Volfan8282
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That wasn't what I said. I just said those teams were coming off poor seasons. Also, I am not sure you can say they are two of the five recruiters in the nation. Have they ever been ranked in the top five recruiters for a single season? They are good recruiters and they know talent but I'm sure their standards were lower coming off 3 and 4 win seasons. It's not often you bring in a truck load of talent after seasons like that. The class Ed O would have been bringing him in consisted of one-5* and two-4*. I am thinking Ed O was settling for what he could and doing his best to find diamonds in the rough. Butch Davis did a little better with six-4* recruits in that class. Like I said, I never said the kid isn't good or that Butch Davis and Ed O can't recruit. I am just saying that offer list wasn't that great. Ed O has never won more than 4 games as a head coach and Butch Davis has only won more than 9 games once. These guys aren't really top notch head coaches in my opinion and the programs recruiting these kid are average at best. Just my opinion.
You lost me right there. If you don't think Ed Orgeron is a top 5 recruiter, then you don't know college football.
"USC's 2002, 2003 and 2004 recruiting classes were ranked among the nation's top 5 (the 2003 and 2004 groups were listed by many as No. 1). He was named the 2004 National Recruiter of the Year by The Sporting News and Rivals.com."
University Southern California Official Athletic Site
Butch Davis was notorious for getting talented players. Some of that was due to being in Miami. But, you can already tell what he's done in Chapel Hill compared to what they were just a few years ago.
End of discussion.