‘23 TN RB DeSean Bishop (Tennessee commit)

[Rememberthelate90s]

Once again in 21’ 12 games 441 Carries for 37 a game. 37 ain’t 50 or 60 either. They write this stuff down you know.

As a prospect starting last year I started watching his games on Diamond Clear. This years games are still out there for viewing FOR FREE. What I found remarkable was the minimal number of plays ended with significant contact. Running out of bounds, ankle tackles and glancing blows rather than going for the hard yards was common. Not an accident probably. Best comp I can think of was Emmet Smith. A few goal line and short yardage plays ended badly but not a lot.

Guntersville sucks.

 

[LittleVol]

And still an undrafted free agent. Who became a starter in the NFL. MY MIND HAS GONE BLANK ON THE UT DB that did it a few years ago. He's still starting. Butch Jones years...he caught a lot of hell.....shyt! Never mind...Cam Sutton!

I actually liked Foster when he was here. Fumbled too much, but could be electrifying at times too.

Excuse my bouncing here...I'm drinking

No it was Emmanuel Mosley
3 star DB
Scholarship CB out of Dudley HS

 

[Adam Sandler]

Why exactly can we not still find another transfer? He is stopping nothing while getting a chance to prove the low ranking wrong.

We certainly could. I was under the impression we were only trying to add 2 rbs.

 

[Volanooga2521]

There’s no benefit to blueshirting right now. The NCAA suspended the 25 limit for the next two years.

You’re right. I guess blue shirts were a strategy based on the 25 initial counter rule (which was brought about due to Houston Nutt at Ole Miss iirc, due to massive “sign and place” numbers with Mississippi jucos).

 

[VOLnMiami]

So happy we landed this kid...I watched him on the internet for a couple of years now and was hoping he would stay home and play for UT...He's gonna be a game changer you watch!

 

[NighthawkVol]

Believe Tuttle was undrafted too. As was Marquez Calloway. So was Kyle Phillips and he started for a bit for the Jets.

 

[SugarCC]

 

[jasonvol18]

are you describing yourself or nah? of course trust the coaches... the coaches took him.... as a PWO

Well I'm far from overweight so nah..Just saying many on here think since they played HS football 30 yrs ago they know more about the players we need than the Coach's. Nothing could be further from the truth!..An NIL PWO, much different than a regular walk on!

 

[hjeagle1vol]

I've seen him play a lot. Both basketball and football from an upclose perspective. He tends to taunt his opponents, taunt the crowd and even punched someone in the handshake line last year after a game.

Paging CRB

 

[T2P_Priceless]

Simply because of ranking. I think he can be good for us honestly, but as per usual fans are gonna trash him before he gets a chance.

Maybe for some. Others are skeptical because of his offers. It was down to Tennessee vs App St,

 

[GUNTERSVOL]

While researching Bishop I saw incredible numbers by fellow 5A back Dowell from White County. See he is at 170 lbs but any insight on his future. He outgained Bishop by 800 yards, way up the national charts.

No small school offers?

 

[SweetasSoda]

I had forgotten about him. He caught so much shyt on here...then went to the NFL.

Like Alontae Taylor. DB is a hard position to play. You’re going to get beat. Especially if you are on a team that gets PI calls more than others.

 

[Fullfillmer]

First - I have never seen him play. Second - I am sure all will be rooting for him. Third - I don't think it will matter even a little what type of scholarship or non-scholarship he is on, if he can play, he will get to play.
What I do know is he is apparently fast, durable, and has good hands out of the backfield. He might end up playing on defense, specializing on offense or even as a return specialist.
Fourth - if you can gain that many yards at Karns - he likely would have gained 10,000 yards a year somewhere else. Karns is typically way overmatched at most positions and in most games and it is fair to assume that defenses keyed on him.
A three star at Karns might be a high 4 star at Maryville or Alcoa. (pure speculation).
Fifth - as we know Appy State is a giant killer, I am sure at any given time - there are 3 or 4 players playing for them that would start and/or contribute here. Across the landscape of the US - there are tons of players at small schools - portaling their way
onto SEC rosters. I think one played for SC and lit us up when we lost to the lamecocks.

So I am as excited to get him as he appears to be to be coming here.
Great to get a local kid with a love for the Vols.

 

[BucVol98]

Well I'm far from overweight so nah..Just saying many on here think since they played HS football 30 yrs ago they know more about the players we need than the Coach's. Nothing could be further from the truth!..An NIL PWO, much different than a regular walk on!

Please elaborate on what an NIL PWO is? Is it a PWO that can earn NIL deals? I doubt UT is promising PWO a bunch of NIL money but I could be wrong I suppose.

 

[swchandler1988]

Please elaborate on what an NIL PWO is? Is it a PWO that can earn NIL deals? I doubt UT is promising PWO a bunch of NIL money but I could be wrong I suppose.

For instance (the way i understand it). Bishop could advertise for Weigels or Dead End BBQ (or some other local establishment that would make sense for a local kid) and be paid by them. Enough to cover a scholarship. Spyre barters that deal, Bishop gets a full ride but not from the university

 

[swchandler1988]

When Kennedy Chandler was posting about Mt Dew and Lays last year, that’s an NIL deal that he’s getting money from, and not getting the money from UT

 

[swchandler1988]

The Mays brothers made a decent amount off of Krystal for posting and advertising for them. Hooker most recently with Mercedes. Hyatt with Hyatt hotels

 

[butchna]

Is it possible he's a Blueshirt?

Possible…but not necessary. We can go over the 25 number as long as we’re at 85 before the season begins.

 

[BucVol98]

The Mays brothers made a decent amount off of Krystal for posting and advertising for them. Hooker most recently with Mercedes. Hyatt with Hyatt hotels

I understand all that but the original post made it seem like there was a new type of walk-on called an NIL PWO (like we just had NIL money set aside to pay for their school) .

I know the kid is local but I would think he would need to get some quality snaps to have any type of NIL earning potential like Hooker, Hyatt, Chandler, or the Mays bros.

 

[TheMookieMonster]

Well my brother was there 2008-2012

I was a preferred walk-on for the track and field team around that time as well and can confirm I got free swag, weight room access, meal plan, etc. although there is no such thing as a full-ride for track so amenities could be different across sports.

 

[swchandler1988]

I was a preferred walk-on for the track and field team around that time as well and can confirm I got free swag, weight room access, meal plan, etc. although there is no such thing as a full-ride for track so amenities could be different across sports.

What’s your name? I was too

 

[GUNTERSVOL]

I understand all that but the original post made it seem like there was a new type of walk-on called an NIL PWO (like we just had NIL money set aside to pay for their school) .

I know the kid is local but I would think he would need to get some quality snaps to have any type of NIL earning potential like Hooker, Hyatt, Chandler, or the Mays bros.

I was thinking more of Karns centric businesses that would love to gain favor for stepping up. Restaurants, garden centers, etc.

They only have add on top of Hope and Pell type moneys to cover tuition and room stuff.

Out of state guys are totally different equation.

 

[Wolfeman_Vol]

Please elaborate on what an NIL PWO is? Is it a PWO that can earn NIL deals? I doubt UT is promising PWO a bunch of NIL money but I could be wrong I suppose.

UT can't promise *any* player, PWO, scholarship, or otherwise NIL money. They can advise and align, and that is all. NIL as I understand it around UT, is there is a group aligned that sets up deals for our athletes. So yes, PWOs are going to get them as well in all likelihood. Think of it more like a pro athlete doing a subway commercial. Same concept. It isn't school money.

 

[VolInDayton]

Please elaborate on what an NIL PWO is? Is it a PWO that can earn NIL deals? I doubt UT is promising PWO a bunch of NIL money but I could be wrong I suppose.

I think it would be a Booster paying him 20k for autographs/appearances. It doesn't seem like the best way to use money. A scholarship still is valuable, most players aren't bringing in that type of cash from Nails unless they are legit players who have earned it.

 

[Franklin_Vol09]

So NIL is basically being used to increase the number of scholarship players. There are NIL guarantees that will pay for everything the exact way a scholarship does.