'25 TN QB George MacIntyre (Tennessee commit)

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#676
VolBalla2014 said:
Chandaveon Bradley, Johnathan Echols, and Daevin Hobbs were all 5 stars. In each case they were dropped to a 4 star within a month of committing to UT. It's a thing
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By the time Bradley committed, he had already been dropped to a 4* in the composite.

Hobbs ranking improved from 217 overall to 56 overall in the composite from April ‘22 to Jan ‘23. He committed to UT Nov ‘22.

It’s not a thing.
 
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VolBalla2014 said:
Chandaveon Bradley, Johnathan Echols, and Daevin Hobbs were all 5 stars. In each case they were dropped to a 4 star within a month of committing to UT. It's a thing
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Thanks for supplying the facts to support my observations about these rankings TRENDS.
 
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Preyed_On said:
Every single fanbase says this crap and all of you look like whiny children who are desperate for validation. No one is victimizing you for being a TN fan. It’s all in your smooth little brain, pal. But if it makes you feel better to moan about how “everybody hates Tennessee” them go ahead. It’s just so ironic that TN is the ONLY school that “everyone hates”. Like you actually wanna believe that the Vols are the only school receiving special “discrimination” and everyone else gets treated equally.

It’s all BS that grown men use to cope with their own disappointment when a kid goes from 93 to 91, like it even matters.

I have half this board on ignore and you still see cringe shite like this in every single recruit thread.
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"The services are political and don't rate players legitiately."

Also:

"Oh no! Our class didn't rate as well as others!"
 
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SmokeMSJ said:
Byron Young 3 Star
Jaylen Wright 3 Star (rated 38th best RB in class)
Squirrel White 3 Star (ranked 84th best WR)
Dylan Sampson 3 Star (ranked as 36th best RB)

Those rankings don’t mean sh*t.
The idea that 24/7 thinks there are 137 players better than Kaleb Beasley is fu*king laughable.
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The rankings are quite good, in the aggregate.

There are plenty of individual examples of players being mis-rated, though.

Teams that stack highly rated classes outperform on average teams that stack lower rated classes.
 
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Brentwood Academy (1-2) earned its first win of the season in major fashion at home on Friday night, taking care of Christian Brothers (2-1) in dominant fashion.

Four-star quarterback George MacIntyre threw for three touchdowns and ran for one more, while adding two-point conversions on the ground and through the air.
 
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SmokeMSJ said:
Byron Young 3 Star
Jaylen Wright 3 Star (rated 38th best RB in class)
Squirrel White 3 Star (ranked 84th best WR)
Dylan Sampson 3 Star (ranked as 36th best RB)

Those rankings don’t mean sh*t.
The idea that 24/7 thinks there are 137 players better than Kaleb Beasley is fu*king laughable.
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And Squirrel & Dylan were both Industry 4 Stars. ESPN (lol) tanked their rankings too.
Jaylen was an on3 4 Star and Top300 player.

You’re tilting at windmills.

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MarcoVol said:
By the time Bradley committed, he had already been dropped to a 4* in the composite.

Hobbs ranking improved from 217 overall to 56 overall in the composite from April ‘22 to Jan ‘23. He committed to UT Nov ‘22.

It’s not a thing.
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Well I'm sorry for not remembering the facts perfectly. Tennessee football made me an alcoholic. But in response, I gotta ask you, do you truly not remember instances where a players ranking dropped either after committing to UT or leading up to it when everyone knew they were coming here (for instance Bradley)? I've been following Tennessee recruiting fairly closely for a decade and it seems to be an annual occurrence. Btw I did notice u neglected to speak on Echols. Maybe I'm wrong but I am so confident that he was a 5 star before committing to UT
 
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MarcoVol said:
By the time Bradley committed, he had already been dropped to a 4* in the composite.

Hobbs ranking improved from 217 overall to 56 overall in the composite from April ‘22 to Jan ‘23. He committed to UT Nov ‘22.

It’s not a thing.
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just for the record, I just looked up his data.

ON3 is in fact a 5 star.... HOWEVER 247, AND Rivals AND ESPN were all 4 stars. I guess you can shade this argument anyway you want.

Won't know the right answer for a while yet.
 
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VolBalla2014 said:
Well I'm sorry for not remembering the facts perfectly. Tennessee football made me an alcoholic. But in response, I gotta ask you, do you truly not remember instances where a players ranking dropped either after committing to UT or leading up to it when everyone knew they were coming here (for instance Bradley)? I've been following Tennessee recruiting fairly closely for a decade and it seems to be an annual occurrence. Btw I did notice u neglected to speak on Echols. Maybe I'm wrong but I am so confident that he was a 5 star before committing to UT
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Yeah there are tons of examples of players rankings dropping after being committed to UT and that includes Echols.

But there are also tons of examples of rankings getting better after committing to UT.

Every fanbase says the same thing about their recruit rankings.
 
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VolBalla2014 said:
Well I'm sorry for not remembering the facts perfectly. Tennessee football made me an alcoholic. But in response, I gotta ask you, do you truly not remember instances where a players ranking dropped either after committing to UT or leading up to it when everyone knew they were coming here (for instance Bradley)? I've been following Tennessee recruiting fairly closely for a decade and it seems to be an annual occurrence. Btw I did notice u neglected to speak on Echols. Maybe I'm wrong but I am so confident that he was a 5 star before committing to UT
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Echols isn't the greatest example for your point, which isn't entirely invalid, though perhaps equal parts coincidental and intentional as it relates to recruiting services jockeying players around their rankings.

Echols committed to Tennessee around the 4th of July before his junior year. That gave the services a lot of time to evaluate a ton of other players that hadn't been scouted, that grew, that improved, etc, an opportunity to pass him in the rankings. Additionally, he switched positions. His 5-star ranking was originally based on his film and belief that he'd be a DL. He instead wanted to play TE in college, so it required a different evaluation and his stock was affected.
 
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SmokeMSJ said:
Byron Young 3 Star
Jaylen Wright 3 Star (rated 38th best RB in class)
Squirrel White 3 Star (ranked 84th best WR)
Dylan Sampson 3 Star (ranked as 36th best RB)

Those rankings don’t mean sh*t.
The idea that 24/7 thinks there are 137 players better than Kaleb Beasley is fu*king laughable.
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Rankings matter. Blue chip ratio matters
 
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Tennessee head coach, Josh Heupel and defensive backs coach Willie Martinez will be in Chattanooga tonight to see the Baylor and Lipscomb football game. The news of Deuce Knight’s transfer out of Lipscomb was a surprise to some but the staff wasn’t going there to watch him specifically like they did George MacIntyre last week. MacIntyre remains the top quarterback on the board in the 2025 class in our opinion.
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-VQ
 
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85SugarVol said:
The rankings are quite good, in the aggregate.

There are plenty of individual examples of players being mis-rated, though.

Teams that stack highly rated classes outperform on average teams that stack lower rated classes.
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It's really that simple.

I've always argued a monkey could do something quite similar by following offers. It's not rocket science. It also is quite accurate, as you said, in the aggregate. And yes it 100% matters 😅
 
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Devo182 said:
It's really that simple.

I've always argued a monkey could do something quite similar by following offers. It's not rocket science. It also is quite accurate, as you said, in the aggregate. And yes it 100% matters 😅
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It’s been proven over and over again with data. Some men you just can’t reach…

The star system is just odds really.
A 5 Star is historically a 50-50 proposition
A 4 Star is 1 in 4

Anyone, individually, can bust. And they do.

But mathematically, you’re better off taking your chances with 4’s & 5’s vs hoping your 3 Stars hit. Math.
 
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