with the other staffs. They’ll have already spoken with him on the phone. The video isn’t informing anybody important of the decision. It’s just glitter for the fans.
No .... He acts like Young made a public display of flippantly rejecting Tennessee .... and he did. It wasn't necessary.

.... but once again, I will underscore that I don't consider it to be important. It's not a poor reflection of either Young's character or of Young's upbringing. There was simply a better way to handle his announcement.

.... and I still hope he changes his mind, and comes to Tennessee. He probably is a fine young man. I did things on a daily basis in high school that I regret, which were much worse than this.
 
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No .... He acts like Young made a public display of flippantly rejecting Tennessee .... and he did. It wasn't necessary.

.... but once again, I will underscore that I don't consider it to be important. It's not a poor reflection of either Young's character or of Young's upbringing. There was simply a better way to handle his announcement.

.... and I still hope he changes his mind, and comes to Tennessee. He probably is a fine young man. I did things on a daily basis in high school that I regret, which were much worse than this.
What??? He made a commitment video. Like every other recruit. 🤣

Noted that you found it disrespectful. Also noted that you never spoke up when a Tennessee commit did it.

Reiterating that finding disrespect in a child’s stunt is baby poop soft. Wasn’t trying to veil that in any way.
 
What??? He made a commitment video. Like every other recruit. 🤣

Noted that you found it disrespectful. Also noted that you never spoke up when a Tennessee commit did it.

Reiterating that finding disrespect in a child’s stunt is baby poop soft. Wasn’t trying to veil that in any way.
A 16 year old is an adolescent ... not a child.

Not every recruit handles their commitment in the manner that Young did.

I have repeatedly said that there have been occasions when a Tennessee commitment has done the same thing .... and it was just as wrong. I hate the "fake out" routine, regardless of who is doing it. It is old, tired and stupid. This is not a partisan complaint.
 
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This is like saying Toyota plotted to announce a new Camry the day before Lamborghini planned to announce a new Revuelto.

Camrys are great. Solid vehicles. But c’mon, guy. These recruits are worlds apart. In no reality would anyone think the Camry could compete with the Revuelto in terms of the significance of their announcements, including Toyota.
 
This is like saying Toyota plotted to announce a new Camry the day before Lamborghini planned to announce a new Revuelto.

Camrys are great. Solid vehicles. But c’mon, guy. These recruits are worlds apart. In no reality would anyone think the Camry could compete with the Revuelto in terms of the significance of their announcements, including Toyota.
That is a good point.
 
You’re in your feelings too much if you think it was disrespectful imo. Taking a hat and shirt off to reveal a different team is not disrespectful in any way
I mean if my wife had Bama underwear on it would be grounds for a divorce.

I don’t really feel like I’m overreacting…
 
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This is like saying Toyota plotted to announce a new Camry the day before Lamborghini planned to announce a new Revuelto.

Camrys are great. Solid vehicles. But c’mon, guy. These recruits are worlds apart. In no reality would anyone think the Camry could compete with the Revuelto in terms of the significance of their announcements, including Toyota.
I like this analogy. Makes me feel better about this miss knowing he's just player version of the 07 beater I drive to work every day.

Now bring on the Lambos!!!
 

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