'24 TN CB Jaren Sensabaugh

Love it when people bring up exceptions to try and prove the rule šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚
If there we no exceptions, there would be no argument. But, there are multiple exceptions in every single class. None of us know if this kid will be one or not. Also, none of us have millions of dollars at stake when making that evaluation.
 
I'm not worried about Mizzou, this kid can he help beat a school like that sure, but he's not getting us closer to Bama, UGA etc.
I live in the area this kid is from, athletes from here are lacking to put it kindly.
Stupid final statement. Just because youā€™re from the same area as this recruit, and you and the people you know lack ability and heart, donā€™t project that on this recruit.
 
Now, but he's originally from Kingsport.
He jumped to Knox Catholic then to Ensworth because of his dad causing problems.
Yeah Witten is from Elizabethton and he sucked because heā€™s from Elizabethton. DB has consistently put out D1 players and every 5 years or so an nfl player.
 
If there we no exceptions, there would be no argument. But, there are multiple exceptions in every single class. None of us know if this kid will be one or not. Also, none of us have millions of dollars at stake when making that evaluation.
I agree with you that none of us really know and thatā€™s sort of my point. Could he be another Sauce Gardner? Yes. But I think you would even admit that the chances of that are slim. I mean if we are being honest, out of Cai Bates and this guy, who would you put money on to be the better player? The odds would heavily favor Bates. Would you not agree?

Now as I have said maybe, if he decides to come here, he balls out. In which case thatā€™s great. But we are a little limited in our scholarship spots. I know only 2 less but still. I mean donā€™t you think this guy is just a pure fall back option because we missed on some better targets? Oils we have even offered if we would have gotten Bates?

Whatā€™s wrong with thinking we should be able to not only want but expect to get better players than this? I mean maybe he comes here and offers good depth? I donā€™t know. But I donā€™t think just because Willie Martinez likes him we should just be like ā€œoh well that means he is good.ā€ I just donā€™t get why wanting and expecting TN to get great players is wrong. We have a really, really good class. I just think we should be able to do better. If not in the HS tanks then use his spot for a portal CB.
 
Now, but he's originally from Kingsport.
He jumped to Knox Catholic then to Ensworth because of his dad causing problems.
So since he lived in Kingsport for a little while, he probably sucks? Seems legit.

Watch this kid become the best corner weā€™ve had since Sutton. Some people excel when others doubt them. Hope this kid is one of them because he isnā€™t lacking haters
 
Itā€™s almost like there is no rule either way.
It comes down to coaching. Specifically, player evaluations. A 3-star with SEC offers is probably better than a 3-star with no SEC offers because the people doing the evaluations are better at it. Thatā€™s why theyā€™re coaching in the SEC. Some people see a 3-star and they automatically think the kid is a G5 talent. Thatā€™s over simplifying things. Better to look at who has offered and what their track record is. And donā€™t get hung up on the fact they UGA and Bama havenā€™t offered. Why would they pass on a 5-star or high 4-star to pursue a lesser known talent? Too risky.

If I didnā€™t have anything better to do Iā€™d dig up a list of every player Martinez and Banks have put in the NFL. I get the feeling some here might be surprised but maybe Iā€™m wrong. Maybe they suck at identifying talent. Weā€™ll see next year because we need their recruits to step up big time.
 
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I am nor qualified to comment on his abilities other than his highlights look good.

But this has to be one of best interviews I've witnessed. We'll spoken young man that reacts easily and effectively to any questions gotta believe thus translates to communicating coverages on the football field. I bet he's a quick learner. Hope we sign him.
 
I agree with you that none of us really know and thatā€™s sort of my point. Could he be another Sauce Gardner? Yes. But I think you would even admit that the chances of that are slim. I mean if we are being honest, out of Cai Bates and this guy, who would you put money on to be the better player? The odds would heavily favor Bates. Would you not agree?

Now as I have said maybe, if he decides to come here, he balls out. In which case thatā€™s great. But we are a little limited in our scholarship spots. I know only 2 less but still. I mean donā€™t you think this guy is just a pure fall back option because we missed on some better targets? Oils we have even offered if we would have gotten Bates?

Whatā€™s wrong with thinking we should be able to not only want but expect to get better players than this? I mean maybe he comes here and offers good depth? I donā€™t know. But I donā€™t think just because Willie Martinez likes him we should just be like ā€œoh well that means he is good.ā€ I just donā€™t get why wanting and expecting TN to get great players is wrong. We have a really, really good class. I just think we should be able to do better. If not in the HS tanks then use his spot for a portal CB.
I will agree that the rule is more likely than the exception, but he's also not some scrub that only has offers from FCS and group of 5 schools either. I'm glad that my livelihood isn't dependent on 18-23 yr old kids.
 
He was talking about the level of competition he was playing against. Try to keep up.
Except he played at Ensworth. Thatā€™s a powerhouse school in Nashville that plays against top notch competition. Not to mention the competition heā€™d have in practice.
 
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There is a rule whether or not you want to believe it. Why canā€™t you see it?
Because it doesnā€™t exist. ā€œBlack and whiteā€ is just an easier way to think. A lazy way to think. Nuance is hard, so itā€™s often avoided.

Coaches donā€™t evaluate a player based on where he is ranked by 247. I know, crazy notion. They also arenā€™t playing a game of odds, where they hope a certain % of players pan out based on how often those rated at a certain level typically pan out. Theyā€™re evaluating each player individually. They donā€™t give a damn what heā€™s rated by website nerds who make $40,000/year to get clicks.

You, unlike these coaches, donā€™t have the ability to evaluate. Thatā€™s why youā€™re spouting idiocy on a message board instead of getting paid millions to evaluate. So, instead of admitting that you canā€™t evaluate a Cornerbackā€™s skills (which is the truth), you pretend to know more than highly paid coaches while claiming that there are ā€œrulesā€ pertaining to rankings and an individual playerā€™s abilities, in spite of the obvious fact that there arenā€™t, as evidenced by the myriad examples to the contrary. Just imagine how easy it would be to evaluate if your method was accurate:

ā€œWell, Coach Heupel, who we offering?ā€
ā€œPull up those 247 rankings, start at the top and work our way down boys! This is easy! Just ask BOT!ā€
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Of course, it occurs to me that you may not actually know what a rule is. And that tracks.
 
Because it doesnā€™t exist. ā€œBlack and whiteā€ is just an easier way to think. A lazy way to think. Nuance is hard, so itā€™s often avoided.

Coaches donā€™t evaluate a player based on where he is ranked by 247. I know, crazy notion. They also arenā€™t playing a game of odds, where they hope a certain % of players pan out based on how often those rated at a certain level typically pan out. Theyā€™re evaluating each player individually. They donā€™t give a damn what heā€™s rated by website nerds who make $40,000/year to get clicks.

You, unlike these coaches, donā€™t have the ability to evaluate. Thatā€™s why youā€™re spouting idiocy on a message board instead of getting paid millions to evaluate. So, instead of admitting that you canā€™t evaluate a Cornerbackā€™s skills (which is the truth), you pretend to know more than highly paid coaches while claiming that there are ā€œrulesā€ pertaining to rankings and an individual playerā€™s abilities, in spite of the obvious fact that there arenā€™t, as evidenced by the myriad examples to the contrary. Just imagine how easy it would be to evaluate if your method was accurate:

ā€œWell, Coach Heupel, who we offering?ā€
ā€œPull up those 247 rankings, start at the top and work our way down boys! This is easy! Just ask BOT!ā€
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Of course, it occurs to me that you may not actually know what a rule is. And that tracks.
While most of what you're saying is true.
BOT is correct in assuming we're going after this kid because we've missed on so many.

Chances are this kid will have an impact.
Gerald Sensnbaugh was also a 2 star and he made it to NFL out of ETSU then North Carolina. Coty Sensnbaugh was another late addition to Clemson's class and ended up winning a starting spot at CB over 2 Five Stars, and then also made it to the NFL. So he comes from a family of successful NFL pedigree.

No BOT can't evaluate at all, but he's right about the correlation.
 
Because it doesnā€™t exist. ā€œBlack and whiteā€ is just an easier way to think. A lazy way to think. Nuance is hard, so itā€™s often avoided.

Coaches donā€™t evaluate a player based on where he is ranked by 247. I know, crazy notion. They also arenā€™t playing a game of odds, where they hope a certain % of players pan out based on how often those rated at a certain level typically pan out. Theyā€™re evaluating each player individually. They donā€™t give a damn what heā€™s rated by website nerds who make $40,000/year to get clicks.

You, unlike these coaches, donā€™t have the ability to evaluate. Thatā€™s why youā€™re spouting idiocy on a message board instead of getting paid millions to evaluate. So, instead of admitting that you canā€™t evaluate a Cornerbackā€™s skills (which is the truth), you pretend to know more than highly paid coaches while claiming that there are ā€œrulesā€ pertaining to rankings and an individual playerā€™s abilities, in spite of the obvious fact that there arenā€™t, as evidenced by the myriad examples to the contrary. Just imagine how easy it would be to evaluate if your method was accurate:

ā€œWell, Coach Heupel, who we offering?ā€
ā€œPull up those 247 rankings, start at the top and work our way down boys! This is easy! Just ask BOT!ā€
šŸ˜‚

Of course, it occurs to me that you may not actually know what a rule is. And that tracks.
We are looking at W/L. This has been a tough year. ... and so on, etc.
 
Interesting family.
Funny thing is about his father, he wouldn't have even transferred from ETSU to North Carolina has they not disband their Football team.
Does he even make it to the NFL if that didn't happen???

He went to the NFL after one good year at UNC, and the was a starter most of the time he was there.

Upper East Tennessee always has a handful of unheralded athletes that can play almost anywhere .
 
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Because it doesnā€™t exist. ā€œBlack and whiteā€ is just an easier way to think. A lazy way to think. Nuance is hard, so itā€™s often avoided.

Coaches donā€™t evaluate a player based on where he is ranked by 247. I know, crazy notion. They also arenā€™t playing a game of odds, where they hope a certain % of players pan out based on how often those rated at a certain level typically pan out. Theyā€™re evaluating each player individually. They donā€™t give a damn what heā€™s rated by website nerds who make $40,000/year to get clicks.

You, unlike these coaches, donā€™t have the ability to evaluate. Thatā€™s why youā€™re spouting idiocy on a message board instead of getting paid millions to evaluate. So, instead of admitting that you canā€™t evaluate a Cornerbackā€™s skills (which is the truth), you pretend to know more than highly paid coaches while claiming that there are ā€œrulesā€ pertaining to rankings and an individual playerā€™s abilities, in spite of the obvious fact that there arenā€™t, as evidenced by the myriad examples to the contrary. Just imagine how easy it would be to evaluate if your method was accurate:

ā€œWell, Coach Heupel, who we offering?ā€
ā€œPull up those 247 rankings, start at the top and work our way down boys! This is easy! Just ask BOT!ā€
šŸ˜‚

Of course, it occurs to me that you may not actually know what a rule is. And that tracks.
This is a great point. So thereā€™s two things at play. The top teams have recruited top classes year after year. So either they get the highly ranked guys, or the services slant rankings once they commit to said schools. We know this to be somewhat true. Do the schools develop them better or just recruit at a higher level.?

If we are recruiting at a decent level with subpar resultsā€¦ then itā€™s the coaching/ development. If we are having better results with less highly ranked classes/ players we have great coaching/ development. Iā€™d say we are doing well at both so far with Heupel. But next year will show us how much development they are doing. This past year wasnā€™t a huge confidence builder but we also may end up winning 9. Iā€™ll take that as a bad year all day, donā€™t get me wrong. But we lost to 2 teams, Florida and mizzouā€¦ that id argue we should been able to scheme/ out coach and win. We didnā€™t.
 
This is a great point. So thereā€™s two things at play. The top teams have recruited top classes year after year. So either they get the highly ranked guys, or the services slant rankings once they commit to said schools. We know this to be somewhat true. Do the schools develop them better or just recruit at a higher level.?

If we are recruiting at a decent level with subpar resultsā€¦ then itā€™s the coaching/ development. If we are having better results with less highly ranked classes/ players we have great coaching/ development. Iā€™d say we are doing well at both so far with Heupel. But next year will show us how much development they are doing. This past year wasnā€™t a huge confidence builder but we also may end up winning 9. Iā€™ll take that as a bad year all day, donā€™t get me wrong. But we lost to 2 teams, Florida and mizzouā€¦ that id argue we should been able to scheme/ out coach and win. We didnā€™t.
Well Florida at least. Mo. Looked like a very good team.
 
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