'22 TN QB Ty Simpson (Alabama commit)

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MarcoVol said:
Even Pruitt knows that he has to win next season or he’s gone. Attendance will have nothing to do with it. And if we win, more fans will show up anyway.

I’m just saying there’s not much we can do about the situation. Next year is scorching hot seat tile for Pruitt no matter what.
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You’re probably right.

Still think it’s a huge mistake considering a lot of good coaches won’t be available next year.

Freeze is going to get a big job after this year.

We can’t afford to wait around.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
You’re probably right.

Still think it’s a huge mistake considering a lot of good coaches won’t be available next year.

Freeze is going to get a big job after this year.

We can’t afford to wait around.
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Agreed. I just don’t see it happening
 
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Ron Swanson said:
No, I can’t. But WE can. And I can change how closely I follow this program until a change is made. If he’s not fired this month I’m seriously out. I’m going to become one of those “fans” that maybe watches the games if they fit it into their schedule. But doesn’t follow the program closely so I’ll know nothing about the players, coaches names, how recruiting is going, etc. A casual fan that has better things to do. Honestly, it’s probably for the best, I’m a busy family man anyway.
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Ron Swanson said:
No, I can’t. But WE can. And I can change how closely I follow this program until a change is made. If he’s not fired this month I’m seriously out. I’m going to become one of those “fans” that maybe watches the games if they fit it into their schedule. But doesn’t follow the program closely so I’ll know nothing about the players, coaches names, how recruiting is going, etc. A casual fan that has better things to do. Honestly, it’s probably for the best, I’m a busy family man anyway.
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Right when program needs support the most. We gotta support the programs financially. You wanna make a statement, email Boydo & Fulmer.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
They’re practically robbing us of our money and time.

We’re not the bad guys in this fight.
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are we the good guys if we stomp our feet for not getting our way? which btw, we literally have no power to affect change.

we can kick cry and scream all day but, at end of the day only power brokers get er done.
 
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jackcrevol said:
are we the good guys if we stomp our feet for not getting our way? which btw, we literally have no power to affect change.

we can kick cry and scream all day but, at end of the day only power brokers get er done.
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We’re the good guys because we actually care about winning.

The administration is only worried about the money in their own pockets rather than trying to do the right thing for the program.

Until they start caring, we shouldn’t give them a dime.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
We’re the good guys because we actually care about winning.

The administration is only worried about the money in their own pockets rather than trying to do the right thing for the program.

Until they start caring, we shouldn’t give them a dime.
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The administration cares about winning because THAT'S WHAT MAKES THEM MONEY.
 
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Ron Swanson said:
No, I can’t. But WE can. And I can change how closely I follow this program until a change is made. If he’s not fired this month I’m seriously out. I’m going to become one of those “fans” that maybe watches the games if they fit it into their schedule. But doesn’t follow the program closely so I’ll know nothing about the players, coaches names, how recruiting is going, etc. A casual fan that has better things to do. Honestly, it’s probably for the best, I’m a busy family man anyway.
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100%

But then I remember I need something to do at work so I’ll be here
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
Our record says otherwise.

They’ll keep getting their fair share whether we’re winning 12 games or 2 games.
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Stupid analysis. Our record of proof that administration doesn't want to win? So if every adminstration really wanted to win every program would have a great record? Somebody has to lose. That is not always dictated by the mentality of the people in charge. It is also dictated by the skill and ability level of the players and coaches. We have made terrible hires. That does not equate automatically to: they don't want to win.
 
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therickbol said:
Stupid analysis. Our record of proof that administration doesn't want to win? So if every adminstration really wanted to win every program would have a great record? Somebody has to lose. That is not always dictated by the mentality of the people in charge. It is also dictated by the skill and ability level of the players and coaches. We have made terrible hires. That does not equate automatically to: they don't want to win.
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It's an asinine argument, if you thinking about it for more than 5 seconds.
 
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therickbol said:
Stupid analysis. Our record of proof that administration doesn't want to win? So if every adminstration really wanted to win every program would have a great record? Somebody has to lose. That is not always dictated by the mentality of the people in charge. It is also dictated by the skill and ability level of the players and coaches. We have made terrible hires. That does not equate automatically to: they don't want to win.
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If you were talking about a small school in a weak conference then your analysis would be correct. But thats not the case. This is TN. A big time school in a big time conference. Its completely valid to say the administration at TN doesnt want to win. And there is proof.

2008 the move is made to run Fulmer out of town. You can agree or disagree that it was time, but thats not the point. Now understand at that time we were still very relevant on the national scene. We won the East the previous year. So the search for a HC began. Now we know that Gary Patterson was ready to take the job at TN. A proven winner and a good hC. Yet what happened? Lane Kiffin. A guy who had never coached in college football before and bombed in the NFL was hired. Now if the administration really cared about winning, they would have done what was necessary to hire Patterson.

Next up was ol Doofus. After Kiffin bolts in the middle of the night like a scared kid, the administration freaked out and hired a proven loser. Now, Kiffin went 7-6. While not good, not really terrible either. Our teams were competitive. So it stands to reason that we were still relatively relevant going into 2010. Yet instead of doing what an administration concerned with winning would do, TN did the opposite. Then we start spiraling down.

Now to Botch Jones. At this point, the administration couldnt really be blamed for hiring Botch. After all, he was a winner at Central Michigan and Cincy. And to be fair, we had fallen way out of relevancy. But still, its hard to imagine that with our reputation and resources that we couldnt have gotten someone better. Botch was hired on the cheap just like Pruitt. And we see the results. The bottom line is if the TN adminstration truly wanted to have a winning football program, we would. Its that simple. Talk about money? TN still makes a bunch of money. But what we do make would pale in comparison to what we would make if the football program was balling at an elite level.

So no the TN administration does not want to win. The coaching hires since Fulmer reiterate and reinforce that statement.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
If you were talking about a small school in a weak conference then your analysis would be correct. But thats not the case. This is TN. A big time school in a big time conference. Its completely valid to say the administration at TN doesnt want to win. And there is proof.

2008 the move is made to run Fulmer out of town. You can agree or disagree that it was time, but thats not the point. Now understand at that time we were still very relevant on the national scene. We won the East the previous year. So the search for a HC began. Now we know that Gary Patterson was ready to take the job at TN. A proven winner and a good hC. Yet what happened? Lane Kiffin. A guy who had never coached in college football before and bombed in the NFL was hired. Now if the administration really cared about winning, they would have done what was necessary to hire Patterson.

Next up was ol Doofus. After Kiffin bolts in the middle of the night like a scared kid, the administration freaked out and hired a proven loser. Now, Kiffin went 7-6. While not good, not really terrible either. Our teams were competitive. So it stands to reason that we were still relatively relevant going into 2010. Yet instead of doing what an administration concerned with winning would do, TN did the opposite. Then we start spiraling down.

Now to Botch Jones. At this point, the administration couldnt really be blamed for hiring Botch. After all, he was a winner at Central Michigan and Cincy. And to be fair, we had fallen way out of relevancy. But still, its hard to imagine that with our reputation and resources that we couldnt have gotten someone better. Botch was hired on the cheap just like Pruitt. And we see the results. The bottom line is if the TN adminstration truly wanted to have a winning football program, we would. Its that simple. Talk about money? TN still makes a bunch of money. But what we do make would pale in comparison to what we would make if the football program was balling at an elite level.

So no the TN administration does not want to win. The coaching hires since Fulmer reiterate and reinforce that statement.
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they want to win man, but, have other priorities. they want to win, on a budget.
 
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