To everyone who thinks Bray is an NFL lock ...

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K-town Vol Fan said:
This. I'm so tired of seeing these morons rip our best players because the defense couldn't stop air. We gave up 41 points to this crappy team. That's not Tyler brays fault. I for one think he will eventually be a pretty good nfl qb and wish him the best
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The last 3 possessions against UGA....interception, Bray fumble, interception.....you're right...he deserves no blame:crazy:
 
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multi-million dollar arm ...50 cent head

another year would do him good but only if he is committed to developement and learn the craft of QB...otherwise I wish him luck in the NFL
 
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Do you think people were trashing him when he was throwing bombs during the NC State game and throwing for the 2nd best season in school history?
 
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Vol4life25 said:
Im done........

I am so sick of people riping Fulmer, our past and current player's, there is no other team in the SEC or country that is worse then Tennessee fans...

I go on Bamas,Georgia,Ole Miss,Miss. State, Arky board and they have nothing but love for there players and coaches.

Heck Even USC boards still support there players and team and COACH..

Im done, I cant be apart of a fanbase like this....

Half of our post are riping players and former coaches....

Im done with this site and 90% of pos fans that post on this site
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You're done? Ok? What type of content did u expect to see when you logged on? There's nothing new happening to discuss so people start threads like this one second guessing things like this. And I totally disagree that our fan base is much different from others. The players that come here and give their all are typically revered here. So much so that we name out children after our former vol heros. But ya...go ahead and pick another team. Bama might be a good fit for u. They have a coach hardly anybody will ever criticize and most of their fans are bandwagoners so it should work out well for u.
 
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Biopsyman said:
Do you think people were trashing him when he was throwing bombs during the NC State game and throwing for the 2nd best season in school history?
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Yes and if he is successful in the NFL and says Tennessee when introduced, these same haters will be saying VFL and kissing his butt with praise.
 
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VKAman said:
It's like people here don't WANT him to be good. I don't get it.
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Please don't get my original post wrong. I will root for Tyler Bray in the NFL ... I root for all the Vols. All I'm trying to say is many people think he is ready to walk into the NFL today and be a success for many years. Those people may be absolutely right and I may be absolutely wrong. I just do not think he is a lock to be a successful NFL quarterback based on what he's done so far. I think he has the god-given natural ability, but I think he is entering the NFL prematurely. He is currently projected as a 2nd, even a 3rd round draft pick. 2nd and 3rd round draft picks get cut every year. I do not consider him an NFL lock.
 
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I think, because our defense was so incredibly bad, that you underrate what Bray did. He did a very good job this year. He put up incredibly gaudy stats. He was just on the field so much thanks to the D.
 
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govolzgo said:
Then lead the team down the field against South Carolina and win the game. Is it the defense's fault he fumbled the game away? I'm not saying he doesn't have a ton of talent ... he does. But it takes more than talent. It takes a leader. It takes someone with the moral fiber to take the podium after a tough loss and answers questions? Was that the defense's fault too? You say someone who lacks these attributes is ready for the NFL, I say they are not. I think history would back me more than it backs you. List for me a single quarterback in the NFL who lost every single big game he played in college.
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This post just proves you don't have a clue what you are talking about. To try and blame Bray for the loss is stupid. He was hit from behind and it's his fault ? List me a NFL or college team that avg. 40 ppg and still had a def that was giving up 45-50 ppg.
 
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VKAman said:
It's like people here don't WANT him to be good. I don't get it.
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Our fans bloooooooooooooooooow. Simple as that. It's embarrassing. I get embarrassed reading these forums sometimes.

Everyone was pretty hard on Arian Foster while he was here, too, especially after that Penn State fumble. What was he, the second all time leading rusher at Tennessee? I forget if that's right, but I know he did something statistically significant.

And now that he's an NFL star, you see everyone shouting about VFLs and Go Vols and what a great representative of the university he is. 3-4 years ago you only would've heard that from a few of us.

I unconditionally root for every former Vol not named Jabari Greer.

And on Tyler, he'll make it in the NFL. Not as a backup either, as a starter. Well, if a good organization drafts him, and not the Chiefs or something. Because he'll have actual good coaching in the NFL. He was pretty solid without it here at Tennessee, but NFL coaches are professionals at developing players. They turn raw talent into success. It's their jobs. Just watch, he'll prove all you fraud Vols fans wrong, and I'm going to love it.
 
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VKAman said:
It's like people here don't WANT him to be good. I don't get it.
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Bray is a good quarterback and I hope all vol's do well in the pro's. But what has he done this year with a good line receivers. Also everthing is moving at least .5 seconds faster. He will get drafted and sit on the bench for two years possible never get a real chance to develope. I think he needs another year.
 
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Like I keep saying crap falls from the top. I would like to see bray under a real coach then we could have a real discussion about brays abilities.

Guys he was coached by one of the worst coaches at UT ever
 
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It's a team effort, really. I can't believe you can put a loss on one player.

"Ohhhh buy Tyler threw an interception late."

Well the damn team shouldn't have let us be down. It's not his fault. To put the whole game on a single play is to discredit the mistakes that were made previously. There are plenty of players in the NFL who played on garbage college teams, but they themselves are good. If you're surrounded by a mediocre team and below mediocre coaching, what do you think is going to happen?
 
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I don't think anyone should hate on any of our former players! I wish every single young kid that puts on the ORANGE nothing but the best! You guys that say your fans should to. You guys bash Bray but I think under the right situation he could shne. You need to realize that he played for dooley and you guys think he was supposed to learn to be a leader under him? Come on really? Maybe he will become a leader when he gets under someone that can show him how!!! He has all the talent in the world and may learn a lot with a good teacher cause he sure hasnt had one yet!!!!
 
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SouthKnoxVOL said:
Pretty tough to strap the team in your back when you have to score 40-50 points a game just to even have a chance to win since your defense thinks they are playing two hand touch instead of tackle football.
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On point, crazy how some don't have the common sense to see this.
 
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govolzgo said:
Please don't get my original post wrong. I will root for Tyler Bray in the NFL ... I root for all the Vols. All I'm trying to say is many people think he is ready to walk into the NFL today and be a success for many years. Those people may be absolutely right and I may be absolutely wrong. I just do not think he is a lock to be a successful NFL quarterback based on what he's done so far. I think he has the god-given natural ability, but I think he is entering the NFL prematurely. He is currently projected as a 2nd, even a 3rd round draft pick. 2nd and 3rd round draft picks get cut every year. I do not consider him an NFL lock.
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Where are all these people you speak of who thinks Bray will walk in the NFL and be success? I have not seen it. I have seen a lot of people say its a mistake for him and it is because he needs to mature.
 
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crusse10 said:
I think, because our defense was so incredibly bad, that you underrate what Bray did. He did a very good job this year. He put up incredibly gaudy stats. He was just on the field so much thanks to the D.
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He did put up gaudy stats, but in every single SEC game except Kentucky, I thought the opposing quarterback outplayed Bray. Forgetting what either defense did, did the opposing qb outplay Bray? Florida - yes. Georgia - yes. Miss St - yes. Bama - yes. South Carolina - yes. Missouri - yes. Vanderbilt - yes.

He put up great stats, but on each given Saturday, the opposing quarterback rose to the occasion and played better head-to-head in all those games. I don't think that is an NFL-ready resume. I think we should have beaten MSU, South Carolina, Missouri, and Vandy. If Tyler Bray outplays the opposing quarterback in each of those games, then despite our defense, we win at least 2 of those games. I do think he has the ability to outplay them all, but that's not what happened? Until he's outplaying inferior competition head-to-head in college, it may be a reach to outplay a pro. Murray is really the only quarterback listed above anywhere near Bray in natural ability, but they all outplayed him.
 
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govolzgo said:
Take away the leadership, and I'll ask you the same question. Name me a single NFL quarterback who lost every single big game they played in college. All I'm saying is he would probably be better suited for the NFL with at least one big win under his belt. I think he has NFL talent, but I don't think he's ready for the NFL right now.
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Bray ain't my boy or anything but I'm not so naive that I think our losing is all his fault. Closing in on a decade of bad football and everyone wants to find someone to blame. Its human nature and understandable. Did bray single handedly win any big games? No. Were there several games we should've been blown out and were only in the game BC of bray and the offense? Absolutely. I don't think he is ready for the NFL either but to say he will never make it is a little extreme.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
This. I'm so tired of seeing these morons rip our best players because the defense couldn't stop air. We gave up 41 points to this crappy team. That's not Tyler brays fault. I for one think he will eventually be a pretty good nfl qb and wish him the best
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STOP, we do not tolerate reasoning here on VN. You are banished sir :whistling:
 
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