'22 TN QB Ty Simpson (Alabama commit)

[butchna]

6-2 isn't short for a QB anymore. Not sure many would disagree.

Never was.

 

[cncchris33]

Never was.

I don't disagree, but there was a stigma against QBs roughly that height, or less, for a little bit and how they could translate in the NFL. I should have said "not considered short..."

 

[GojiraVol17]

I don't disagree, but there was a stigma against QBs roughly that height, or less, for a little bit and how they could translate in the NFL. I should have said "not considered short..."

I think too many get enamored with the statuesque 6’4”+ guys. It helps to have that height but by no means does it make it a requirement

 

[cncchris33]

I think too many get enamored with the statuesque 6’4”+ guys. It helps to have that height but by no means does it make it a requirement

Agree. There was a time when QBs were thought to have to be ~6-3, or taller, and be able to stay in the pocket and make throws down the field. Guys like Doug Flutie, Mike Vick, etc., were considered anomalies for their lack of size and ability to make things happen outside of the pocket. Even Randall Cunningham, who met the requisite size, stuck out with his ability to be a dual-threat. Guys like Drew Brees and Russell Wilson were later NFL picks because of concerns about their height, and those are pretty recent examples. The NFL is changing and coming around to the idea of athletes, regardless of size, being able to play the position and win witho both their arm and their legs. Kyler Murray, Lamar Jackson, Deshaun Watson, all fit that new model.

 

[butchna]

I don't disagree, but there was a stigma against QBs roughly that height, or less, for a little bit and how they could translate in the NFL. I should have said "not considered short..."

I know. Errybody wanted that 6’5 prototype and would settle for 6’4...until those pygmies outplayed them and locked up the position for 10+ seasons. I remember when 5’7 Joe Morris was a radical second round pick at RB...until he quickly outplayed 6’1 first rounder Butch Woolfolk and became their fixture in the backfield. We like science and numbers until they don’t add up.

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

AP says vols in driver seat but if we lose to arky things could go south

 

[Dudleys87]

Dont put that evil on us now..

 

[SoilVol]

Not sure why Ty's height is being questioned. Salter is shorter than him. If Ty's height is a problem (it's not) then Salter's height is a problem (it's not).

 

[MemphisVol3]

AP says vols in driver seat but if we lose to arky things could go south

Even more reason to get our QB play fixed over this bye week. Since Bailey and Maurer have been getting most of the reps to "catch up", do you think one of them will ready to play/start against Arkansas?

 

[cncchris33]

Not sure why Ty's height is being questioned. Salter is shorter than him. If Ty's height is a problem (it's not) then Salter's height is a problem (it's not).

If you read thru the past two pages, a rather innocuous discussion about whether he may/may not grow another inch turned into a defense discussion about his height. I don't recall anyone questioning his height or ability to play at his current height. He's just fine and his height will not be the thing that makes or breaks him at the next level.

 

[SLICKYINC]

NFL QBs shorter than Simpson:
-Russell Wilson
-Drew Brees
-Kyler Murray
-Tua Tagovailoa
-Baker Mayfield
-Gardner Minshew
-Jalen Hurts
-Tyrod Taylor

The same height (6’2)
-Aaron Rodgers
-Deshaun Watson
-Lamar Jackson
-Dak Prescott
-Jimmy Garappolo
-Mitch Trubisky

If that dude is 6’2, I’m 6’8..

Edit: measured wrong..................................












Was using a yard stick......

 

[jakez4ut]

AP says vols in driver seat but if we lose to arky things could go south

 

[butchna]

If you read thru the past two pages, a rather innocuous discussion about whether he may/may not grow another inch turned into a defense discussion about his height. I don't recall anyone questioning his height or ability to play at his current height. He's just fine and his height will not be the thing that makes or breaks him at the next level.

Stereotypes about physical attributes of players is relevant. Net result...it doesn’t matter. I remember us doing that kind of stuff on here.

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

Now let’s shift gears to Ty Simpson. The Vols need to win and perform better on offense but they are in a very good spot. It wouldn’t surprise to see him in Knoxville for the final two home games in November and December. Simpson is very comfortable in Knoxville.

hubbs

 

[Blake25p]

hubbs

Just win the games we’re suppose to the rest of the way (Arkansas and Vandy) beating Auburn would help also.

 

[volfaninpa]

It sounds like if they finish at .500 or above that this kid could commit early and be a leader in the 2022 class.

 

[Smokeytom]

Sounds like the offense needs to show a pulse more than anything. Not likely to happen. If JG leads the offense to more than 40pts this year then I will eat a shoe.

 

[reVOLution33]

hubbs

This my be the homer in me but AP on the mailbag podcast was talking about Salter and and the QB position in 2021. He then went on to mention Ty and then said something about maybe landing another high profile QB in the 2021 class and then said or transfer QB.

I know there was talk about the potential for Ty to reclassify and it almost seemed as if AP nearly slipped up in the podcast because then Rob chimes in with something like, you mean a high profile transfer?



Thinking too much into it maybe.....

 

[GojiraVol17]

This my be the homer in me but AP on the mailbag podcast was talking about Salter and and the QB position in 2021. He then went on to mention Ty and then said something about maybe landing another high profile QB in the 2021 class and then said or transfer QB.

I know there was talk about the potential for Ty to reclassify and it almost seemed as if AP nearly slipped up in the podcast because then Rob chimes in with something like, you mean a high profile transfer?



Thinking too much into it maybe.....

Late night posting will cause you to think too much into it

 

[UTK]

Ty Simpson is simply just a must get. That's over said a ton but this one case you can't screw it up. Probably the best QB to ever come out of the state of TN, you stopped trying to get JT Daniels to to satisfy him, it would be a pretty big L if he goes to Clemson. Think we are still the favorite, gotta show some promise the second half of the season.

 

[MarcoVol]

Ty Simpson is simply just a must get. That's over said a ton but this one case you can't screw it up. Probably the best QB to ever come out of the state of TN, you stopped trying to get JT Daniels to to satisfy him, it would be a pretty big L if he goes to Clemson. Think we are still the favorite, gotta show some promise the second half of the season.

I know there was talk that he would look at depth charts but Clemson brought in a true FR who was the #2 QB in the class (#1 pro-style) and overall #10 player in the country yet he was worried about a transfer coming off a serious injury that had less eligibility left?

That math don’t check out.

But also was it stated somewhere we stopped pursuing JT Daniels to appease Ty? It doesn’t make much sense to stop pursuing a transfer to appease a recruit who MIGHT come to your school.

 

[UTK]

I know there was talk that he would look at depth charts but Clemson brought in a true FR who was the #2 QB in the class (#1 pro-style) and overall #10 player in the country yet he was worried about a transfer coming off a serious injury that had less eligibility left?

That math don’t check out.

But also was it stated somewhere we stopped pursuing JT Daniels to appease Ty? It doesn’t make much sense to stop pursuing a transfer to appease a recruit who MIGHT come to your school.

There was some kind of interview that basically implied it. You can find the details back in this thread somewhere. And I've heard multiple people seem to confirm it

 

[cncchris33]

There was some kind of interview that basically implied it. You can find the details back in this thread somewhere. And I've heard multiple people seem to confirm it

If that is true, it's some weak-minded bologna. This staff isn't in a position to turn down talent in the present for a shot of potential talent in the future, especially when that future talent is now possibly concerned with our present offense. It can't be both ways. The idea that Simpson was the motivating factor behind us pulling out of the Daniel's pursuit and the previously implied idea that he (Simpson) wants to be the only QB in his class at the school he chooses tells me he is scared to compete for the job.

I really hope neither of those stories are true.

 

[JRVOL11]

Literally can’t miss on Ty Simpson. Would be such an L

 

[MarcoVol]

There was some kind of interview that basically implied it. You can find the details back in this thread somewhere. And I've heard multiple people seem to confirm it

So confirmed by anonymous posters on a message board?

And again he supposedly wanted us to stop pursuing a transfer but didn’t make Clemson come off their pursuit of the #1 pro-style QB in the 2020 class?

Me thinks you’ve been misled.