'25 TN DB Jaylan Morgan (Georgia commit)

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jvols1999 said:
That's the one position where WM's evals - especially in the states of GA and TN - have been way different than each other. I'd be tempted to say I would trust Kirby but a) He has had a lot of turnover at the DB coach position, and b) he hasn't exactly beaten out bigtime programs for a lot of these TN DBs
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Agree but in general they get high level production from the position, I don’t think that’s really debatable. So I’m def curious when he takes a kid we don’t even pursue.

Could be something non-football related, idk. Def don’t wanna speculate about that stuff because I hate when folks do that here simply because a kid goes elsewhere.
 
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benholt06 said:
I wouldn’t characterize it that way considering we didn’t really pursue.

I’d be interested to know the reasoning behind why we didn’t. I’m not gonna say I trust WM’s evals over Kirby’s at this time. But we’re recruiting DBs with certain traits and maybe he didn’t fit those. We’ll see what the kid does there.
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It’s been said the staff likes guys in the secondary that can play all 5 positions. Maybe they only see him as a S
 
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MarcoVol said:
It’s been said the staff likes guys in the secondary that can play all 5 positions. Maybe they only see him as a S
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That’s valid because to me he projects as a high safety without much positional versatility.

But I also think we should focus on developing guys to play one position well first.

Pruitt holdovers are about all gone now. I expect to see continued improvement, which I think we did last year but it was sometimes mitigated by not being able to get off the field.
 
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benholt06 said:
That’s valid because to me he projects as a high safety without much positional versatility.

But I also think we should focus on developing guys to play one position well first.

Pruitt holdovers are about all gone now. I expect to see continued improvement, which I think we did last year but it was sometimes mitigated by not being able to get off the field.
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Also makes sense with the guys they have committed in secondary this class. They seek versatility and fit.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
How’s it a miss if the staff didn’t pursue him?
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I understand that’s confusing to people.

But the fact that they DIDNT makes it a miss.

Georgia obviously thought he was good enough.
And if you watch his film you can see why…

I answered your whole question in every possible way with everything I said.

Not coming down on you.
 
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swampfoxfan said:
I think more of Morgan than I do of Tyler or Lewis
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I love Redmond and Lewis
2 medium ranked 3 stars. Wouldn’t want them at another school.

But Walton? Yes Morgan can do everything he can and more.

The staff has a board and they followed it.
They missed. But that doesn’t mean they suck.
It happens.
 
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LittleVol said:
I understand that’s confusing to people.

But the fact that they DIDNT makes it a miss.

Georgia obviously thought he was good enough.
And if you watch his film you can see why…

I answered your whole question in every possible way with everything I said.

Not coming down on you.
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If he ends up being a legit CB then at that point it’ll be a misevaluation. If he can only play S, then not a misevaluation.
 
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benholt06 said:
I wouldn’t characterize it that way considering we didn’t really pursue.

I’d be interested to know the reasoning behind why we didn’t. I’m not gonna say I trust WM’s evals over Kirby’s at this time. But we’re recruiting DBs with certain traits and maybe he didn’t fit those. We’ll see what the kid does there.
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Well remember there was a time when people got on Dooley for slow playing Vonn Bell.

That happened.

Heupel is a much better recruiter and on field coach than Dooley could ever dream to be.

That doesn’t mean he or his staff are infallible. You explained as much in that other recruits thread.

Just look a the kids film. Admittedly TODAY is the first day I watched it. Just to see why UGA went after him. And yeah I see why!

If Tennessee went after him but he just wanted to leave, then okay. But to not go after him at all??
Yeah it’s a head scratcher for me. I don’t know their board, but are we THAT DEEP at safety? We have some nice talent there; but I dare say we need the same kind of talent to back it up…
 
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MarcoVol said:
If he ends up being a legit CB then at that point it’ll be a misevaluation. If he can only play S, then not a misevaluation.
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No he’s a safety. He can play CB, but he’s a boss a safety.

Look at his HUDL. Don’t take my word for it.

People need to no panic because our staff misses from time to time. So do other staff.

For example how in the hell is Shelia Mills Knight only being recruited by Tennessee and Ole Miss?
 
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LittleVol said:
No he’s a safety. He can play CB, but he’s a boss a safety.

Look at his HUDL. Don’t take my word for it.

People need to no panic because our staff misses from time to time.

For example who in the hell is Shelia Mills Knight only being recruited by Tennessee and Ole Miss?
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Well the staff wants guys that can play all 5 positions in the secondary. Perhaps they didn’t think he could do so.
 
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LittleVol said:
Well remember there was a time when people got on Dooley for slow playing Vonn Bell.

That happened.

Heupel is a much better recruiter and on field coach than Dooley could ever dream to be.

That doesn’t mean he or his staff are infallible. You explained as much in that other recruits thread.

Just look a the kids film. Admittedly TODAY is the first day I watched it. Just to see why UGA went after him. And yeah I see why!

If Tennessee went after him but he just wanted to leave, then okay. But to not go after him at all??
Yeah it’s a head scratcher for me. I don’t know their board, but are we THAT DEEP at safety? We have some nice talent there; but I dare say we need the same kind of talent to back it up…
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I get what you’re saying. I agree that it’s noteworthy Kirby took a guy out of our backyard who we didn’t pursue.

Could’ve been any number of reasons why, we don’t know.

Doesn’t make sense to call it a miss tho unless he turns into an impact player for them who is clearly better than the guy we have in that position at that time.
 
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swampfoxfan said:
I think more of Morgan than I do of Tyler or Lewis
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Banks and Martinez don’t agree. Both those Georgia kids are physical (assuming you’re talking about Redmon and Lewis). They play at a higher level of competition. That said no disrespect to Morgan, georgia is a great place to land to be developed as a DB.
 
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MarcoVol said:
Well the staff wants guys that can play all 5 positions in the secondary. Perhaps they didn’t think he could do so.
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No the way GA does it is the same way Saban did it.. they recruit to make the backfield able to play any position.. of course they have body types (as do we) but they recruit the same way.
 
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Also like to say this… obviously not a Martinez fan but I don’t understand the recruiting ideas… generally if you are getting lighter in your LB’s you want a little heavier SS or a Star that equalize that out and not just get lighter everywhere… maybe it will work out but it just seems like any team could run all over us.
 
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Deathandtaxes said:
Also like to say this… obviously not a Martinez fan but I don’t understand the recruiting ideas… generally if you are getting lighter in your LB’s you want a little heavier SS or a Star that equalize that out and not just get lighter everywhere… maybe it will work out but it just seems like any team could run all over us.
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We’ve been top 25 in run defense nationally two years straight…
 
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DaddyChad said:
Banks and Martinez don’t agree. Both those Georgia kids are physical (assuming you’re talking about Redmon and Lewis). They play at a higher level of competition. That said no disrespect to Morgan, georgia is a great place to land to be developed as a DB.
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No they don't agree and they get paid to recruit who they want, I don't. But as a safety, I like Morgan better, that's all. We will know who has the best career in 3 years
 
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swampfoxfan said:
No they don't agree and they get paid to recruit who they want, I don't. But as a safety, I like Morgan better, that's all. We will know who has the best career in 3 years
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So you like a Safety prospect as a Safety better than you like two CB prospects as Safeties?
 
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jvols1999 said:
That's the one position where WM's evals - especially in the states of GA and TN - have been way different than each other. I'd be tempted to say I would trust Kirby but a) He has had a lot of turnover at the DB coach position, and b) he hasn't exactly beaten out bigtime programs for a lot of these TN DBs
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Let's be honest: If he hadn't committed to UGA, no one would care that we didn't pursue him.
 
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